off topic: http expires header and page info in firefox

2005-07-20 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
hello, (apologies for off topic) i am trying to get a cgi to be expired using the http 'expires' header. below is a simple cgi file: #!/usr/bin/perl print "Content-type: text/html\n"; print "Expires: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:04:19 GMT\n"; print "\n"; print &

Re: Slightly off topic..

2005-06-05 Thread =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rog=E9rio?= Brito
On Jun 05 2005, Paul Johnson wrote: > The list is open, though you might want to add a couple rules to > /etc/spamassassin/local.cf (...) Thanks for the rules. I will surely be checking them. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package

Re: Slightly off topic..

2005-06-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday June 5 2005 5:57 am, Bill Day wrote: > I notice a lot of spam messges in here for software, pills, etc, > that sneak through my spam assassin and wind up in my Debian folder > via filters, however the same spam messages that get filtered to > the Debian mailing list end up in my trash whe

Slightly off topic..

2005-06-05 Thread Bill Day
I notice a lot of spam messges in here for software, pills, etc, that sneak through my spam assassin and wind up in my Debian folder via filters, however the same spam messages that get filtered to the Debian mailing list end up in my trash when they come directly to me? Is there a sort of "spa

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2005-01-04 Thread Christopher Judd
On 3 Jan, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] >> Wrong. Natural uranium is >99% U238, with trace amounts of U235 >> and U235. The latter two species have much higher specific activities, >> which is why they are useful for reactors/bombs. Depleted uranium is >> what's left over after the U235 a

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2005-01-03 Thread Wim De Smet
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:37:17 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 10:13 -0500, Christopher Judd wrote: > > On 29 Dec, dorn hetzel wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:48:56AM -0800, bandito wrote: > > >> i think they'd be used more as an environmental contaminant

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2005-01-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 10:01 -0500, Christopher Judd wrote: > On 29 Dec, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > > On Tuesday 28 December 2004 08:28 pm, Sam Watkins wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] > Wrong. Natural uranium is >99% U238, with trace amounts of

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2005-01-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 10:13 -0500, Christopher Judd wrote: > On 29 Dec, dorn hetzel wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:48:56AM -0800, bandito wrote: > >> i think they'd be used more as an environmental contaminant than > >> something intended to actually cause death... setting off a big one in a

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2005-01-03 Thread Christopher Judd
On 29 Dec, dorn hetzel wrote: > On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:48:56AM -0800, bandito wrote: >> i think they'd be used more as an environmental contaminant than >> something intended to actually cause death... setting off a big one in a >> city wouldnt kill THAT many people, but it'd keep them out of t

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2005-01-03 Thread Christopher Judd
On 29 Dec, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > On Tuesday 28 December 2004 08:28 pm, Sam Watkins wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >> > >The worst "terrorist" is America, with your depleted uranium >> > >"dirty-bombs" which you throw around at every opportunity, > > A

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread Nayyar Ahmed
Hello All, The religion is the holy belive, which give all human inner satisfaction, no metter who is beliving which one. But the way you people are making other disgrace is not like Respected people do. I think every body should find his/her own way instead of looking and saying, that one is w

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread Pascal Bonesh
Hi, I wholeheartedly disagree with anyone trying to construct a difference between book A and book B when they are just the same, and unspeakable things have been done in both books name and still are in the name of both books. And I also disagree at least as much when I see actions carried out by

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 08:49 +0100, Pascal Bonesh wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 21:26 -0500, William Ballard wrote: > [snip] > > What a wonderful world it would be if all people would just throw away > their holy books and start thinking and acting as humans. But "man created God in his own imag

Re: [[offlist] Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-29 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Syed Huq wrote: Then why do early verses in the Quran say that Jews and Christians (people of the Book) or OK and can continue practicing their religion and later say that they must be converted? That would seem like a contradiction to me. The Quran considers Jews and Christians as people of the

Re: [[offlist] Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-29 Thread Syed Huq
> Then why do early verses in the Quran say that Jews and Christians > (people of the Book) or OK and can continue practicing their > religion and later say that they must be converted? That would > seem like a contradiction to me. > The Quran considers Jews and Christians as people of the Book

