Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:46:38AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:31:50AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: ... I've been a "computer user" since before Mr. Torvalds was born. I just never had reason to have contact with *nix. Even when working for DE

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:46:38AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:31:50AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > ... > > I've been a "computer user" since before Mr. Torvalds was born. I > > just never had reason to have contact with *nix. Even when working > > for DEC I was

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,I thought about different approach ... Since On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:46:38AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:31:50AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > ... > > I've been a "computer user" since before Mr. Torvalds was born. I > > just never had reason to have con

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:31:50AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: ... > I've been a "computer user" since before Mr. Torvalds was born. I > just never had reason to have contact with *nix. Even when working > for DEC I was much more into analog than digital. I see. I guess you were a VMS or so

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-17 Thread Richard Owlett
Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 01:53:47PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: Terho Uotila wrote: Unless you want to try very minimal system you probably want shadow passwords. I do not understand. Going by text displayed during the installation I had the impression that shadow pass

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-16 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 01:53:47PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Terho Uotila wrote: > >Unless you want to try very minimal system you probably want shadow > >passwords. > > I do not understand. > Going by text displayed during the installation I had the > impression that shadow passwords w

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-16 Thread Richard Owlett
Terho Uotila wrote: Unless you want to try very minimal system you probably want shadow passwords. I do not understand. Going by text displayed during the installation I had the impression that shadow passwords were for those overly paranoid about supposed incremental security advantages. My

Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-16 Thread Terho Uotila
Unless you want to try very minimal system you probably want shadow passwords. On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:04:21 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > 2. Did not enable shadow passwords > (...) > 3. Attempted "su", neither root nor user password accepted You may have hit a bug. I noticed a problem with disab

Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-15 Thread Richard Owlett
Richard Owlett wrote: I've been doing a series of Debian installs over the last several months. YES. There are easier ways to do things. *BUT* my purpose is _educational_ rather than "efficiency" ;) I have a history of problems with the root password not being recognized. If the problem *DOES*

Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Brian wrote in previous post: The sudo package is installed and the user added to group sudo. If >"apt-get install gdm3" installed gd3 this is either a misobservetion >or the discovery of a massive security problem. I'm beginning to suspect "massive security problem." I'm going have to create

Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-18 Thread Brian
On Thu 18 Oct 2012 at 11:32:49 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Brian wrote: > >On Wed 17 Oct 2012 at 21:05:00 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > >>On Mi, 17 oct 12, 12:22:48, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>> > >>>When rebooting into "Rescue Mode", the last two lines displayed are: > >>>sulogin: root acc

Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Brian wrote: On Wed 17 Oct 2012 at 21:05:00 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 17 oct 12, 12:22:48, Richard Owlett wrote: When rebooting into "Rescue Mode", the last two lines displayed are: sulogin: root account is locked, starting shell root@localhost:~# At this point I'm allowed to do "a

Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 17 Oct 2012 at 21:05:00 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 17 oct 12, 12:22:48, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > When rebooting into "Rescue Mode", the last two lines displayed are: > > sulogin: root account is locked, starting shell > > root@localhost:~# > > > > At this point I'm allowed

Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-17 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... > When rebooting into "Rescue Mode", the last two lines > displayed are: > sulogin: root account is locked, starting shell > root@localhost:~# > > At this point I'm allowed to do "apt-get install xyz" - no > password required. > > > Comments, questions, suggestions?

Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 17 oct 12, 12:22:48, Richard Owlett wrote: > > When rebooting into "Rescue Mode", the last two lines displayed are: > sulogin: root account is locked, starting shell > root@localhost:~# > > At this point I'm allowed to do "apt-get install xyz" - no password > required. > > Comments, quest

Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-17 Thread Richard Owlett
I've been doing a series of Debian installs over the last several months. YES. There are easier ways to do things. *BUT* my purpose is _educational_ rather than "efficiency" ;) I have a history of problems with the root password not being recognized. If the problem *DOES* occur on a individ