On Friday, March 05, 2021 08:44:26 PM David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 05 Mar 2021 at 14:30:30 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, March 05, 2021 11:56:24 AM David Wright wrote:
> > > On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 15:47:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > > If a device is sold on
On Fri 05 Mar 2021 at 14:30:30 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, March 05, 2021 11:56:24 AM David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 15:47:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > If a device is sold on a separate card, it's not necessarily
> > enough to know the model
On Friday, March 05, 2021 11:56:24 AM David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 15:47:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> If a device is sold on a separate card, it's not necessarily
> enough to know the model number of the card. Many "identical"
> models are sold with various different ch
On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 15:47:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 04, 2021 12:40:00 PM David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:36:42 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote:
> > Brian wrote: '"+1" for what? Adv
Brian wrote:
>On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 11:40:00 -0600, David Wright wrote:
>
>> On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:36:42 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > It would be nicer if there was some person or group that tried to vet
>> > them, or
>> > maybe even suggesting that something like a requirement
On Thursday, March 04, 2021 12:40:00 PM David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:36:42 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote:
> Brian wrote: '"+1" for what? Advertising each and every non-Debian
> installer that comes along and is upl
On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 11:40:00 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:36:42 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > It would be nicer if there was some person or group that tried to vet them,
> > or
> > maybe even suggesting that something like a requirement that at least one
>
On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 10:54:14 (+), Leandro neto wrote:
> I volunteer to be [ ] a mirror on Rio de Janeiro Brasil. I build computers
> but I don't know about programming leandro
AIUI we're not talking about mirrors, but about building the software
that might eventually be mirrored.
Cheers,
On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:36:42 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote:
Brian wrote: '"+1" for what? Advertising each and every non-Debian
installer that comes along and is uploaded to unofficial?'
> > I was under the impression that "The Deb
I volunteer to beca mirror on Rio de Janeiro Brasil. I build computers but I don't know about programming leandro
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Assunto: Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]
De: rhkra...@gmail.com
Enviado em: 3 de março de 2021
On 2021-03-03, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote:
>> I was under the impression that "The Debian Images Team is a small
>> team of people working on creating, testing and distributing Debian
>> images for [us]", whereas you seem to be describing
On Wednesday, March 03, 2021 06:15:03 PM Brian wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 03, 2021 03:18:25 PM Brian wrote:
> > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The
> > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users
> > with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious es
t; https://www.debian.org/distrib/
> >
> > What's the problem?
>
> I thought the problem was as described in this from Brian:
>
> Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]
> From: Brian (resent from debian-user@lists.debian.org)
> To: d
roblem was as described in this from Brian:
Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]
From: Brian (resent from debian-user@lists.debian.org)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Fri Feb 26 13:41:40 2021
...
A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The
problem wit
On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:27:42 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 06:29:15 PM Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote:
> > > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...
On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 21:01:09 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 23:29:15 (+), Brian wrote:
[...]
> > > > "+1" for what? Advertising each and every non-Debian installer that
> > > > comes along and is uploaded to unofficial?
>
> I was under the impression that "The Debian I
On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote:
> I was under the impression that "The Debian Images Team is a small
> team of people working on creating, testing and distributing Debian
> images for [us]", whereas you seem to be describing something like
> a wiki where any Tom, Dick or
On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 06:29:15 PM Brian wrote:
> On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote:
> > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > No. Providing a reasonable explanatory text about
On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 23:29:15 (+), Brian wrote:
> On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote:
> > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celej
On 2021-03-02 23:29, Brian wrote:
On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote:
> On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote:
> > > "Many wireles
On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote:
> > > > "Many wireless network cards (and even som
On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote:
> On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote:
> > > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require
> > > non-free firmware to function properly. This
On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote:
> > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require
> > non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware is not included
> > in the standard installation i
On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 11:29:57 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 28 feb 21, 12:03:31, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > Snark aside, what's wrong with something like this:
> >
> > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require
> > non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware i
On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 10:23:51 +, David Goodenough wrote:
> How is a naive user meant to know whether his hardware required
> non-free firmware?
