Heh. My simple question about mutt grew into a whole philosophical
discussion of mail and dependency issues...
I'd like to remind people that my original problem was that I did have an
MTA installed, but that MTA happened be qmail which I built myself in
/usr/local. So from the point of view of
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 01:36:32AM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
* Kaa == Kaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kaa you don't know about it. My specific problem was solved by
Kaa downloading equivs and installing a fake package for an MTA, but
Kaa that looks and smells like a big kludge.
* Kaa == Kaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kaa you don't know about it. My specific problem was solved by
Kaa downloading equivs and installing a fake package for an MTA, but
Kaa that looks and smells like a big kludge.
Actually, I do not think so. Creating a dummy MTA package is a very
clean
Heh. My simple question about mutt grew into a whole philosophical
discussion of mail and dependency issues...
I'd like to remind people that my original problem was that I did have an
MTA installed, but that MTA happened be qmail which I built myself in
/usr/local. So from the point of view
Hi,
On Sat, 31 Jul, 1999 à 09:25:02AM -0600, John Galt wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Mark Brown wrote:
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:25:25PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
This would be more of an arguement for a MTA being a priority:required
rather than a Depends: on an Extra package. The
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 10:22:07AM -0600, John Galt wrote:
to check my POPmail until I rebuilt the system :( ). As for a MUA that
doesn't require a MTA not being a useful solution for many users, look at
the popularity of fetchmail, a MTA that is mostly for grabbing POP mail:
I wouldn't
What's the harm in having an MTA installed even if you don't use it? It
doesn't interfere. Actually, a few system tasks depend on having an MTA;
cron will email you the text output (if any) of your cron jobs, for
example. I think a unix system without an MTA would be broken.
This is correct.
On 30 Jul, Carl Mummert wrote:
| This is correct. There are lots of programs/scripts that call either
| /usr/lib/sendmail or /usr/bin/mail when they want to send an email message.
|
Several programs come to mind. For instance, cron!
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Eric G. Miller
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On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 10:22:07AM -0600, John Galt wrote:
to check my POPmail until I rebuilt the system :( ). As for a MUA that
doesn't require a MTA not being a useful solution for many users, look at
the popularity of fetchmail, a MTA that is
This would be more of an arguement for a MTA being a priority:required
rather than a Depends: on an Extra package. The other question that this
begs is: Do these other packages that call sendmail depend on a MTA? Not
RECOMMEND, but DEPEND--if not, why the disparity? BTW you're right that a
MTA
I don't feel strongly enough about this topic to reply to each of your
points. I agree that some MUAs (specifically pine and netscape) are
operable without a local MTA. I do not see that this warrants any
action ie modification of packages. For most users, an MTA is required.
I would consider a
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
I don't feel strongly enough about this topic to reply to each of your
points. I agree that some MUAs (specifically pine and netscape) are
operable without a local MTA. I do not see that this warrants any
action ie modification of packages. For most
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:59:08PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
I don't feel strongly enough about this topic to reply to each of your
points. I agree that some MUAs (specifically pine and netscape) are
operable without a local MTA. I do not see that
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:25:25PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
This would be more of an arguement for a MTA being a priority:required
rather than a Depends: on an Extra package. The other question that this
There are a selection of MTAs. No given one of them is required, it's
just that you ought
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Mark Brown wrote:
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:25:25PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
This would be more of an arguement for a MTA being a priority:required
rather than a Depends: on an Extra package. The other question that this
There are a selection of MTAs. No given one
On 31 Jul, Mark Brown wrote:
For MUAs which send mail by calling sendmail, it is pretty much a
dependancy.
But you do not *need* the sendmail package installed. exim, for
instance, is almost 100% sendmail compatible and listens to all common
sendmail commands.
--
Mark Brown
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 12:36:03PM -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
On 31 Jul, Mark Brown wrote:
For MUAs which send mail by calling sendmail, it is pretty much a
dependancy.
But you do not *need* the sendmail package installed. exim, for
instance, is almost 100% sendmail compatible and
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 09:25:02AM -0600, John Galt wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Mark Brown wrote:
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:25:25PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
This would be more of an arguement for a MTA being a priority:required
rather than a Depends: on an Extra package. The other
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:06:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 12:27:57PM -0500, Stephen Pitts wrote:
It still needs an MTA to send mail :-)
Not necessarily on the same machine. Imho no mua should bepend on amta,
just recommend. Dselect will make you install
Pine can do quite well with the MTA on a remote machine as well (simply
set the smtp server in setup/config), so let's not throw this on Messenger
only, real MUAs have the capability to check POP/IMAP mail without a local
copy of a MTA as well. IIRC you could use elm to check POP mail without a
Hi
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 10:09:51PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:06:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 12:27:57PM -0500, Stephen Pitts wrote:
It still needs an MTA to send mail :-)
Not necessarily on the same machine. Imho no mua
I have qmail running as an MTA on my potato system. I think I didn't get it
as a .deb (probably because there isn't one? I am not sure), and just
downloaded it and installed in /usr/local. Well, yesterday I tried 'apt-get
install mutt' and guess what? apt refused to download mutt because it
Kaa == \[ Kaa \] Kaa writes:
Kaa [...] apt refused to download mutt because it depends on a
Kaa mail-transfer-agent and such a beast was not to be found in
Kaa dpkg's database. I've tried persuading apt [...] So, can
Kaa somebody tell me how to persuade apt to let me use mutt
*- On 26 Jul, [ Kaa ] wrote about Mutt dependency on an MTA
I have qmail running as an MTA on my potato system. I think I didn't get it
as a .deb (probably because there isn't one? I am not sure), and just
downloaded it and installed in /usr/local. Well, yesterday I tried 'apt-get
install
For a quick and easy solution, grab
the qmail-src and ucspi-tcp-src packages
from non-free and build debian packages
for you.
--
Stephen Pitts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 02:55:48PM +, Kaa wrote:
Hello,
This is a slightly off thread post, but relavent.
I am new to mutt butt I am under the imression that mutt will handle pop
queries directly. If I am wrong tell me, and I will go back to my hole.
Any way the following got my attention;
Subject: Mutt dependency on an MTA
Date: Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 02:55:48PM +
In reply to: Kaa
Quoting Kaa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I have qmail running as an MTA on my potato system. I think I didn't get it
as a .deb (probably because there isn't one? I am not sure), and just
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:37:21AM -0400, esoR ocsirF wrote:
I am new to mutt butt I am under the imression that mutt will handle pop
queries directly. If I am wrong tell me, and I will go back to my hole.
Any way the following got my attention;
Yes, it can, but piping it through fetchmail and
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 02:55:48PM +, Kaa wrote:
install mutt' and guess what? apt refused to download mutt because it
depends on a mail-transfer-agent and such a beast was not to be found in
dpkg's database. I've tried persuading apt in a variety of ways, but it
It's a virtual
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 12:27:57PM -0500, Stephen Pitts wrote:
It still needs an MTA to send mail :-)
Not necessarily on the same machine. Imho no mua should bepend on amta,
just recommend. Dselect will make you install recommends anyway, but
apt-get doesn't.(I think)
--
Stephen Pitts
It still needs an MTA to send mail :-)
Not necessarily on the same machine.
How does the mail get to the other machine? Via an MTA.
Carl
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