Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

2021-10-17 Thread Dan Ritter
JAMES BOSWELL wrote: > if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to > effectively run debian on this laptop? > > Device name LAPTOP-R4DB7V5U > Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.59 GHz > Installed RAM 4.00 GB (3.81 GB usable) > Product ID

Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

2021-10-17 Thread john doe
On 10/17/2021 3:00 PM, JAMES BOSWELL wrote: if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to effectively run debian on this laptop? You are planning on creating a 'multiboot' with Debian and Windows! The best thing that I can suggest is to Google 'multiboot Bullseye

question from total newbie. a little help please

2021-10-17 Thread JAMES BOSWELL
if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to effectively run debian on this laptop? Device name LAPTOP-R4DB7V5U Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.59 GHz Installed RAM 4.00 GB (3.81 GB usable) Device ID CAACC244-37B7-4294-84E4-E73B9C030FDF

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
l support or better > > income myself, I would like to expand on number of things I try. > > > > I am also in interested in humanitarian causes potentially though I > > would not call myself very active or an activist I like reading on > > such issues and discussing. One

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread David Christensen
to help assist people in say getting help with reaching or finding out about public services. But at the moment all these are ideas. Nothing definite yet. I am exploring. I would like to ask for suggestions like a roadmap that may be worthwhile to follow. Thank you in advance for any assistance

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 12:43:57PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > 2.  If you have any expectation of providing any services - even > > something as basic as hosting an email list, you can easily swamp a > > desktop/laptop class machine.  You probably want to look at

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 07:39:28PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 12:43:57PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > 2.  If you have any expectation of providing any services - even > > something as basic as hosting an email list, you can easily swamp a > > desktop/laptop class

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, October 15, 2021 09:50:26 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > john doe wrote: > > On 10/15/2021 1:40 PM, john doe wrote: > > In general, I would not advise to have a web server publically available > > at home. > > I strongly disagree. I agree with Dan (on the strongly disagree). Further, I would

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 12:43:57PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: 2.  If you have any expectation of providing any services - even something as basic as hosting an email list, you can easily swamp a desktop/laptop class machine.  You probably want to look at something Xeon based. I have never,

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 10/15/21, Christian Britz wrote: > > Semih Ozlem wrote: >> How much does it cost to run a server full time, is it cheaper to run >> one yourself or to rent one online? Do you have an estimate? or range? >> (cost could be electricity and internet connection used?) >> > > Assuming that you want

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:33:24 +0300 Semih Ozlem wrote: > I am very much into using linux for academic work, I am willing to > introduce other people to linux and possibly set up a local linux > users group where I live. There may already be a Linux User Group (LUG) near you. If there is one in

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Semih Ozlem wrote: I am thinking of setting up a server, both for local (at home use), (I have already set up say samba server or openssh server) to be used only under one modem. However due to lack of machines dedicated for that purpose the server is not continuing. I would like to make a

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Dan Ritter
john doe wrote: > On 10/15/2021 1:40 PM, john doe wrote: > > I'll add that running a server at home as some security implecation. > The server would need to be properly secured (firewall, hardening of > services...). > > In general, I would not advise to have a web server publically available >

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
tarian causes potentially though I would > not call myself very active or an activist I like reading on such issues > and discussing. One potential possibility is to develop projects in > relation to say immigration crisis to do with syria or any other cause... > even to help assist peop

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread john doe
On 10/15/2021 1:40 PM, john doe wrote: On 10/15/2021 10:30 AM, Christian Britz wrote: Semih Ozlem wrote: How much does it cost to run a server full time, is it cheaper to run one yourself or to rent one online? Do you have an estimate? or range? (cost could be electricity and internet

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread john doe
On 10/15/2021 10:30 AM, Christian Britz wrote: Semih Ozlem wrote: How much does it cost to run a server full time, is it cheaper to run one yourself or to rent one online? Do you have an estimate? or range? (cost could be electricity and internet connection used?) Assuming that you want to

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Christian Britz
Semih Ozlem wrote: How much does it cost to run a server full time, is it cheaper to run one yourself or to rent one online? Do you have an estimate? or range? (cost could be electricity and internet connection used?) Assuming that you want to use your private Internet connection at the

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Jeremy Ardley
e potential financial support or better income myself, I >> would like to expand on number of things I try. >> >> I am also in interested in humanitarian causes potentially though I >> would not call myself very active or an activist I like readin

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Semih Ozlem
ile. I am thinking of > >> starting small scale since I am operating on a really tight budget > >> currently. And should I reach better circumstances whether through > >> finding some potential financial support or better income myself, I > >> would li