That's a very tricky one to give a definitive answer to. It possibly
depends on the quality and quantity of research done by the user.
Howerever, th
On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote:
> "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require
> non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware is not included
> in the standard installation images, due to Debian's free software
> ideals. If the network hardware yo
[Fixed top-posting.]
On Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:23:51 +
David Goodenough wrote:
> On Monday, 1 March 2021 09:29:57 GMT Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Du, 28 feb 21, 12:03:31, Celejar wrote:
> > > Snark aside, what's wrong with something like this:
> > >
> > > "Many wireless network cards (and eve
How is a naive user meant to know whether his hardware required non-free
firmware?
The only route that seems to be given by this wording is that they install (or
try to install)
the system using the official image, and then have to work out for themselves
what does
not work, and from that wh
On Du, 28 feb 21, 12:03:31, Celejar wrote:
>
> Snark aside, what's wrong with something like this:
>
> "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require
> non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware is not included
> in the standard installation images, due to Debian's fre
On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 14:27:24 -0500, Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 19:11:51 +
> Brian wrote:
>
> > On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 12:03:31 -0500, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 +
> > > Brian wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wr
On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 19:11:51 +
Brian wrote:
> On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 12:03:31 -0500, Celejar wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 +
> > Brian wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > >
> > > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2
On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 12:03:31 -0500, Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 +
> Brian wrote:
>
> > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
> >
> > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > >
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 +
Brian wrote:
> On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> > to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The
>
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:41:40 +
Brian wrote:
...
> A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The
> problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users
> with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious escape route is
> advertised. Yes, I know - if a site search is co
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:49:58PM +, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> > to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. T
On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The
> > > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many us
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The
> > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users
> > with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious escape route is
> >
On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 21:15:31 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The
> > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users
> > with wireless-only connec
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote:
[...]
> A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The
> problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users
> with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious escape route is
> advertised. Yes, I know - if a site sear
On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 13:59:38 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 02:08:26PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Jo, 25 feb 21, 11:53:18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > >
> > > No worries. Things happen -- and in this case you happened to step
> > > onto a sticky issue which ha
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> Try installing in expert mode (if the image boots), as far as I recall
> there was an option to enable and use backports.
Thanks. Well, the referenced LWN discussion mentioned tethering and
indeed, plugging in my phone and enabling USB tethering resulted in a
detected n
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 02:08:26PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 25 feb 21, 11:53:18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> > No worries. Things happen -- and in this case you happened to step
> > onto a sticky issue which has no "nice" solution. The two extremes
> >
> > (a) Debian should be a f
On Jo, 25 feb 21, 18:30:55, Anssi Saari wrote:
>
> But what if someone needs a newer kernel than 4.19 too? My chosen HW
> needs kernel 5.1 for wifi and 5.9 for ethernet plus FW from Intel and
> Realtek. And no, I don't want to install testing or unstable. Or Ubuntu.
>
> I figured I'll install fro
On Jo, 25 feb 21, 11:53:18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> No worries. Things happen -- and in this case you happened to step
> onto a sticky issue which has no "nice" solution. The two extremes
>
> (a) Debian should be a free distribution. If you're holding a
>Debian "CD" [1] on your hands, yo
On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 21:05:00 (-0800), Weaver wrote:
> On 25-02-2021 14:53, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote:
> >> On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote:
> >> > IL Ka wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I
Anssi Saari (a...@sci.fi) wrote:
> Henning Follmann writes:
>
> > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
> >
> > Please take the time to read AND
Henning Follmann writes:
> You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
> https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
>
> Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that site.
I h
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 01:36:58AM +0300, IL Ka wrote:
> >
> > Please do not do that.
> >
> >
> > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
> >
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
> >
> >
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 01:36:58AM +0300, IL Ka wrote:
> >
> > Please do not do that.