[[offlist] Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-29 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Syed Huq wrote: The Muslims believe in a conecpt of "nullification" (I forget the correct term) that essentially states that later verses in the Quran that contradict with earlier verses, contradict or "trump" the earlier verses. Read the book I mention above and you will see what I mean. The Qura

Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-29 Thread Syed Huq
> > The Muslims believe in a conecpt of "nullification" (I forget the > correct term) that essentially states that later verses in the Quran > that contradict with earlier verses, contradict or "trump" the earlier > verses. Read the book I mention above and you will see what I mean. > The Quran d

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread Wim De Smet
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 08:45:06 -0600, Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 08:49 +0100, Pascal Bonesh wrote: > --snip-- > > What a wonderful world it would be if all people would just throw away > > their holy books and start thinking and acting as humans. > > Bravo! I

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-29 Thread bandito
agreed, the intended effect of DU rounds versus dirty bombs are quite different. but while it certainly may be easier to clean up than other more common contaminants, i think the people who live in the areas where we're firing this stuff are pretty content to let it sit there and have their kids mu

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread David P James
On Wed 29 December 2004 02:49, Pascal Bonesh wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 21:26 -0500, William Ballard wrote: > > > > > Your religious-right-wing crap belongs off-list, this is about debian > and linux. It would if he had written any, but so does your willfully-ignorant-left-wing crap. > > I

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-29 Thread dorn hetzel
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:48:56AM -0800, bandito wrote: > i think they'd be used more as an environmental contaminant than > something intended to actually cause death... setting off a big one in a > city wouldnt kill THAT many people, but it'd keep them out of the > contaminated area until the ra

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-29 Thread bandito
i think they'd be used more as an environmental contaminant than something intended to actually cause death... setting off a big one in a city wouldnt kill THAT many people, but it'd keep them out of the contaminated area until the radioactive material was cleaned up (or a few millions years passes

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 08:49:19AM +0100, Pascal Bonesh wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 21:26 -0500, William Ballard wrote: > > > > > Your religious-right-wing crap belongs off-list, this is about debian > and linux. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. I read the book, and made some observ

Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-29 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 12:08 +0800, Katipo wrote: --snip-- > Take the time to sit down and watch a sunset sometime, then chuck the > book away. > Regards, Amen to that! :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my publ

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 08:49 +0100, Pascal Bonesh wrote: --snip-- > What a wonderful world it would be if all people would just throw away > their holy books and start thinking and acting as humans. Bravo! I second that wholeheartedly! -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-29 Thread Brendan
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 22:47, Ron Johnson wrote: > What's as effective as DU at piercing modern armor? This was my question as well. I mean, DU is so damn heavy, and that's what makes it amazing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Cont

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-29 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 08:28 pm, Sam Watkins wrote: > On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > >The worst "terrorist" is America, with your depleted uranium > > >"dirty-bombs" which you throw around at every opportunity, A dirty bomb is a nuclear device designed to kill

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Pascal Bonesh
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 21:26 -0500, William Ballard wrote: Your religious-right-wing crap belongs off-list, this is about debian and linux. I can understand how people cannot let statements like yours, full of prejudice and racism, stand not contradicted - tolerance is good, except towards the

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 11:58:38AM +0800, Katipo wrote: > William Ballard wrote: > It does have one or two negative references to Jews, as I have already said. > I can not recall anything negative in regard to Christians. > Please provide a reference. I didn't record the passage, and I don't want

Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-28 Thread Katipo
Sam Watkins wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:22:30AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > The difference is this: > > 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with > the teachings of Mohammed and Islam. 2. Christians who commit > terrorist acts are in direct opposition to the Bible a

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Katipo
William Ballard wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 12:44:21PM +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 04:00:22PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > >> I read the Koran after 9/11 and found some bits very hostile to >> Christianity and Jews. The basic plot is: God used to like Jews, >> now he

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 22:08 -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Sam Watkins wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > >>>The worst "terrorist" is America, with your depleted uranium > >>>"dirty-bombs" which you throw around at every opportunity, > >> > >>Cite? Ou

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Katipo
William Ballard wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:17:47AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 09:22 -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: --snip-- > >> The difference is this: >> >> 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with >> the teachings of Mohammed and Islam. I

Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Sam Watkins wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:22:30AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: The difference is this: 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the teachings of Mohammed and Islam. 2. Christians who commit terrorist acts are in direct opposition to the Bible and the Wo

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Sam Watkins wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: The worst "terrorist" is America, with your depleted uranium "dirty-bombs" which you throw around at every opportunity, Cite? Outside of Hiroshima and Nagasaki I don't recall a detonation of any atomic or nuclear

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
ABrady wrote: I don't care about the OT stuff, except when it goes political. It sickens me that so much uninformed claptrap is spewed based solely on emotion, lack of coherent thought, and on complete and utter sheep mentality. It wasn't that the topic had gone OT on the other list I left, it was

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 12:44:21PM +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 04:00:22PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > > I read the Koran after 9/11 and found some bits very hostile to > > Christianity and Jews. The basic plot is: God used to like Jews, now > > he doesn't because they m

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread ABrady
Click on Configuration > Click on Filtering > Click on "Define" on the Condition line. > Match type: Subject > Value: \[OT\]|\[.*off topic.8\] > Predicte: Contains > Check "use regexp" > Add > Ok > Define on the action line > Delete > Add >

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Sam Watkins
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 04:00:22PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > I read the Koran after 9/11 and found some bits very hostile to > Christianity and Jews. The basic plot is: God used to like Jews, now > he doesn't because they messed up. God used to like Christians, now > he doesn't because they

Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-28 Thread Sam Watkins
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:22:30AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > The difference is this: > > 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the > teachings of Mohammed and Islam. > 2. Christians who commit terrorist acts are in direct opposition to > the Bible and the Word of

Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-28 Thread Sam Watkins
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > >The worst "terrorist" is America, with your depleted uranium > >"dirty-bombs" which you throw around at every opportunity, > > Cite? Outside of Hiroshima and Nagasaki I don't recall a > detonation of any atomic or nuclear dev

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Steve Lamb
ABrady wrote: I came here to read, and maybe ask questions or provide answers, about linux. Anybody know anything about that? Sure. And to answer your question... Click on Configuration Click on Filtering Click on "Define" on the Condition line. Match type: Subject Value: \[OT\]|\[.

Re: [Way off topic] babble babble bubble

2004-12-28 Thread John Hasler
Please stop changing the subject of this thread. It makes it hard to keep it killfiled. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread ABrady
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:02:44 -0600 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, folks; perhaps it's time to start tapering off (or quitting > cold-turkey) with this very off-topic, non-Debian-related thread? > > -- > Kent Amen! I already unsubscribed from one gr

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:17:47AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 09:22 -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > --snip-- > > The difference is this: > > > > 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the > > teachings of Mohammed and Islam. > > 2. Christians w

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Pascal Bonesh
Hi, To people who try to construct a "my book is better than your book" difference. As well as to those trying to construct a difference between "people killing innocents" (aka terrorists) and "people wearing a uniform killing innocents" (aka soldiers): Try fortune -m tolerance... Pascal --

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Wim De Smet
I'm gonna cut some passages here to get to the most outrageous first. On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:39:51 -0800, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wim De Smet wrote: > > Calling people islamic terrorists is about the same as claiming that > > Islam is responsible for their actions. > > Facts

Re: [Way off topic] babble babble bubble

2004-12-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 23:00 +, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: [snip] > > And whose fault are those wars? > > Easy, european powers in the 16 and 17th centuries which have drawn > borders with a ruler without really caring about mixing ethnic genres > within the same country. Go sue my > great-gre

Re: [Way off topic] babble babble bubble

2004-12-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 11:23 am, Steve Lamb wrote: > Like I said, where's the pipeline in Afghanistan? Remember > Afghanistan was supposed to be for oil as well. In fact pretty much > every military action by the US is for oil interests yet, oddly > enough, no oil interests ever develop

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 10:16 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto Sanchez wrote: > >>> I agree that the Q'uran contradicts itself numerous times, but there is > >>> no evidence of such thing in the Bible. Care to back up your statement? > > Y'know, I was going to pick a few examples but after a