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread john doe
to do with syria or any other cause... even to help assist people in say getting help with reaching or finding out about public services. But at the moment all these are ideas. Nothing definite yet. I am exploring. I would like to ask for suggestions like a roadmap that may be worthwhile to follow

Re: general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Jeremy Ardley
with syria or any other cause... even to help assist people in say getting help with reaching or finding out about public services. But at the moment all these are ideas. Nothing definite yet. I am exploring. I would like to ask for suggestions like a roadmap that may be worthwhile to follow

general broad question for help in setting up linux server and suggestions

2021-10-15 Thread Semih Ozlem
causes potentially though I would not call myself very active or an activist I like reading on such issues and discussing. One potential possibility is to develop projects in relation to say immigration crisis to do with syria or any other cause... even to help assist people in say getting help

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-10-12 Thread David Wright
ted it. > > Thank you to every single one of you who spared their time to try and help > > me. > > On one last note, I should I drag attention to what seemed to be a bug on > > the boot screen that asked for my LUKS password: It considered backspaces as > > a normal cha

Re: Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-10-11 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 10/11/21, detr...@tuta.io wrote: > Hello friends, I'm sending this last email to inform you that I have given > up on trying to recover the contents of my external hard drive and that I > formatted it. > Thank you to every single one of you who spared their time to try and help &g

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-10-11 Thread David Wright
On Mon 11 Oct 2021 at 23:25:07 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > David Christensen wrote: > > > When I boot my Debian machines with LUKS encrypted root filesystems, I > > see a bunch of time-stamped bootloader messages followed by the prompt: > > > > Please unlock disk sda3_crypt: > > > > > > When I

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-10-11 Thread deloptes
David Christensen wrote: > When I boot my Debian machines with LUKS encrypted root filesystems, I > see a bunch of time-stamped bootloader messages followed by the prompt: > > Please unlock disk sda3_crypt: > > > When I type on the keyboard, nothing is echoed to the screen. I use plymouth or

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-10-11 Thread David Wright
atted it. > > I hope you have implemented backups procedures, to prevent losing data > in the future. > > > Thank you to every single one of you who spared their time to try and help > > me. A pity that it's reformatted; I would have liked to know more about the circums

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-10-11 Thread David Christensen
. Thank you to every single one of you who spared their time to try and help me. You are welcome. :-) On one last note, I should I drag attention to what seemed to be a bug on the boot screen that asked for my LUKS password: It considered backspaces as a normal character. I type my

Re: Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-10-11 Thread detrito
Hello friends, I'm sending this last email to inform you that I have given up on trying to recover the contents of my external hard drive and that I formatted it. Thank you to every single one of you who spared their time to try and help me. On one last note, I should I drag attention to what

[Solved] (Was: Re: help new install debian via WiFi)

2021-09-14 Thread 황병희
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: > On 13/09/2021 09:45, 황병희 wrote: >> Hellow! Eduardo^^^ >> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: >> >>> Try the installer with non-free firmware, pretty much all Wi-Fi cards >>> require non-free firmware: >>>

Re: help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
e.g. this file: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/bullseye/current/firmware.tar.gz Just unplug and replug the stick and the partition should show up. Hope this help, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 13/09/2021 09:45, 황병희 wrote: Hellow! Eduardo^^^ Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: Try the installer with non-free firmware, pretty much all Wi-Fi cards require non-free firmware: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ Wow you are my hero! How can i

Re: help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread 황병희
Hellow! Eduardo^^^ Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: > Try the installer with non-free firmware, pretty much all Wi-Fi cards > require non-free firmware: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ Wow you are my hero! How can i input the file into *the usb

Re: help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
2021-09-13 17:28 GMT+05:00, 황병희 : > How can i connect WiFi zone (not DHCP) at new install (Debian 11)? Try https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/ It's help me on Lenovo netbook and many HP servers. -- Stanislav

Re: help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 13/09/2021 09:28, 황병희 wrote: and i put mini.iso in usb stick as follow commands: #+begin_src: sh $ sudo cp mini.iso /dev/sda1 That should have been /dev/sda, but since you said the installer booted and started, I assume it's just a typo. $ sudo sync #+end_src then i did try to boot

help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread 황병희
hellow i did buy new notebook thinkpad ryzen. and there is samsung galaxy phone (android). this phone is internet router of my home. and i am writing letter another chromebook. this chromebook have debian 11 under chrome os. this debian 11 is easy to connect internet. because chrome os is