> >
> >
> > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
> >
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
> >
> >
On Thursday 25 February 2021 02:23:22 deloptes wrote:
> IL Ka wrote:
> > If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian
> > installation guide somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to
> > this wiki to newbies.
>
> newbies use ubuntu :)
Yeah, but it doesn't take long to get over t
Hi,
David Wright wrote:
> > Take care: this stick will have very strange partitioning.
I am preaching against this partition table layout since years.
deloptes wrote:
> newbies use ubuntu :)
... which eventually switched to a neater layout in the 20.10 ISOs with
only one partition table hack l
IL Ka wrote:
> If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation
> guide somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to
> newbies.
newbies use ubuntu :)
On 2021-02-24 14:36, IL Ka wrote:
I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
Debian.
My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.
This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that
needs non-free firmware" I see in thi
On 25-02-2021 14:53, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote:
>> On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote:
>> > IL Ka wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
>> >> Debian.
>> >> My idea was to install Debian, and t
On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote:
> On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > IL Ka wrote:
> >>
> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
> >> Debian.
> >> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.
>
> This is quit
On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote:
> IL Ka wrote:
>>
>> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
>> Debian.
>> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.
This is quite possible.
>> This is the third question about "how to install Debia
IL Ka wrote:
>
> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
> Debian.
> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.
>
> This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that
> needs non-free firmware" I see in this list o
On Thu 25 Feb 2021 at 01:36:58 +0300, IL Ka wrote:
> >
> > Please do not do that.
> >
> >
> > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
> >
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
> >
> > Pl
>
> Please do not do that.
>
>
> You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
>
> https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
>
> Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that site
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 08:49:32PM +0300, IL Ka wrote:
> Hello.
> Try to download and install "debian-10.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso"
> from here:
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
>
>
Please do not do that.
You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmwa
On 2021-02-24 09:47, M.R.P. zensky wrote:
Hello I am installing Debian on a amd processor computer. I connect to the net
with wifi. I have tried the net install iso and it did not work. I think I need
the unoficial stable non free firmware included. I select a mirror site but
Here I am confuse
Hello.
Try to download and install "debian-10.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso"
from here:
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 8:48 PM M.R.P. zensky
wrote:
> Hello I am installing Debian on a amd processor computer. I connect to the
> net with wifi. I have tr
Hello I am installing Debian on a amd processor computer. I connect to the net
with wifi. I have tried the net install iso and it did not work. I think I need
the unoficial stable non free firmware included. I select a mirror site but
Here I am confused about what iso file I want. I am also assu
Doug wrote:
> And disconnect the Windows drive
> when you install Linux.
completely paranoid approach, but if you are not sure in what you are doing,
it is justified. However for the record it is not necessary to do any of
this and even not required to have 2 drives, unless you do some windows
fa
On 02/09/2017 10:24 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 02/09/2017 05:11 PM, Lori . wrote:
/snip/
I'm really confused, if you can and or
have the time please guide me for the Dual Boot installation process.
I've
been a big follower of Debian Linux for 3 years. I don't know why
this time
I'm having
On 02/09/2017 05:11 PM, Lori . wrote:
Hello, I've been having some problematic issues with the install of Debian
8. I'm trying to do a so called "Dual-Boot" with my Windows 10 dell laptop.
I've partitioned my disk and shrunk it to 125gb of free space. I have a
FAT32 usb stick that holds 16gb on i
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 20:11:55 -0500 "Lori ." wrote:
> Hello, I've been having some problematic issues with the install of
> Debian
> 8. I'm trying to do a so called "Dual-Boot" with my Windows 10 dell
> laptop. I've partitioned my disk and shrunk it to 125gb of free
> space. I have a FAT32 usb stic
Hello, I've been having some problematic issues with the install of Debian
8. I'm trying to do a so called "Dual-Boot" with my Windows 10 dell laptop.
I've partitioned my disk and shrunk it to 125gb of free space. I have a
FAT32 usb stick that holds 16gb on it. So when I partitioned one of my disk
On Saturday 14 December 2013 02:22 PM, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:06:15 +0530
Kailash Kalyani wrote:
Apt-get gave me the following error:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae : Breaks: initramfs-tools (< 0.110~)
but 0.109.1 is to b
Hi.
