On Tue 21 Apr 2020 at 09:01:35 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 04:15:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > If I receive spam and wish to report it to my ISP, I BOUNCE the
> > > message, so as not to disturb the "evidence" or "scene of the crime".
> >
> > I
On Apr 20, 2020, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> [...]
> Neo-mutt documentation led me to believe that there is a "b" command
> (or something of the sort) for BOUNCE; but I did not find it, perhaps
> because I use the "Classic Dvorak" keymap. I then discovered that
> commands not tied to a key can be
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 04:15:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
[...]
> > If I receive spam and wish to report it to my ISP, I BOUNCE the
> > message, so as not to disturb the "evidence" or "scene of the crime".
>
> I remain unconvinced. If you forward an email as an attachment, then
> its contain
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 04:15:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
In addition, if the original email contained a malicious gotcha, you
expose the recipient of the bounced email to the same risk that you
presumably have just avoided.
I am no expert on the matter. However, my approach has been to
te
On Mon 20 Apr 2020 at 19:36:40 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:53:47AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
[…]
> > It's always seemed futile to me to bounce an entire message back to
> > the sender: after all, they sent it, they know what was in it, and
> > have probably retai
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 07:36:40PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:53:47AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> >>Oh, this was explicitly about Thunderbird's ":exec bounce-message"?
> >>I missed that bit, sorry for that. Will re-read.
>
> >If this is so, then : must be an acti
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:53:47AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
Oh, this was explicitly about Thunderbird's ":exec bounce-message"?
I missed that bit, sorry for that. Will re-read.
If this is so, then : must be an active character in order to
introduce the string "exec". I see no mention of : in
On Mon 20 Apr 2020 at 12:27:55 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:57:34AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:43:40AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > >>Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message".
> > >
> > >Oh, wow. Thanks for th
On 2020-04-20 at 06:27, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:57:34AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:43:40AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>> Oh, wow. Thanks for the hint. Does anyone know what that command
>>> does?
>>
>> Someone provided a de
On 2020-04-20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> "back to the sender" makes me unsure now: does ":exec bounce-message"
> let you choose the target, or is it just "back to sender"?
>
What did I tell you?
On 2020-04-20, elvis wrote:
>
> On 19/4/20 8:35 pm, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Apr, 2020 at 19:11:55 +1000, elvis wrote:
>>> On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is
*not* forwarding (should
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:57:34AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:43:40AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >>Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message".
> >
> >Oh, wow. Thanks for the hint. Does anyone know what that command
> >does?
>
> Someone provided
(Extraneous quoted misattribution removed for clarity, after having
reviewed the thread to determine who actually wrote what.)
On 2020-04-20 at 05:15, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 05:55:07PM +1000, elvis wrote:
>
Any idea how to do this in Thunderbird?
>
> Thunderbird
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:43:40AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message".
Oh, wow. Thanks for the hint. Does anyone know what that command
does?
Someone provided a detailed explaination of bounce a few messages
earlier in this thread. But brie
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:15:32AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 05:55:07PM +1000, elvis wrote:
> >>>On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >>>Any idea how to do this in Thunderbird?
>
> Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message".
Oh, wow. Thanks for
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 05:55:07PM +1000, elvis wrote:
On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Any idea how to do this in Thunderbird?
Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message".
On 2020-04-19, wrote:
>
>> My half-assed understanding of bouncing is this: When you get a
>> message that wasn't really meant for you, and you know where it ought
>> to go, then you should "bounce" it there [...]
>
> Correct. This was bounce's original purpose. It has the property
> that it pass
On 19/4/20 8:35 pm, Liam O'Toole wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr, 2020 at 19:11:55 +1000, elvis wrote:
On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
[...]
Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is
*not* forwarding (should probably mention this in the wiki).U
In over 25 ye
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 08:09:28PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:07:42 -0400
> Doug McGarrett wrote:
>
> > This may be a little off-topic, but it seems to me that any email
> > from a .nl address is spam. Am I wrong? (I just erase from the top!)
>
> Yes, you are wrong. Th
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:07:42 -0400
Doug McGarrett wrote:
> This may be a little off-topic, but it seems to me that any email
> from a .nl address is spam. Am I wrong? (I just erase from the top!)
Yes, you are wrong. There are plenty of legitimate users in the
Netherlands.
--
Does anybody read
On 4/19/20 4:59 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
/snip/
This may be a little off-topic, but it seems to me that any email from a .nl
address is spam. Am I wrong? (I just erase from the top!)
--doug
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 08:28:08PM +, davidson wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> >On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:51:27, Chris Ramsden wrote:
> >>
> >>I'd invite Andrei to define what he means by "bounce".
> >
> >I thought I already did in follow-ups. The Debian specific instruction
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:51:27, Chris Ramsden wrote:
I'd invite Andrei to define what he means by "bounce".
I thought I already did in follow-ups. The Debian specific instructions
explicitly mention mutt as an example.
As far as I can tell it is what W
On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:51:27, Chris Ramsden wrote:
>
> I'd invite Andrei to define what he means by "bounce".
I thought I already did in follow-ups. The Debian specific instructions
explicitly mention mutt as an example.
As far as I can tell it is what Wikipedia calls "remailing"[1], though I
mi
On Du, 19 apr 20, 13:27:40, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >>
> >> Ah, I see. I was betting on "forwarding", but later it occurred to me
> >> that this would wrap the original message (probably without headers
> >> :-( into a part of a multi-part MIME. Drats. Probably you are right.