Re: Help to let not disappear menu bar on Debian Buster

2021-09-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 12 Sep 2021 12:00:22 +0200 (CEST) fran...@libero.it wrote: > A friend has installed Debian Buster with XFCE on his pc and each > time the menu bar at the bottom center and top disappears. Is there a > way to ensure that it never disappears? > > Since every time I have to go to his house

Re: Help to let not disappear menu bar on Debian Buster

2021-09-12 Thread Dan Ritter
fran...@libero.it wrote: > Hello, > > A friend has installed Debian Buster with XFCE on his pc and each time the > menu bar at the bottom center and top disappears. Is there a way to ensure > that it never disappears? > > Since every time I have to go to his house to restart XFCE. This

Help to let not disappear menu bar on Debian Buster

2021-09-12 Thread frantal
Hello, A friend has installed Debian Buster with XFCE on his pc and each time the menu bar at the bottom center and top disappears. Is there a way to ensure that it never disappears? Since every time I have to go to his house to restart XFCE. Thanks for help Francesco

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-08-29 Thread David Christensen
On 8/28/21 10:09 PM, detr...@tuta.io wrote: ... I have updated the BIOS. 1.  What is the make and model of the external hard drive? It is a 1Tb WD Elements WDBUZG0010BBK 2. What ISO image did you use to install Debian onto the external hard drive? What media did you put the Debian

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-08-29 Thread Marco Möller
On 29.08.21 07:09, detr...@tuta.io wrote: (...) Before: NAME FSTYPE FSVER LABEL UUID FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS sda ├─sda1 │    vfat   FAT32   A2BD-D233  70,8M    26% /boot/efi ├─sda2 │ ├─sda3 │    ntfs  

Re: Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-08-28 Thread detrito
ell why it doesn't work without logs I'm sorry; this is my first time asking for help on a mailing list and I'm a newbie in GNU+Linux too, please don't take offense on what I might say and forgive me for my ignorance. Answer to David >1.  What is the make and model of the external hard drive?

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-08-27 Thread Jochen Spieker
eave something out because you feared somebody could find that piece of paper? > Please help. I have many important documents and pictures inside that > drive. Please use your current fear as impetus for setting up a proper backup solution. Hardware dies, software is buggy, humans make mista

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-08-27 Thread David
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 at 11:54, wrote: > > Good evening, > > I'm having some worrying problems with LUKS my Debian 10 installation on an > external hard drive. As I'm not very technical, I'll try to explain what I > did and what is happening now in chronological order. > > Around May I installed

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-08-26 Thread David Christensen
eting like that). Please help. I have many important documents and pictures inside that drive. Sorry for my badEnglish. Please tell us: 1. What is the make and model of the external hard drive? 2. What ISO image did you use to install Debian onto the external hard drive? What media did you put

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-08-26 Thread piorunz
Sorry about no quotes in my previous message. I don't know where did they went? ;)

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-08-26 Thread piorunz
can't tell why it doesn't work without logs Every time I type in my password it says it's wrong ("Bad password or options" or someting like that). That's not much of a help to be honest :) Please try to gather logs and come back to us. -- With kindest regards, piorunz. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒

Re: LUKS encryption help

2021-08-25 Thread David Wright
ly but it also didn't work, and I have also tried to boot in > Recovery Mode but to no avail. Every time I type in my password it says it's > wrong ("Bad password or options" or someting like that). > > Please help. I have many important documents and pictures i

LUKS encryption help

2021-08-25 Thread detrito
it inside my OS (Manjaro) instead of booting it directly but it also didn't work, and I have also tried to boot in Recovery Mode but to no avail. Every time I type in my password it says it's wrong ("Bad password or options" or someting like that). Please help. I have many important

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-08-12 Thread Robbi Nespu
The data also on salsa now https://salsa.debian.org/linuxhw/TestCoverage/-/tree/main/Dist/Debian_11 -- Robbi Nespu D311 B5FF EEE6 0BE8 9C91 FA9E 0C81 FA30 3B3A 80BA https://robbinespu.gitlab.io | https://mstdn.social/@robbinespu

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-08-11 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
> on 24 Jul 2021 16:27:23 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote > >> Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site? > > the package are dump and store at > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/hw-probe by debian package maintainer, > maybe the upstream author (Andrey Ponomarenko) want to centralize >

Thx for help

2021-08-06 Thread Gunnar Gervin
t;Low Linux knowledge=Unusual (here)=Craziness & should be adjusted or told off." Resembles Adolf Hitler's paranoias, or not ? Back to my slanders: I take a break to learn enough to be able to define an IT challenge before I ask for help; at least read a bit to see if I already have the

Re: need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-06 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 04:55:51PM -0400, lou wrote: > tomas, thunderbird is working now Thanks, glad to hear it :) Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-05 Thread lou
tomas, thunderbird is working now

Re: need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-05 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 06:34:18AM -0400, lou wrote: > Thank didier and tomas! i've set up thunderbird > > when i receive mail, thunderbird prompts me for password, i enter > 16-char-long code, password used in their web-based mail isn't used I think I din't understand you: is thunderbird

Re: need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-05 Thread asoeldner
Am 05.08.2021 um 12:34 schrieb lou: Thank didier and tomas! i've set up thunderbird when i receive mail, thunderbird prompts me for password, i enter 16-char-long code, password used in their web-based mail isn't used Take a look in "Settings" and there for Master-Password ..