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:06:15 +0530
Kailash Kalyani wrote:
> Apt-get gave me the following error:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae : Breaks: initramfs-tools (< 0.110~)
> but 0.109.1 is to be installed
> E: Unable to correct problems,
On Saturday 14 December 2013 12:06 PM, Kailash Kalyani wrote:
On Friday 13 December 2013 02:32 AM, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:33:45 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps i
On Friday 13 December 2013 02:32 AM, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:33:45 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps it's for
Debian broken too. Sometimes nothing is inconsistent, b
Hi.
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:33:45 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps it's for
> > Debian broken too. Sometimes nothing is inconsistent, but Synaptic
> > claims that a dependenc
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 23:03 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530
> > Kailash Kalyani wrote:
> >
> > > My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports
> > > without breaking a stable in
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 23:03 +0400, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530
> Kailash Kalyani wrote:
>
> > My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports
> > without breaking a stable install. What am I missing?
>
> Sure, it is possible. You're just using
Hi.
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530
Kailash Kalyani wrote:
> My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports
> without breaking a stable install. What am I missing?
Sure, it is possible. You're just using wrong tool for the task.
Try:
apt-get install -t wheezy-backpor
Karen Lewellen, 26.06.2012:
> Hi Lici,
> That was the nicest way to say...get to the point!
> Honestly, I cannot speak to how layout appears for others.
> I actually have the same question when I use, pico, the editor here.
> In google mail there is an option. Wrap lines to fit displayed area?
I
Hi lisi,
Thank you!
what your post shows, and what I honestly stopped trying to express is
this.
There is no such thing as a so called one size fits all blind user.
Like every single aspect of the human experience, sight loss is a 100%
individual thing.
Just like sight presence. to claim that
Hi, Julien!
On Wednesday 13 June 2012 20:42:04 Julien Claassen wrote:
> Debian has much more to offer to me as a blnd
> user and it's more stable. :-)
+1 Much better also for a partially sighted user. I use Lenny with KDE
3.5.10, which is highly configurable, and I have configured it for me!
Hi Lici,
That was the nicest way to say...get to the point!
Honestly, I cannot speak to how layout appears for others.
I actually have the same question when I use, pico, the editor here.
In google mail there is an option. Wrap lines to fit displayed area?
I always say now, since the displayed a
On Wednesday 13 June 2012 19:55:19 Julien Claassen wrote:
> Knoppix did support blind users as well. There is Vinux, which is a Debian
> version specially compiled for blind users.
Julien -
Vinux is based on Ubuntu, not Debian, and I do not like it. I am partially
sighted, not fully blind, but
On Wednesday 13 June 2012 02:47:37 Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Rob,
> I do not work in most popular, because this may or may not mean most
> accessible from a screen reading standpoint, or more flexible from a
> usability standpoint...in my personal dictionary, there is no such thing
> as "most people.
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:32:56 +1000, Scott wrote in message
<4fd9a1b8.9050...@gmail.com>:
> On 14/06/12 04:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:27:22 +1000, Scott wrote in message
> > <4fd7de6a.6020...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> On 13/06/12 04:45, Brian wrote:
> >>> On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at
On Thu 14 Jun 2012 at 13:28:31 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 14/06/12 01:45, Curt wrote:
>
> > and once an "expert" you may choose Squeeze as the target distribution.
>
> after choosing the mirrors module during the load installer components
> from cd option (expert mode).
