Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-04-05 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:22:55 +0200 Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2007-03-23 09:38:31, schrieb Celejar: > > >I do not like some of the design choices which were made with > > > fetchmail. > > >getmail does things a little differently, and for my purposes, better. > > > I

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-04-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-27 07:26:20, schrieb Owen Heisler: > On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 11:06 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Paul Stolp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Perhaps I'm missing the point ... can spam and viruses > > > be rejected at SMTP time with fetchmail? > > SMTP? fetchmail is usi

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-04-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-23 09:38:31, schrieb Celejar: > >I do not like some of the design choices which were made with fetchmail. > >getmail does things a little differently, and for my purposes, better. In > >addition, most people find getmail easier to configure and use than > >fetchmail. Perh

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-04-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-24 10:46:15, schrieb Paul E Condon: > I've been following this thread precisely because I don't know how to > gain control over the email aspects of my Etch system. > > Prior posts in this thread, indicated that getmail could be used as a > replacement for fetchmail. But, I have come t

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-04-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-23 10:07:34, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> * delete_after (integer) -- if set, getmail will delete messages > >>this number of days after first seeing them, if they have been > >>retrieved and delivered. This, in effect, leaves messages on > >>the server fo

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-04-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-22 11:42:54, schrieb Greg Folkert: > Sorry, but running fetchmail as a daemon is the worst possible way to > run fetchmail. > > Run it as a cronjob as a job as your user. It will work. You just need > to setup your .fetchmailrc properly. And if you have more then one user, your system

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:14:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 19:56 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 03/29/07 19:12, cga2000 wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:59:48AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > > [snip] > > >> Maybe, but I doubt it. Usually ISPs just block 80, 25 & 20/

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:25 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Greg Folkert writes: > > I can't imagine why they would scan 138 and 139... > > Netbios. Whoops, I fergetted the sarcasm sign. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Greg Folkert writes: > I can't imagine why they would scan 138 and 139... Netbios. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 19:56 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/29/07 19:12, cga2000 wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:59:48AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] > >> Maybe, but I doubt it. Usually ISPs just block 80, 25 & 20/21. > > > > IOW, they have no clue what's really going on .. :-) > > I

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:56:06 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/29/07 19:12, cga2000 wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:59:48AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] > >> Maybe, but I doubt it. Usually ISPs just block 80, 25 & 2

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 19:12, cga2000 wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:59:48AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] >> Maybe, but I doubt it. Usually ISPs just block 80, 25 & 20/21. > > IOW, they have no clue what's really going on .. :-) I'm sure they have many

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread cga2000
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:59:48AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/28/07 19:18, cga2000 wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 12:05:58PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > [..] > > > >>> So the first thing he needs is a friendly ISP. I don't think >

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/28/07 19:18, cga2000 wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 12:05:58PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > > [..] > >>> So the first thing he needs is a friendly ISP. I don't think >>> cablevision would let me run a server. >> Would they even know if he's run

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-28 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 12:05:58PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: [..] > > So the first thing he needs is a friendly ISP. I don't think > > cablevision would let me run a server. > > Would they even know if he's running imap-ssl? Especially if it's > on a non-standard port? With millions of subscrib

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/28/07 10:06, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>> What I don't think is optimal is to redirect *all* your mails > >>> through an MTA like exim/postfix/... just

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/28/07 10:06, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> What I don't think is optimal is to redirect *all* your mails >>> through an MTA like exim/postfix/... just to do some filtering. >>> Getmail can do this on its ow

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I don't think is optimal is to redirect *all* your mails > > through an MTA like exim/postfix/... just to do some filtering. > > Getmail can do this on its own just fine (well not the actual > > filtering, but then neither does exim/postfix), no need

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-27 Thread Paul Stolp
* Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-27 18:45]: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:28:47PM -0500, Paul Stolp wrote: > > [options] > > verbose=1 > unnecessary, default *is* 1 > > > readall=1 > > That should be read_all and the default *is* true > Thanks, I'll try removing these lines. > >

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/27/07 18:08, Andrei Popescu wrote: [snip] > What I don't think is optimal is to redirect *all* your mails through an > MTA like exim/postfix/... just to do some filtering. Getmail can do > this on its own just fine (well not the actual filtering,