Re: need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-05 Thread lou
Thank didier and tomas! i've set up thunderbird when i receive mail, thunderbird prompts me for password, i enter 16-char-long code, password used in their web-based mail isn't used

Re: need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-05 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 10:08:55AM +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > > Hello, > > >From memory (so take it with a grain of salt), when Thunderbird asks > for a password to access a mail server for the first time [...] This is more or less my recollection, yes. > I would imagine that is somewhat

Re: need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-05 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, >From memory (so take it with a grain of salt), when Thunderbird asks for a password to access a mail server for the first time, it proposes to store it in order for the user to not have to enter his password each time. But this storage is not mandatory. If the user choses to enter his

Re: need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-05 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 07:38:44AM +0800, loushanguan2...@sina.com wrote: > mail provider gives me 16-character-long authorization code for smtp > server(something like 77c93457b12ab54a)i can't enter it in thunderbird > > in Account Settings/Outgoing Sever dialogPort should be 587which shall

Re: need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-04 Thread Bret Busby
On 5/8/21 7:38 am, loushanguan2...@sina.com wrote: mail provider gives me 16-character-long authorization code for smtp server (something like 77c93457b12ab54a) i can't enter it in thunderbird in Account Settings/Outgoing Sever dialog Port should be 587 which shall i choose for "Connection

need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-04 Thread loushanguan2015
mail provider gives me 16-character-long authorization code for smtp server(something like 77c93457b12ab54a)i can't enter it in thunderbird in Account Settings/Outgoing Sever dialogPort should be 587which shall i choose for "Connection security" and "Authentication method"?

Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-08-04 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 04.08.2021 05:03, Douglas McGarrett wrote: On 7/19/21 1:15 AM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 19.07.2021 05:13, w...@mgssub.com wrote: I installed tbird 78.12.0 (64-bit)  and it can't find my email passwords. I have browsed signons.sqlite  and the passwords seem to be there in the

Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-08-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
All passwords need to be written and secured. First by being part of a book or being in a specific place in a hard copy file. Second, encrypted before written down. For anyone to be able to use any of those passwords even if found they'd have to know the encryption system you used.

Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-08-03 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 4/8/21 10:03, Douglas McGarrett wrote: a Master Password. What is it, and where is it, and should I need it? go: edit|preferences|privacy& Security and on my screen 'Passwords' is close to the bottom before you start scrolling -- All the best Keith Bainbridge

Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-08-03 Thread Douglas McGarrett
On 7/19/21 1:15 AM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 19.07.2021 05:13, w...@mgssub.com wrote: I installed tbird 78.12.0 (64-bit)  and it can't find my email passwords. I have browsed signons.sqlite  and the passwords seem to be there in the middle of the db. I have tried to install a prior

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-29 Thread David Wright
On Thu 29 Jul 2021 at 12:54:14 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > Andrey Ponomarenko writes: > > > LiveCDs for quick testing: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/ > > Well, are these images bootable via Grub directly and if so then what > parameters are needed?

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-29 Thread Anssi Saari
Andrey Ponomarenko writes: > LiveCDs for quick testing: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/ Well, are these images bootable via Grub directly and if so then what parameters are needed? Making testing easy eases testing...

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 7/24/2021 4:14 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello! Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 <https://github.com/linu

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-28 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
; :Hi,what is the last day to take the test?thank you.PaoloOn 28/07/21 21:45, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:27.07.2021, 23:43, "Marco Möller" :On 24.07.21 22:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello!  Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven lis

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-28 Thread paolo gagini
Hi, what is the last day to take the test? thank you. Paolo On 28/07/21 21:45, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: 27.07.2021, 23:43, "Marco Möller" : On 24.07.21 22:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:  Hello!  Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-28 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
27.07.2021, 23:43, "Marco Möller" :On 24.07.21 22:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello!  Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-27 Thread Marco Möller
On 24.07.21 22:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello! Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 <https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCover

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-27 Thread piorunz
On 24/07/2021 21:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello! Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 <https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCover

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 05:18:57PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:53:13 +0200 > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:49:19PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Anyone can "borrow" open source code, regardless of where it's hosted, > > > pretty much by definition.