Won't work with a
On Thu 14 Jun 2012 at 13:17:59 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 13/06/12 19:29, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 10:57:42 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> >
> >> On 13/06/12 04:35, a troll wrote:
> >>>
> >>> By the time the choosing a mirror stage is reached with a netinst image
> >>> or the
On 14/06/12 17:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 16:49 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> My primary concern would be whether the audio chipset is going to be
>> supported
>
> Those old boards perhaps often use AC'97?
Post 1997 - yes (funny that)
AC is just Intel's "standard" (v1 -
On 14/06/12 04:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:27:22 +1000, Scott wrote in message
> <4fd7de6a.6020...@gmail.com>:
>
>> On 13/06/12 04:45, Brian wrote:
>>> On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 16:52:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>>>
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:01:22 +0100, Brian wrote in messag
On 14/06/12 17:46, Curt wrote:
> On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>
>
> I'm snide and curmudgeonly. It could be worse.
Indeed. Best try and stay sane.
If you don't you'd be snide, curmudgeonly, and nuts. Which would make
you some sort of a snack bar. You can see the problem right there
On 14/06/12 17:24, Curt wrote:
> On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson
> wrote:
>>
>> Claim?
Hey - if I made a "claim" (actually just agreed with the OPs
information) what sort of specious allegation do we label the d-i and
speakup developers claims?
HINT: I believe it involves inciting jaywalking and w
On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> I may be assuming wrong,
>
> No. But don't let that stop you from being snide.
>
I'm snide and curmudgeonly. It could be worse.
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On 2012-06-13, Brian wrote:
>>
>> Technical evidence that inside the Wheezy installer, in expert mode,
>> prior to partitioning, but after choosing a mirror of the Debian
>> archive, the installer asks which release you wish to install, at which
>> point you may choose Squeeze?
>
> I have presen
On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>
> Claim?
Well, there's that other guy trying desperately to find "technical
evidence" against your "empircal data," so I employed a word I hoped
would demonstrate my scientific objectivity in the matter.
> curmudgeonly - says nothing of me, speaks volumes o
On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 16:49 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> My primary concern would be whether the audio chipset is going to be
> supported
Those old boards perhaps often use AC'97? It's supported by ALSA. BIOS
settings might need a check up, dunno. Google found hits regarding to
issues with pulse
On 14/06/12 15:46, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:01:23 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message
> :
>> but there is only so much possible WITH this present box,
Provided you have at least 128MB of RAM there's not much *non-graphical*
"desktop-type" tasks that you *cannot* do.
>> its
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:01:23 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message
:
> oh my...what have I started?
..nobody told you what happens when you toss lighted matches
down gas tank holes? Hint, it's usually audible. ;o)
> put a creative challenge to this bunch and the ideas flow.
> *however*
> I have
On 14/06/12 02:14, Curt wrote:
> On 2012-06-13, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>
>> IIRC it was Scott? who does exactly mentioned this in his kindly
>> style :D. Options could have sub-options. - Ralf
>>
>
> Yes, I was replying to Brian's inquiry concerning Scott's
> claim that one can install Squeeze usin
On 14/06/12 01:45, Curt wrote:
> On 2012-06-13, Brian wrote:
>>
>> I don't see what you do. Is this a bug in my installer?
>
> He said prior to partitioning so I assume once you get into the partitioning
> dialogue, the installer gives you the opportunity to choose an "expert"
> install,
The in
On 13/06/12 19:29, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 10:57:42 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>
>> On 13/06/12 04:35, a troll wrote:
>>>
>>> By the time the choosing a mirror stage is reached with a netinst image
>>> or the first CD the base files (Stable or Testing versions) have been
>>> instal
Karen,
I believe I can help you but am asking if it's ok to contact you off
list to discuss. I also have a vision problem so am somewhat aware of
your difficulty. Just reply to the list or to me private and I'll do
what I can to get you up and running and learning Debian.
Regards,
Whit Hansell
On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 23:17:49 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:14 +, Curt wrote:
> > The technical evidence is in the empirical data referenced in the article
> > of an experienced, regular user of this list.
>
> I only skim the text and my English is terrible broken. I'
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