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:28:47PM -0500, Paul Stolp wrote: > [options] > verbose=1 unnecessary, default *is* 1 > readall=1 That should be read_all and the default *is* true > delete=1 > message_log=~/.getmail/getmail.log > [retriever] > type=SimplePOP3Retriever > server=.xxx > username=

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-27 Thread Owen Heisler
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 02:08 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The point you've been trying to make all through this thread is I > > think starting to become clear to me (everyone cheer now), because I > > didn't realize think about mail being scanned for spa

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The point you've been trying to make all through this thread is I > think starting to become clear to me (everyone cheer now), because I > didn't realize think about mail being scanned for spam before a full > message is received. Is it true that in the c

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-27 Thread Owen Heisler
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 18:15 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 11:06 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > Paul Stolp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I would think that this would then use exim's spam and > > > > virus checking (I actual

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2007-03-26 17:49:38 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > Also, I was unconvinced by the reasoning of several posters that > they use fetchmail and have never been bothered by losing email: If > I were losing email, how would I know? [...] If you don't receive anything, this may be an indication. FYI,

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-27 Thread Wayne Topa
Benedict Verheyen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Andrei Popescu schreef: > > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> 1.) What is 'reinjection in a mail queue'? Where can I learn how this > >> differs from whatever is being done by fetchmail as an example case? > >> Or do

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 11:06 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Paul Stolp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would think that this would then use exim's spam and > > > virus checking (I actually don't have that going > > > through exim.) > > > > > > Perhaps

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-27 Thread Owen Heisler
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 11:06 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Paul Stolp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would think that this would then use exim's spam and > > virus checking (I actually don't have that going > > through exim.) > > > > Perhaps I'm missing the point ... can spam and viruses > > be

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
Paul Stolp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would think that this would then use exim's spam and > virus checking (I actually don't have that going > through exim.) > > Perhaps I'm missing the point ... can spam and viruses > be rejected at SMTP time with fetchmail? SMTP? fetchmail is using POP3 t

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 10:54:11AM +0200, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > Andrei Popescu schreef: > > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> 1.) What is 'reinjection in a mail queue'? Where can I learn how this > >> differs from whatever is being done by fetchmail as an example case? > >> O

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-26 Thread Paul Stolp
* Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-26 17:00]: > Benedict Verheyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Andrei Popescu schreef: > > > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> 1.) What is 'reinjection in a mail queue'? Where can I learn how > > >> this differs from whatever is b

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
Benedict Verheyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu schreef: > > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> 1.) What is 'reinjection in a mail queue'? Where can I learn how > >> this differs from whatever is being done by fetchmail as an > >> example case? Or does fetchmail also

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-26 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Andrei Popescu schreef: > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 1.) What is 'reinjection in a mail queue'? Where can I learn how this >> differs from whatever is being done by fetchmail as an example case? >> Or does fetchmail also do reinjection in a mail queue? > > As I understand it,

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/07 14:01, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 1.) What is 'reinjection in a mail queue'? Where can I learn how this >> differs from whatever is being done by fetchmail as an example case? >> Or does fetchmai

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-25 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:43:01 -0500 cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:13:30AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 03/23/07 09:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > Thanks, that's exactly what I w

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1.) What is 'reinjection in a mail queue'? Where can I learn how this > differs from whatever is being done by fetchmail as an example case? > Or does fetchmail also do reinjection in a mail queue? As I understand it, the pop3/imap protocols were create

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-24 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 10:03:22PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 10:07:22AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > My mail is in ~/.Maildir, accessed by dovecot-imapd, delived

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 10:07:22AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > My mail is in ~/.Maildir, accessed by dovecot-imapd, delived to by > > > postfix. How can I configure getmail to deliver mail through >

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/24/07 12:42, cga2000 wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 08:15:00AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/24/07 08:30, cga2000 wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 11:38:09PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: >>

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-24 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 10:07:22AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My mail is in ~/.Maildir, accessed by dovecot-imapd, delived to by > > postfix. How can I configure getmail to deliver mail through postfix > > or dovecot? I don't know what fetchmail

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-24 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 08:15:00AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/24/07 08:30, cga2000 wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 11:38:09PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 03/23/07 19:43, cga

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/24/07 08:30, cga2000 wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 11:38:09PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/23/07 19:43, cga2000 wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:13:30AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: >>

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-24 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 11:38:09PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/23/07 19:43, cga2000 wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:13:30AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> > >> On 03/23/07 09:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> [snip] > >>> Thanks, tha

Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My mail is in ~/.Maildir, accessed by dovecot-imapd, delived to by > postfix. How can I configure getmail to deliver mail through postfix > or dovecot? I don't know what fetchmail does, but I don't think it > delivers directly to ~/.Maildir. Also, I hav

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/07 19:43, cga2000 wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:13:30AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> On 03/23/07 09:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> [snip] >>> Thanks, that's exactly what I want to do. I sometimes access my >>> home email while at

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:13:30AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/23/07 09:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] > > > > Thanks, that's exactly what I want to do. I sometimes access my > > home email while at work via the web interface, a

getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)

2007-03-23 Thread Owen Heisler
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 09:38 -0400, Celejar wrote: > I'm not much of an expert, but here's an excerpt from the getmail FAQ: > > > Why did you write getmail? Why not just use fetchmail? > > > >Short answer: ... well, the short answer is mostly unprintable. The long > >answer is ... well, lo

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/07 14:35, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:13:30 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/23/07 09:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> [snip] >>> Thanks, that's e

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:13:30 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/23/07 09:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] > > > > Thanks, that's exactly what I want to do. I sometimes access my > > home email while at work via the

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread judd
On 23 Mar, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] >> >> I hadn't seen a way to do this delayed deletion easily with >> fetchmail, although I may not have looked thoroughly. > > Install Apache-ssl, Squirrelmail and imap-ssl. > It seems easier to replace fetchmail with getmail. > No, really. PO

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/07 09:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] > > Thanks, that's exactly what I want to do. I sometimes access my > home email while at work via the web interface, and if my wife or kids > are at home using the computer, fetchmail may downl

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:24:54AM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > The fetchmail daemon takes almost no memory nor CPU when idling, so > that's a weak argument for most machines (as long as we're not talking > about wireless routers etc.). > True. However, his earlier point about fetchmail's dae

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread judd
On 23 Mar, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:00:14 -0400 (EDT) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ... > Getmail can do something like this (I'm not sure if this is exactly > what you want). From the configuration documentation: > >>The optional options section of the rc file can be used to

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:09:00 -0400 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 20:45 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:32:55 -0400 > > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 23:26 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > > > Ron Johnson:

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:00:14 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 22 Mar, Celejar wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > > > I use getmail, which is not even designed to run as a daemon. From the [snip] > What advantages are there to getmail? I've run fetchmail > successfully in daemon mo

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread judd
On 22 Mar, Celejar wrote: > > ... > > > I use getmail, which is not even designed to run as a daemon. From the > FAQ: > >> How do I run getmail in "daemon" mode? >> >>Use your system's cron utility to run getmail periodically if you >>wish to have mail retrieved automatically at inter

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 10:24 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Greg Folkert: > > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 23:26 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > >> > >> Yes. On most peoples' systems there's only a fistful of anyway. > ^ users > > You are fooling your

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread Jochen Schulz
Ron Johnson: > > [...] Why created multiple daemons for activity that's going to > run every X number of minutes, when cron is already specialized for > that purpose? It just doesn't hurt. Maybe one could even argue that letting fetchmail run in daemon mode takes less resources over time than ha

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread Jochen Schulz
Greg Folkert: > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 23:26 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: >> >> Yes. On most peoples' systems there's only a fistful of anyway. ^ users > You are fooling yourself. Run them a one shot cronjob set to run every > 10-30 minutes.

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-23 Thread Clive Menzies
On (22/03/07 20:32), Greg Folkert wrote: > You are fooling yourself. Run them a one shot cronjob set to run every > 10-30 minutes. Much better use of resources on the machine. > > As I have said before, fetchmail WILL die or hang on you, when run in > daemon mode. I may have misunderstood but we'

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 20:45 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:32:55 -0400 > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 23:26 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > > Ron Johnson: > > > > On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > > >> > > > >> If your /etc/fetchmai

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 17:26, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Ron Johnson: >> On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: >>> If your /etc/fetchmailrc is empty anyway, you can edit >>> /etc/default/fetchmail to disable the system-wide fetchmail daemon >>> altogether. This sol

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:32:55 -0400 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 23:26 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > Ron Johnson: > > > On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > >> > > >> If your /etc/fetchmailrc is empty anyway, you can edit > > >> /etc/default/fetchmail to

