Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-27 Thread Pollywog
On 07/26/2005 08:36 pm, Dick Davies wrote: > > Maybe I've got completely the wrong end of the stick and if so I apologize, > but if someone asked me how to edit word docs in linux and i said 'vi', I'd > be being an ass (which is of course my right as a member of the human race, > but I wouldn't pr

MS Office 12 format (was Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'')

2005-07-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 21:45 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 01:53:19AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 23:06 -0500, Kent West wrote: > > > Carl Fink wrote: > > > >On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 04:35:50AM +0200, Anders Breindahl wrote: > > [snip] > > > >and Microso

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking''

2005-07-26 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 01:53:19AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 23:06 -0500, Kent West wrote: > > Carl Fink wrote: > > >On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 04:35:50AM +0200, Anders Breindahl wrote: > [snip] > > >and Microsoft's reaction was to announce that the next version of MS Office >

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-26 Thread Dick Davies
* Anders Breindahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [0723 19:23]: > On Tuesday 26 July 2005 17:46, Dick Davies wrote: > > The OP asked 'how do I read MS Project files', and the response was: > > 'use less, hur hur' > > > > That's not newbie bashing, that's trying to be funny and sounding like an > > ass >

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-26 Thread Anders Breindahl
On Tuesday 26 July 2005 17:46, Dick Davies wrote: > The OP asked 'how do I read MS Project files', and the response was: > 'use less, hur hur' > > That's not newbie bashing, that's trying to be funny and sounding like an > ass Now I must protest; you have gotten it all wrong. I attempted to ki

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-26 Thread Josh Battles
Hal Vaughan said: > On Tuesday 26 July 2005 11:04 am, Josh Battles wrote: >> Hal Vaughan said: >> > We can use whatever excuse we want, but I've found that the way clueless >> > newbies are treated on this list is just plain rotten. There are polite >> > ways to say RTFM, but it seems to many are

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 26 July 2005 11:04 am, Josh Battles wrote: > Hal Vaughan said: > > We can use whatever excuse we want, but I've found that the way clueless > > newbies are treated on this list is just plain rotten. There are polite > > ways to say RTFM, but it seems to many are in a hurry to shout RTFM

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-26 Thread Dick Davies
* Josh Battles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [0705 16:05]: > Hal Vaughan said: > > > > We can use whatever excuse we want, but I've found that the way clueless > > newbies are treated on this list is just plain rotten. There are polite > > ways > > to say RTFM, but it seems to many are in a hurry to shout

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-26 Thread Martin McCormick
"Josh Battles" writes: >Another list I'm on is *brutal* about that. If you pose a newbie question, >the responses you get (if you're lucky enough to get a response) are either >"RTFM" or "check the archives." This list isn't all that bad in comparison. It really isn't, but we are all new

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-26 Thread Josh Battles
Hal Vaughan said: > > We can use whatever excuse we want, but I've found that the way clueless > newbies are treated on this list is just plain rotten. There are polite ways > to say RTFM, but it seems to many are in a hurry to shout RTFMA and excuse > themselves as "just trying to tell them what

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking''

2005-07-26 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 01:53:19AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 23:06 -0500, Kent West wrote: > > Carl Fink wrote: > > >On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 04:35:50AM +0200, Anders Breindahl wrote: > [snip] > > >and Microsoft's reaction was to announce that the next version of MS Office >

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking''

2005-07-26 Thread Doofus
Joel Peter William Pitt wrote: Ok, this is my first foray into debian-user and this behaviour doesn't impress me. I'm not a newbie, I've been using debian for the past 6 years after changing from redhat. Did you actually bother to find anything out about MS Project? If it is indeed in clear tex

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking''

2005-07-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 23:06 -0500, Kent West wrote: > Carl Fink wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 04:35:50AM +0200, Anders Breindahl wrote: [snip] > >and Microsoft's reaction was to announce that the next version of MS Office > >will use the same zipped-XML format that OO uses. > > > > > Again, I

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking''

2005-07-25 Thread Michael Z Daryabeygi
Anders Breindahl wrote: On Tuesday 26 July 2005 03:54, Michael Z Daryabeygi wrote: Anders Breindahl wrote: Have you tried `less`? Why are you picking on (perceived?) newbies? That's not funny. I'm pretty sure he needs more functionality than that. And I know from his other thread that he

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking''

2005-07-25 Thread Kent West
Carl Fink wrote: >On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 04:35:50AM +0200, Anders Breindahl wrote: > > >>I am also sorry to announce, that I am one of those, who will be ``jumping >>down peoples' throats'' in the case of not keeping to the net-etiquette. >> >> >Correct people, fine, but that's different

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 25 July 2005 11:21 pm, Carl Fink wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 04:35:50AM +0200, Anders Breindahl wrote: > > I am also sorry to announce, that I am one of those, who will be > > ``jumping down peoples' throats'' in the case of not keeping to the > > net-etiquette. > > Stop it. > > I've

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-25 Thread Carl Fink
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 04:35:50AM +0200, Anders Breindahl wrote: > I am also sorry to announce, that I am one of those, who will be ``jumping > down peoples' throats'' in the case of not keeping to the net-etiquette. Stop it. I've done that, but I've always regretted it. Correct people, fine

Re: OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-25 Thread Joel Peter William Pitt
Ok, this is my first foray into debian-user and this behaviour doesn't impress me. I'm not a newbie, I've been using debian for the past 6 years after changing from redhat. Did you actually bother to find anything out about MS Project? If it is indeed in clear text then 'less' is a useful suggesti

OT: In defence of ``newbie-picking'' (was:Re: MS Project 2003)

2005-07-25 Thread Anders Breindahl
On Tuesday 26 July 2005 03:54, Michael Z Daryabeygi wrote: > Anders Breindahl wrote: > > Have you tried `less`? > > Why are you picking on (perceived?) newbies? That's not funny. > I'm pretty sure he needs more functionality than that. > And I know from his other thread that he is doing his best to