>Heh. My simple question about mutt grew into a whole philosophical
>discussion of mail and dependency issues...
>
>I'd like to remind people that my original problem was that I did have an
>MTA installed, but that MTA happened be qmail which I built myself in
>/usr/local. So from the point of view
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 01:36:32AM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> * "Kaa" == Kaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kaa> you don't know about it. My specific problem was solved by
> Kaa> downloading equivs and installing a fake package for an MTA, but
> Kaa> that looks and smells like a big kludge
* "Kaa" == Kaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kaa> you don't know about it. My specific problem was solved by
Kaa> downloading equivs and installing a fake package for an MTA, but
Kaa> that looks and smells like a big kludge.
Actually, I do not think so. Creating a dummy MTA package is a very
clean
Heh. My simple question about mutt grew into a whole philosophical
discussion of mail and dependency issues...
I'd like to remind people that my original problem was that I did have an
MTA installed, but that MTA happened be qmail which I built myself in
/usr/local. So from the point of view o
Hi,
On Sat, 31 Jul, 1999 à 09:25:02AM -0600, John Galt wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Mark Brown wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:25:25PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
> >
> > > This would be more of an arguement for a MTA being a priority:required
> > > rather than a Depends: on an Extra packag
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 09:25:02AM -0600, John Galt wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:25:25PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
> > > This would be more of an arguement for a MTA being a priority:required
> > > rather than a Depends: on an Extra package. The oth
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 12:36:03PM -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> On 31 Jul, Mark Brown wrote:
> > For MUAs which send mail by calling sendmail, it is pretty much a
> > dependancy.
> But you do not *need* the sendmail package installed. exim, for
> instance, is almost 100% sendmail compatible
On 31 Jul, Mark Brown wrote:
>
> For MUAs which send mail by calling sendmail, it is pretty much a
> dependancy.
>
But you do not *need* the sendmail package installed. exim, for
instance, is almost 100% sendmail compatible and listens to all common
sendmail commands.
> --
> Mark Brown mailt
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:25:25PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
>
> > This would be more of an arguement for a MTA being a priority:required
> > rather than a Depends: on an Extra package. The other question that this
>
> There are a selection of MTAs. No gi
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:25:25PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
> This would be more of an arguement for a MTA being a priority:required
> rather than a Depends: on an Extra package. The other question that this
There are a selection of MTAs. No given one of them is required, it's
just that you ough
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:59:08PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> > I don't feel strongly enough about this topic to reply to each of your
> > points. I agree that some MUAs (specifically pine and netscape) are
> > operable without a local MTA. I do not se
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> I don't feel strongly enough about this topic to reply to each of your
> points. I agree that some MUAs (specifically pine and netscape) are
> operable without a local MTA. I do not see that this warrants any
> action ie modification of packages. For mo
I don't feel strongly enough about this topic to reply to each of your
points. I agree that some MUAs (specifically pine and netscape) are
operable without a local MTA. I do not see that this warrants any
action ie modification of packages. For most users, an MTA is required.
I would consider a UN
This would be more of an arguement for a MTA being a priority:required
rather than a Depends: on an Extra package. The other question that this
begs is: Do these other packages that call sendmail depend on a MTA? Not
RECOMMEND, but DEPEND--if not, why the disparity? BTW you're right that a
MTA i
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 10:22:07AM -0600, John Galt wrote:
> > to check my POPmail until I rebuilt the system :( ). As for a MUA that
> > doesn't require a MTA not being a useful solution for many users, look at
> > the popularity of fetchmail, a MTA t
On 30 Jul, Carl Mummert wrote:
| This is correct. There are lots of programs/scripts that call either
| /usr/lib/sendmail or /usr/bin/mail when they want to send an email message.
|
Several programs come to mind. For instance, cron!
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>What's the harm in having an MTA installed even if you don't use it? It
>doesn't interfere. Actually, a few system tasks depend on having an MTA;
>cron will email you the text output (if any) of your cron jobs, for
>example. I think a unix system without an MTA would be broken.
>
This is correct
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 10:22:07AM -0600, John Galt wrote:
> to check my POPmail until I rebuilt the system :( ). As for a MUA that
> doesn't require a MTA not being a useful solution for many users, look at
> the popularity of fetchmail, a MTA that is mostly for grabbing POP mail:
I wouldn't cla
Hi
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 10:09:51PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:06:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 12:27:57PM -0500, Stephen Pitts wrote:
> > > It still needs an MTA to send mail :-)
> > Not necessarily on the same machine. Imho no m
Pine can do quite well with the MTA on a remote machine as well (simply
set the smtp server in setup/config), so let's not throw this on Messenger
only, real MUAs have the capability to check POP/IMAP mail without a local
copy of a MTA as well. IIRC you could use elm to check POP mail without a
l
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:06:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 12:27:57PM -0500, Stephen Pitts wrote:
> > It still needs an MTA to send mail :-)
> Not necessarily on the same machine. Imho no mua should bepend on amta,
> just recommend. Dselect will make you install re
>> It still needs an MTA to send mail :-)
>Not necessarily on the same machine.
How does the mail get to the other machine? Via an MTA.
Carl
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 12:27:57PM -0500, Stephen Pitts wrote:
> It still needs an MTA to send mail :-)
Not necessarily on the same machine. Imho no mua should bepend on amta,
just recommend. Dselect will make you install recommends anyway, but
apt-get doesn't.(I think)
>
> --
> Stephen Pitts
>
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 02:55:48PM +, Kaa " wrote:
> install mutt' and guess what? apt refused to download mutt because it
> depends on a "mail-transfer-agent" and such a beast was not to be found in
> dpkg's database. I've tried persuading apt in a variety of ways, but it
It's a virtual
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 08:37:21AM -0400, esoR ocsirF wrote:
> I am new to mutt butt I am under the imression that mutt will handle pop
> queries directly. If I am wrong tell me, and I will go back to my hole.
> Any way the following got my attention;
Yes, it can, but piping it through fetchmail an
Subject: Mutt dependency on an MTA
Date: Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 02:55:48PM +
In reply to: Kaa "
Quoting Kaa "([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I have qmail running as an MTA on my potato system. I think I didn't get it
> as a .deb (probably because there isn'
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 02:55:48PM +, Kaa " wrote:
Hello,
This is a slightly off thread post, but relavent.
I am new to mutt butt I am under the imression that mutt will handle pop
queries directly. If I am wrong tell me, and I will go back to my hole.
Any way the following got my attention;
For a quick and easy solution, grab
the qmail-src and ucspi-tcp-src packages
from non-free and build debian packages
for you.
--
Stephen Pitts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
*- On 26 Jul, [ Kaa ] wrote about "Mutt dependency on an MTA"
> I have qmail running as an MTA on my potato system. I think I didn't get it
> as a .deb (probably because there isn't one? I am not sure), and just
> downloaded it and installed in /usr/local. Wel
> "Kaa" == \[ Kaa \] writes:
Kaa> [...] apt refused to download mutt because it depends on a
Kaa> "mail-transfer-agent" and such a beast was not to be found in
Kaa> dpkg's database. I've tried persuading apt [...] So, can
Kaa> somebody tell me how to persuade apt to let me use
I have qmail running as an MTA on my potato system. I think I didn't get it
as a .deb (probably because there isn't one? I am not sure), and just
downloaded it and installed in /usr/local. Well, yesterday I tried 'apt-get
install mutt' and guess what? apt refused to download mutt because it
dep
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