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-26 Thread Robbi Nespu
on 24 Jul 2021 16:27:23 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site? the package are dump and store at https://salsa.debian.org/debian/hw-probe by debian package maintainer, maybe the upstream author (Andrey Ponomarenko) want to centralize testcoverage

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-26 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 4:23 PM Andrey Ponomarenko < andrewponomare...@yandex.ru> wrote: > Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out > the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: > https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-26 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:53:13 +0200 wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:49:19PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > [...] > > > Anyone can "borrow" open source code, regardless of where it's hosted, > > pretty much by definition. > > License restrictions apply. Of course, but I didn't think that

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-26 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:49:19PM -0400, Celejar wrote: [...] > Anyone can "borrow" open source code, regardless of where it's hosted, > pretty much by definition. License restrictions apply. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-26 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:48:03 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 25 July 2021 15:36:26 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:43:10PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:34:42 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 26 July 2021 02:51:40 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:48:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > Us old jeezers, always so full of history ;-) We lived it. > With a tip o' the hat to Rudyard Kipling [1]. > > But I think that's enough off-topic, so I'll stop

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-26 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:48:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > +100 Tomas, as it gives them free access to "borrow" some of the best > code out there. So the comparison to the underhanded compuserve and > apple (remember gif and firewire?) as a future dagger in our back is > very real.

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 25 July 2021 15:36:26 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:43:10PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:34:42 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-25 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 09:21:18PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 21:36:26 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > It is subtle, and you might disagree. > > My disagreement is based on my pragmetic attitude. Nobody is out to > get us. Assume the best. A good Debian attitude, IMHO.

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-25 Thread Brian
On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 21:36:26 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:43:10PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:34:42 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > > > > Why isn't this on Salsa

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-25 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 03:58:13PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, [...] > In the next ten years, people will be coding less and less as we do it. > We'll drive some AI process for coding. For now, it's web frameworks :-/ > If you speak French, I'd suggest this video. I'll

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-25 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-07-25 3:36 p.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Of course, github succeeded in one thing: they managed to centralise > git, which is inherently decentral. Many people these days see github > as a synonym to git and can't bother to use git without github's > shiny web interface. > They

[OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-25 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:43:10PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:34:42 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > > Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site? > > > > ...you're right. I won't touch

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-25 Thread Brian
On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:34:42 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site? > > ...you're right. I won't touch github unless I'm forced to :-( I went to

Hardware life expectancy (was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware)

2021-07-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Should I participate if my laptop is 10 years old? I fondly remember showing my 2003 Thinkpad X30 to my students when it turned 10 years old. Given that I grew up in the glory days of Dennard scaling, the standard rule of thumb was that you wanted a new machine every 3 years or so and a

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-25 Thread Nate Bargmann
I've been running Bullseye on a Lenovo T410 (2522-WUZ) for the past 18 months. I also updated my tower, Lenovo M73 (MJ00D7ZZ) earlier this year. It is working quite well. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-25 Thread Erwan David
Le 25/07/2021 à 14:33, Andrey Ponomarenko a écrit : > - все >   > 25.07.2021, 14:30, "kaye n" : > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:23 AM Andrey Ponomarenko > wrote: > > Hello! > > Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 1

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:30:22 +0800 kaye n wrote: > Should I participate if my laptop is 10 years old? Yes, please. Many folks use Debian to extend the lives of machines that other OSes no longer support. I have some 2007 machines I've been testing. -- Does anybody read signatures any more?

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-25 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
- все 25.07.2021, 14:30, "kaye n" :On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:23 AM Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:Hello!Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-25 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
LiveCDs for quick testing: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/ Although full-fledged installations are more desirable. 24.07.2021, 23:23, "Andrey Ponomarenko" :Hello!Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the commun

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-25 Thread kaye n
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:23 AM Andrey Ponomarenko < andrewponomare...@yandex.ru> wrote: > Hello! > > Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out > the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: > https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCove

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-25 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sat, 2021-07-24 at 23:14 +0300, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling > > out the community-driven list of tested hardware c

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-24 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 4:23 PM Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: > > Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the > community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: > https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 > Wow! This

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-24 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 7/25/21 1:33 AM, Mark Allums wrote: > > > On 7/24/2021 3:14 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: >> Hello! >> >> Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling >> out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: >> https

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-24 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 7/24/21 2:54 PM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: On 7/24/21 11:14 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello! Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist

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