Re: [Way off topic] babble babble bubble

2004-12-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Let me guess... from iraq? Oh, don't think so... why invade it then? Because of WMDs? nope... Already covered. So nice of you to snip it all. Riiight... when it's the others, it's for some oil scam, but when it's the USA, it's out of good heart. How could I not think

Re: [Way off topic] babble babble bubble

2004-12-28 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
Facts are facts. Outside of a few isolated incidents with the Irish where has the majority of terrorism come from in the past several decades? Hell, outside a few isolated Irish incidents where has *ALL* terrorism come from? Let me guess... from iraq? Oh, don't think so... why invade it th

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:39:51AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Wim De Smet wrote: > >Calling people islamic terrorists is about the same as claiming that > >Islam is responsible for their actions. > > Facts are facts. Outside of a few isolated incidents with the Irish > where has the majority

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Roberto Sanchez wrote: I agree that the Q'uran contradicts itself numerous times, but there is no evidence of such thing in the Bible. Care to back up your statement? Y'know, I was going to pick a few examples but after about 10 pages I decided just to give you the link to enjoy: http://www.

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 06:22 am, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > The difference is this: > > 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the > teachings of Mohammed and Islam. > 2. Christians who commit terrorist acts are in direct opposition to > the Bible and the Word of God

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Roberto Sanchez wrote: 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the teachings of Mohammed and Islam. Well not entirely true. While terrorism in and of itself is laid out there are rules to it. Rules like non-combatants are not to be harmed, innocents will be spar

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Wim De Smet wrote: Calling people islamic terrorists is about the same as claiming that Islam is responsible for their actions. Facts are facts. Outside of a few isolated incidents with the Irish where has the majority of terrorism come from in the past several decades? Hell, outside a few i

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Robert Parker
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 01:22, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > The difference is this: > > 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the > teachings of Mohammed and Islam. > 2. Christians who commit terrorist acts are in direct opposition to > the Bible and the Word of God.

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Kent West
Okay, folks; perhaps it's time to start tapering off (or quitting cold-turkey) with this very off-topic, non-Debian-related thread? -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread James Keasley
Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wim De Smet wrote: >> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:46:33 -0800, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>Sam Watkins wrote: >>> No. Terrorist isn't used enough. In fact "Islamic Terrorist" isn't >>> used >>>enough. People who behead other people w

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:40:33AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Ecclesiates 3:1-8 > >>>= bull > >>What do you think "a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;" means, > >>then? > >> > >>I agree that the Q'uran contradicts itself numerous times, but there is > >>no evidence of such thi

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 09:22 -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: --snip-- > The difference is this: > > 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the > teachings of Mohammed and Islam. > 2. Christians who commit terrorist acts are in direct opposition to > the Bible and the Word o

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Wim De Smet wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:16:01 -0500, Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Roberto Sanchez wrote: You missed on of the best: "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Wim De Smet wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:46:33 -0800, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sam Watkins wrote: No. Terrorist isn't used enough. In fact "Islamic Terrorist" isn't used enough. People who behead other people with a machete so those being beheaded Calling people islamic terror

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Wim De Smet
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:16:01 -0500, Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > > Roberto Sanchez wrote: > >> You missed on of the best: > >> > >> "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under > >> the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die;

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Roberto Sanchez wrote: You missed on of the best: "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Wim De Smet
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:46:33 -0800, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam Watkins wrote: > > In what way does "ubuntu.org" have a terrorist agenda? > > Or does pacifist equate to terrorist in your dictionary? > > When a pacifist defends those who behead innocents on video tape is there

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Robert Parker
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 22:39, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 11:39 +, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > > Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >> On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 09:02 +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > > >>> On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 03:42:09PM -0500, Eric d'Alibut wrote:

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 11:39 +, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 09:02 +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > >> > >>> On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 03:42:09PM -0500, Eric d'Alibut wrote: > >>> [snip] > This quote doesn't mention "a time t

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-27 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
In what way does "ubuntu.org" have a terrorist agenda? I mean dude, they use like a hippie name and they live in the country "africa". How can they not be terrorist-supporting weed smoking lefties? Or does pacifist equate to terrorist in your dictionary? Well, I seem to remember that Bus