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 23:26 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Ron Johnson: > > On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: > >> > >> If your /etc/fetchmailrc is empty anyway, you can edit > >> /etc/default/fetchmail to disable the system-wide fetchmail daemon > >> altogether. This solution has the advanta

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:42:54 -0400 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Sorry, but running fetchmail as a daemon is the worst possible way to > run fetchmail. > > Run it as a cronjob as a job as your user. It will work. You just need > to setup your .fetchmailrc properly. > > ANYTI

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 11:29:06PM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > I had to look it up, too. @reboot is a misnomer in my opinion, anyway. > It appears to be run only on warm boots while in fact it is run at every > startup. > If you think about it, every boot after the very first is technically a

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Jochen Schulz
Roberto C. Sánchez: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:21:45PM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: >> Roberto C. Sánchez: >>> >>> To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and >>> put '@startup fetchmail' >> >> Oh, and BTW: it's "@reboot", not "@startup". :) >> > Doh! My mistake. I w

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Jochen Schulz
Ron Johnson: > On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: >> >> If your /etc/fetchmailrc is empty anyway, you can edit >> /etc/default/fetchmail to disable the system-wide fetchmail daemon >> altogether. This solution has the advantage, that every user can manage >> his/her own POP accounts (without

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 13:10 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 22 Mar, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:38 +0800, Jian Jun Wang wrote: > >> > >> I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure > >> fetchmail to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at >

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread judd
On 22 Mar, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:38 +0800, Jian Jun Wang wrote: >> >> I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure >> fetchmail to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at >> startup, I did >> 1. Installed sysv-rc-conf and toggle fetchmail in i

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:21:45PM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez: > > > > To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and > > put '@startup fetchmail' > > Oh, and BTW: it's "@reboot", not "@startup". :) > Doh! My mistake. I was going from memory and did

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 10:42, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:38 +0800, Jian Jun Wang wrote: >> I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure fetchmail >> to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at startup, I >> did >>

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Ron Johnson: >> On 03/22/07 08:18, Jochen Schulz wrote: >>> Ron Johnson: On 03/22/07 08:03, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and >

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:38 +0800, Jian Jun Wang wrote: > > I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure fetchmail > to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at startup, I > did > 1. Installed sysv-rc-conf and toggle fetchmail in it as root > 2. edit /etc/default/fetc

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Jochen Schulz
Ron Johnson: > On 03/22/07 08:18, Jochen Schulz wrote: >> Ron Johnson: >>> On 03/22/07 08:03, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >>> To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and put '@startup fetchmail' (no quotes in either case). Then, whenever your machine starts u

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 08:18, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Ron Johnson: >> On 03/22/07 08:03, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >>> To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and >>> put '@startup fetchmail' (no quotes in either case). Then, whenever >>

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Jochen Schulz
Roberto C. Sánchez: > > To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and > put '@startup fetchmail' Oh, and BTW: it's "@reboot", not "@startup". :) J. -- I worry about people thinking I have lost direction. [Agree] [Disagree]

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Jochen Schulz
Ron Johnson: > On 03/22/07 08:03, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >>> >> To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and >> put '@startup fetchmail' (no quotes in either case). Then, whenever >> your machine starts up, it should start fetchmail for you. > > Shouldn't it also put

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 08:03, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 06:54:05AM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: >> Jian Jun Wang: >>> I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure fetchmail >>> to get my mails from gmail. In order to run f

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 06:54:05AM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Jian Jun Wang: > > I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure fetchmail > > to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at startup, I did > > 1. Installed sysv-rc-conf and toggle fetchmail in it as root > >

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-21 Thread Jochen Schulz
Jian Jun Wang: > I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure fetchmail > to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at startup, I did > 1. Installed sysv-rc-conf and toggle fetchmail in it as root > 2. edit /etc/default/fetchmail, to make it as daemon > 3. edit $HOME/.fe

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/21/07 22:38, Jian Jun Wang wrote: > > I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure fetchmail > to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at startup, I did > 1. Installed sysv-rc-conf and toggle fetchmail in it as root

How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-21 Thread Jian Jun Wang
I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure fetchmail to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at startup, I did 1. Installed sysv-rc-conf and toggle fetchmail in it as root 2. edit /etc/default/fetchmail, to make it as daemon 3. edit $HOME/.fetchmailrc defaults mda