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:27:40PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
>> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>> As far as I know "forwarding as attachment" does not affect the
>>> original message (though this may depend on the client), however it
>>> is *not* appropriate for this particular
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:27:40PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> >>> Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and
> >>> it in
Hallo! Du (Andrei POPESCU) hast geschrieben:
> * DO report spam only by bouncing it to report-lists...@lists.debian.org
Please see
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam#Methods_to_Nominate_Spam_for_the_Review-Process
> Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail cl
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>> Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and
>>> it involves resending the message (mostly untouched) to another
>>> address.
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:07:50PM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
> On 19/04/2020 12:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:56:32AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
> >>On 19/04/2020 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >>>On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
> >
On 19/04/2020 12:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:56:32AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
On 19/04/2020 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
[...]
Never used it myself though as I control my own mail server.
Just t
Am 19.04.20 um 12:38 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de:
If there's any thunderbird expert here: hey, tell us how that works,
and I promise to edit the Debian wiki :-)
You need to install an add on to have this feature in Thunderbird and
it's forks: https://mailredirect.sourceforge.io/
Maybe there ar
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:56:32AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
> On 19/04/2020 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
[...]
> >>Never used it myself though as I control my own mail server.
> >Just to avoid misunderstandings: how are thos
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:51:27AM +0100, Chris Ramsden wrote:
[...]
> I'd invite Andrei to define what he means by "bounce". The vast majority of
> spam reporting agencies I have worked with ask for either headers, or the
> whole of the offending message sent as an attachment. No email client
On 19/04/2020 11:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:50:01AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
[...]
Don't do boasting, but I have installed TB thousands of times, just
like I've installed linux and windows thousands of times. No big
deal is it?
Sorry if I came across a bit "unf
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:50:01AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
[...]
> Don't do boasting, but I have installed TB thousands of times, just
> like I've installed linux and windows thousands of times. No big
> deal is it?
Sorry if I came across a bit "unfriendly". It's just impatience. I just
can
On 19/04/2020 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
[...]
If there's any thunderbird expert here: hey, tell us how that works,
and I promise to edit the Debian wiki :-)
There is a mail redirect plugin for TB here,
https://mailredirect
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
[...]
> >If there's any thunderbird expert here: hey, tell us how that works,
> >and I promise to edit the Debian wiki :-)
> >
> >
> There is a mail redirect plugin for TB here,
> https://mailredirect.sourceforge.io/installation.html
On 19/04/2020 10:11, elvis wrote:
On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
* DO report spam only by bouncing it to report-lists...@lists.debian.org
https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#posting-spam
Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is
*not* forwar
On 19/04/2020 11:42, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:16:50AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
[...]
No way. Thing wanted to set up an account and refused to play
with me without one.
You mean an email client wanted you to setup an email account? Wow,
how absurd :)
Indeed. I ju
On 19/04/2020 11:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:15:16PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
[...]
Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailin
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:16:50AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:
[...]
> >No way. Thing wanted to set up an account and refused to play
> >with me without one.
>
> You mean an email client wanted you to setup an email account? Wow,
> how absurd :)
Indeed. I just wanted to "kick the UI tires". Bu
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:15:16PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and it
> > > involves
On Sun, 19 Apr, 2020 at 19:11:55 +1000, elvis wrote:
>
> On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
[...]
> > Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is
> > *not* forwarding (should probably mention this in the wiki).U
>
> In over 25 years of email I have never come
On Du, 19 apr 20, 10:03:07, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> * DO report spam only by bouncing it to report-lists...@lists.debian.org
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#posting-spam
>
> Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is
> *not* forwarding (should probab
On 19/04/2020 10:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 07:11:55PM +1000, elvis wrote:
On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Dear List Subscribers,
If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please:
* do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even
On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and it
> > involves resending the message (mostly untouched) to another address.
>
> Ah, I see.
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
[...]
> Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and it
> involves resending the message (mostly untouched) to another address.
Ah, I see. I was betting on "forwarding", but later it occurred to me
that this
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 07:11:55PM +1000, elvis wrote:
>
> On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >Dear List Subscribers,
> >
> >
> >If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please:
> >
> >* do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to
> >remove it
On Du, 19 apr 20, 19:11:55, elvis wrote:
> On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > * DO report spam only by bouncing it to report-lists...@lists.debian.org
> >
> > https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#posting-spam
> >
> > Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail cl
On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Dear List Subscribers,
If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please:
* do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to
remove it from the archives, since it is now a part of a legitimate
thread)
* do NOT
On Du, 19 apr 20, 02:25:14, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/19/2020 02:03 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > * DO report spam only by bouncing it to report-lists...@lists.debian.org
> >
> > https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#posting-spam
> >
> > Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 02:25:14AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/19/2020 02:03 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >Dear List Subscribers,
> >
> >
> >If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please:
> >
> >* do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to
>
On 04/19/2020 02:03 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Dear List Subscribers,
If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please:
* do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to
remove it from the archives, since it is now a part of a legitimate
thread)
* do NO
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:03:07AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Dear List Subscribers,
>
>
> If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please:
>
> * do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to
> remove it from the archives, since it is now a part o
Dear List Subscribers,
If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please:
* do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to
remove it from the archives, since it is now a part of a legitimate
thread)
* do NOT quote spam, not even partially (this confuse
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