On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
> From: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Today, RC5. Tomorrow, DES. Next
> > week, Phil Zimmerman's a free man. (Oh well, we can dream...)
>
> The government dropped its case against Zimmerman long ago.
>
That is true, but he is still be "peste
Bruce, I feel I have to reply after reading some follow ups, including yours.
> It was OK for us to participate as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the RSA Data
> Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
> the "Linux" group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
Wel
> Bruce, don't spend all your time worrying about how Debian is going to
> be viewed by the rest of the Linux community.
Uh, sorry, this is my job within the project. We've been really careful
to maintain good relations with the other Linux distributions and free
software producers. Messing them u
> From: "John T. Larkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Harvey Mudd should be producing somewhere between 3 and 4 M kps by
> > tomarrow. Right now, most of us are running under [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > but we can change that if Bruce still disagrees with our possition.
>
> I asked the people at Zero to lu
Bruce:
> From: Mike Neuffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > So far the only thing that Bruce accomplished with his uncoordinated
> > action is that numerous hosts dropped entirely out of the key-search.
>
> Big deal. They have years to go. We might ask ourselves some questions
> about this kind of public
At 01:00 PM 2/26/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote:
>1. Do we want it? Do we really want free software to be associated with
> code-breaking in the eyes of the uneducated public? I'm not sure that
> would not hurt us. Just think about the articles on a government code
> being broken using a "hacker"
On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
> It was OK for us to participate as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the RSA Data
> Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
> the "Linux" group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
> embarassing to beat them. So please, if
From: Mike Neuffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> So far the only thing that Bruce accomplished with his uncoordinated
> action is that numerous hosts dropped entirely out of the key-search.
Big deal. They have years to go. We might ask ourselves some questions
about this kind of publicity.
1. Do we want
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Karl Ferguson wrote:
> At 07:03 PM 25/02/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote:
> >It was OK for us to participate as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the RSA Data
> >Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
> >the "Linux" group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It wou
From: "John T. Larkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Harvey Mudd should be producing somewhere between 3 and 4 M kps by
> tomarrow. Right now, most of us are running under [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> but we can change that if Bruce still disagrees with our possition.
I asked the people at Zero to lump our poin
From: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Today, RC5. Tomorrow, DES. Next
> week, Phil Zimmerman's a free man. (Oh well, we can dream...)
Bruce:
> The government dropped its case against Zimmerman long ago.
> Branden:
> I guess the government figures it can leave you alone after it bankrupt
subtle, but correct. I've switched (my not terribly significant)
machines over...
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On Feb 26, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote
> Karl Ferguson wrote:
> > At 07:03 PM 25/02/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > >the "Linux" group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
> > >embarassing to beat them. So please, if you are participating, change your
> > >reporting address to "[EMAIL
"Jens B. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yeah. If the folks at gzero.net will add the numbers from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then why would we want to
> change?! I think that is all the more reason *not* to change because
> we can help the greater cause while at the same ti
> From: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Today, RC5. Tomorrow, DES. Next
> > week, Phil Zimmerman's a free man. (Oh well, we can dream...)
>
> The government dropped its case against Zimmerman long ago.
I guess the government figures it can leave you alone after it bankrupts
you...but
From: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Today, RC5. Tomorrow, DES. Next
> week, Phil Zimmerman's a free man. (Oh well, we can dream...)
The government dropped its case against Zimmerman long ago.
Bruce
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Karl Ferguson wrote:
>
> At 07:03 PM 25/02/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote:
> >It was OK for us to participate as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the RSA Data
> >Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
> >the "Linux" group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
> >embar
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Do you win by exploring a larger fraction
> > of the keyspace than anyone else, or by finding the key?
>
> By finding the key. We were approaching a 1 in 10 probability of
> finding the key. If we won against the Linux group, it would have
> created the perception tha
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Do you win by exploring a larger fraction
> of the keyspace than anyone else, or by finding the key?
By finding the key. We were approaching a 1 in 10 probability of
finding the key. If we won against the Linux group, it would have
created the perception that Debian would
From: Karl Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Why is it such a bad thing to beat the Linux group? The whole idea is to
> increase the awareness of Debian Linux - when people see we're in the
> number 2 slot or even number 1, we'll have good publicity.
I'd prefer to avoid the perception that we would
At 07:03 PM 25/02/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote:
>It was OK for us to participate as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the RSA Data
>Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
>the "Linux" group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
>embarassing to beat them. So please, if
How is this thing being scored? Do you win by exploring a larger fraction
of the keyspace than anyone else, or by finding the key? While the
probability of any given group finding the key is proportional to the
fraction of the keyspace explored by that group, it could be found by
anybody. The od
It was OK for us to participate as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the RSA Data
Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
the "Linux" group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
embarassing to beat them. So please, if you are participating, change your
reporting addr
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