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-27 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
Roberto Sanchez wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 09:02 +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 03:42:09PM -0500, Eric d'Alibut wrote: I don't have any idea what Shuttleworth's politics are, but he obviously does not hesitate to associate himself -- even if "only" semantica

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 19:05 -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Benjamin A'Lee wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > >>Russia - IIRC, Implicated in the same scam and/or sold arms to Saddam > >>for which he owed millions/billions on. They ha

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-27 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Benjamin A'Lee wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: Russia - IIRC, Implicated in the same scam and/or sold arms to Saddam for which he owed millions/billions on. They had a finacial interest in Iraq either way. If I remember correctly, the USA al

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-27 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 09:02 +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 03:42:09PM -0500, Eric d'Alibut wrote: I don't have any idea what Shuttleworth's politics are, but he obviously does not hesitate to associate himself -- even if "only" semantically -- with so-called r

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 22:57 +, Benjamin A'Lee wrote: > On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Russia - IIRC, Implicated in the same scam and/or sold arms to Saddam > > for which he owed millions/billions on. They had a finacial interest > > in

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-27 Thread Steve Lamb
Benjamin A'Lee wrote: If I remember correctly, the USA also supplied Iraq with weapons, when it was fighting Iran. And to the Taliban when it was fighting the USSR. How does that make the USA better than the rest of the world, exactly? It doesn't. Difference is we didn't let those past pract

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-27 Thread Benjamin A'Lee
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > Russia - IIRC, Implicated in the same scam and/or sold arms to Saddam > for which he owed millions/billions on. They had a finacial interest in > Iraq either way. If I remember correctly, the USA also supplied

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-27 Thread Steve Lamb
Sam Watkins wrote: In what way does "ubuntu.org" have a terrorist agenda? Or does pacifist equate to terrorist in your dictionary? When a pacifist defends those who behead innocents on video tape is there a difference? "Terrorist" has become such a bull-shit word. No. Terrorist isn't use

Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 09:02 +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 03:42:09PM -0500, Eric d'Alibut wrote: > > I don't have any idea what Shuttleworth's politics are, but he > > obviously does not hesitate to associate himself -- even if "only" > > semantically -- with so-called revolu

[Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-27 Thread Sam Watkins
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 03:42:09PM -0500, Eric d'Alibut wrote: > I don't have any idea what Shuttleworth's politics are, but he > obviously does not hesitate to associate himself -- even if "only" > semantically -- with so-called revolutionary movements known for their > terrorist agendas. In wha

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-17 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday 16 November 2004 23:59, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:09:25 -0500 > Michael Z Daryabeygi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The only thing that gets my goat on lists is when people complain > > about OT or ask people to take things off list. > > lists are first about comm

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-17 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 07:49:28PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Much. Let's have flamewars about things that _matter_. ^ ^ This is good! -| he he -- To UNSUB

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread Brian Pack
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 19:49 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > David Jardine writes: > > vi is the bee's knees. Sod emacs. aptitude is rubbish. Stick to > > apt-get. > > > Is that better? > > Much. Let's have flamewars about things that _matter_. Such as this: Sarge. D-I. Sarge. D-I. Think about it

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread John Hasler
David Jardine writes: > vi is the bee's knees. Sod emacs. aptitude is rubbish. Stick to > apt-get. > Is that better? Much. Let's have flamewars about things that _matter_. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAI

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread Michael Z Daryabeygi
i was speaking for myself and those who commented that they didn't mind. I really don't think Curt was trying to be divisive? Are we really so fickle? Am I really not going to seek your help or value your opinion on debian if I think you are a political dolt? Come on people.  I don't care what

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread David Jardine
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 05:47:43PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Inflammatory political comments are divisive, and those who post them know > it. vi is the bee's knees. Sod emacs. aptitude is rubbish. Stick to apt-get. Is that better? -- David Jardine "Running Debian GNU/Linux and loving e

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:09:25 -0500 Michael Z Daryabeygi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only thing that gets my goat on lists is when people complain > about OT or ask people to take things off list. > lists are first about community. I have been hoping this wouldn't pop up in here. I recently

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread John Hasler
Michael Z Daryabeygi writes: > lists are first about community. The value of spontaneous community > fosters the value in name. You can't have the latter without the former. Inflammatory political comments are divisive, and those who post them know it. > So now the community is biting back. Sp

Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread Michael Z Daryabeygi
the point you are missing will is that OT is not such an anathema to everyone as it is to you. The only thing that gets my goat on lists is when people complain about OT or ask people to take things off list. lists are first about community. The value of spontaneous community fosters the value

Re: Off-topic? X-Accept-Language: header

2004-11-12 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Mike White: > s. keeling wrote: > >Incoming from Mike White: > >[snip] > > > >Point of order: what is the point of that ten mile long > >"X-Accept-Language:" header of yours? Is there any plausible reason > > Funny story: I used to get all sorts of Mozilla dialog boxes coming up >

Re: Off-topic? X-Accept-Language: header

2004-11-12 Thread Mike White
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Mike White: [snip] Point of order: what is the point of that ten mile long "X-Accept-Language:" header of yours? Is there any plausible reason for all of that? Just wondering since I've never seen that done before, and you must be one primo linguist if all that's r

Off-topic? X-Accept-Language: header (was: [Debian] AMD 64 bit architecture)

2004-11-12 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Mike White: [snip] Point of order: what is the point of that ten mile long "X-Accept-Language:" header of yours? Is there any plausible reason for all of that? Just wondering since I've never seen that done before, and you must be one primo linguist if all that's real. -- Any t

Re: perhaps off-topic: mailserver requirements? (was: Re: experiences with Debian Alpha)

2004-11-11 Thread Stephen Patterson
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:50:10 +0100, Ron Johnson wrote: > Also, spamc 3.0 can be kinda slow (or mine isn't tuned that well). > Especially with Baysean filters turned on. bogofilter tends to run a lot leaner than spamassassin. -- Stephen Patterson http://patter.mine.nu/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] remove S

Re: perhaps off-topic: mailserver requirements? (was: Re: experiences with Debian Alpha)

2004-11-11 Thread Raquel Rice
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:35:15 +1030 David Purton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 01:43:57AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 00:26 -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > > Incoming from Steven Jones: > > > > > > > > I want to build a hi-speed sendmail/postfix gateway

Re: perhaps off-topic: mailserver requirements? (was: Re: experiences with Debian Alpha)

2004-11-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 00:57 -0700, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Ron Johnson: > > On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 00:26 -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > > Incoming from Steven Jones: > [snip] > > What's the mail volume? > > With %60 - %80 of traffic Spam, does _real_ mail volume matter? Of course it does.

Re: perhaps off-topic: mailserver requirements? (was: Re: experiences with Debian Alpha)

2004-11-11 Thread David Purton
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 01:43:57AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 00:26 -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > Incoming from Steven Jones: > > > > > > I want to build a hi-speed sendmail/postfix gateway with clamav if I > > > > That's an interesting point. Long ago and far away, it used

Re: perhaps off-topic: mailserver requirements? (was: Re: experiences with Debian Alpha)

2004-11-10 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Ron Johnson: > On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 00:26 -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > Incoming from Steven Jones: > > > > > > I want to build a hi-speed sendmail/postfix gateway with clamav if I > > > > That's an interesting point. Long ago and far away, it used to be a > > given that any old x8

Re: perhaps off-topic: mailserver requirements? (was: Re: experiences with Debian Alpha)

2004-11-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 00:26 -0700, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Steven Jones: > > > > I want to build a hi-speed sendmail/postfix gateway with clamav if I > > That's an interesting point. Long ago and far away, it used to be a > given that any old x86 box with a big enough disk would be mor

perhaps off-topic: mailserver requirements? (was: Re: experiences with Debian Alpha)

2004-11-10 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Steven Jones: > > I want to build a hi-speed sendmail/postfix gateway with clamav if I That's an interesting point. Long ago and far away, it used to be a given that any old x86 box with a big enough disk would be more than enough to handle just about anything a mailserver needed t

Re: off-topic, but skills in Linux are important

2004-07-30 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 06:54, nx13372 wrote: > Hi all, > since in Linux it's so easy to control de layer 3 of the tpc/ip with > netfilter, i was wondering if it's possible to create a program that > runs on Microsft XP and (to start) change the TTL on the header of each > packet when sending . An

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