Old computers (Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?)

2019-07-04 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, July 04, 2019 09:50:36 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > BTW my oldest machine is a Kaypro 10 ;/ Just for kicks, I'll mention that my oldest machine is a Digital Group Z-80, circa 1976, assembed from a kit, and with 2K on board RAM plus 2 auxillary memory boards with 8K each (iirc) for a t

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/04/2015 05:44 PM, Jose Martinez wrote: On 06/03/2015 09:55 AM, Mike McClain wrote: On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 07:04:13PM -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: And I will probably not use these system(s) on line much if any at all. So most of the security issues will fixed or not will not really be

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-04 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/03/2015 09:55 AM, Mike McClain wrote: On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 07:04:13PM -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: And I will probably not use these system(s) on line much if any at all. So most of the security issues will fixed or not will not really be a problem in this situation. I see I've spark

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-04 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/03/2015 04:48 PM, John Hasler wrote: Renaud writes: Which certainly taught you the hard way to draw one (or several) diagonal pencil or ink lines across the top of your card deck... Or to number your cards so that you could simply run a scrambled deck through the card sorter. That's c

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Mike McClain
On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 07:04:13PM -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: > And I will probably not use these system(s) on line much if any at > all. So most of the security issues will fixed or not will not > really be a problem in this situation. > > I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list.

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread John Hasler
Renaud writes: > Which certainly taught you the hard way to draw one (or several) > diagonal pencil or ink lines across the top of your card deck... Or to number your cards so that you could simply run a scrambled deck through the card sorter. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Ron
On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 13:08:44 -0700 "Larry Owens" wrote: > And do you remember carrying your punched card deck from the keypunch room to > the data center--and have someone bump into you and spill the cards on the > floor? Which certainly taught you the hard way to draw one (or several) diagonal

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Ron
0C7 and 0CB compile errors anyone ? Cheers, Ron. -- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they come to fight you, and then you win. -- Gandhi

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Jose Martinez wrote: > Marc Shapiro wrote: > > Jose Martinez wrote: > > > Yeah, there's nothing like making an antique useful. I remember the > > > days of the PDP-11 running *nixWhat I wouldn't give to come up with > > > one of those old things!! > > > > My first programming class, back in 19

RE: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Larry Owens
-Original Message- From: Jose Martinez [mailto:jomartinez...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 12:51 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Old Computers On 06/03/2015 05:30 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 19:04 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: >&

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/03/2015 05:30 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 19:04 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list. I sure appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy when I actually have the systems in hand. You could always tr

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/02/2015 11:45 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 06/02/2015 08:11 PM, Jose Martinez wrote: On 06/02/2015 10:08 PM, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tu

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 19:04 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: > I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list. I sure > appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy when I > actually have the systems in hand. You could always try mining Bitcoin: http://www.righto.com/201

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 06/02/2015 08:11 PM, Jose Martinez wrote: On 06/02/2015 10:08 PM, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrot

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/02/2015 10:08 PM, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Ma

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: > > > > > Hmm

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/02/2015 12:41 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 02/06/15 12:49 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 17:37:01 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: But there's always vintage operating systems for vintage computers :) I thought of DSL. But it needs

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Doug
On 06/02/2015 02:01 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 06/02/2015 11:07 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run Squeeze. Nothing like stone knives a

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/02/2015 11:07 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run Squeeze. Nothing like stone knives and bear skins!:-) I think even squeeze wou

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Gary Dale
On 02/06/15 12:49 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 17:37:01 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: But there's always vintage operating systems for vintage computers :) I thought of DSL. But it needs an i486. :-( http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 02 June 2015 17:37:01 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > But there's always vintage operating systems for vintage computers :) > > > > I thought of DSL. But it needs an i486. :-( > > http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ > > http://distrowatch.co

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > But there's always vintage operating systems for vintage computers :) > > I thought of DSL. But it needs an i486. :-( > http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=damnsmall I was thinking more along the

RE: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Arno Schuring
> From: lisi.re...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:17 +0100 > On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: >> On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: >>> >>> I thought of DSL. But it needs an i486. :-( >>> http://w

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: > > > > Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run > > >

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread lostson
On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: > > > Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run Squeeze. > > > Nothing like stone knives and bear skins!:-) >

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: > > Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run Squeeze. > > Nothing like stone knives and bear skins!:-) > > I think even squeeze would be a challenge (maybe a fun one

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: > Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run Squeeze. > Nothing like stone knives and bear skins!:-) I think even squeeze would be a challenge (maybe a fun one though!) when it comes to ram and disk space. But there's al

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 08:32:01AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > ... > Look around and see if you can find a copy of fvwm 1.24r - I ran that > for years on a 386 with little RAM without any problems. Version 2 is a > little heavier, but you can compile it yourself and leave out options > you don't

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Ron
> I'm about to be blessed with several old PC computers. By old I mean that > some of them will not even have CDROM drives on them. Dont throw them away before considering that some may be given a second life, as dedicated firewall boxes, using the IPCop or IPFire distributions. Cheers, Ro

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 1, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Jose Martinez wrote: > Hey guys, > I'm about to be blessed with several old PC computers. By old I mean that > some of them will not even have CDROM drives on them. I will probably tear > them all down, mix-and-match parts and make the best system(s) I can from >

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-01 Thread Petter Adsen
On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 23:39:15 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > On 01/06/15 10:10 PM, Martin Read wrote: > > On 02/06/15 01:56, Jose Martinez wrote: > >> The question is, will jessie install and run on these old systems? > >> If not, can I still get a debian distro that will? I expect that > >> the proces

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 01/06/15 10:10 PM, Martin Read wrote: On 02/06/15 01:56, Jose Martinez wrote: The question is, will jessie install and run on these old systems? If not, can I still get a debian distro that will? I expect that the processors on at least one of them will be at least i386 or better, so I also

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-01 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/01/2015 09:10 PM, Martin Read wrote: On 02/06/15 01:56, Jose Martinez wrote: The question is, will jessie install and run on these old systems? If not, can I still get a debian distro that will? I expect that the processors on at least one of them will be at least i386 or better, so I a

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-01 Thread Martin Read
On 02/06/15 01:56, Jose Martinez wrote: The question is, will jessie install and run on these old systems? If not, can I still get a debian distro that will? I expect that the processors on at least one of them will be at least i386 or better, so I also expect that jessie will install and run, b

Old Computers

2015-06-01 Thread Jose Martinez
Hey guys, I'm about to be blessed with several old PC computers. By old I mean that some of them will not even have CDROM drives on them. I will probably tear them all down, mix-and-match parts and make the best system(s) I can from those parts. This is something I've done before, so the te

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:44:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:21:42AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > Or wonder if you will be stuck at a 2.6.22 kernel because you have a > > nvidia MX400 because m-a only works with the nvidia-glx from unstable if > > you try

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 10:09, Kent West wrote: Curt Howland wrote: Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really miss being able to read them as they went by, espec

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:45:39AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 11:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> [snip] > >>> I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinde

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 04:22:06PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > I was seriously surprised with the power my old 95 Kia Sportage had. 4 > banger, but got 147HP on the State of Oregon DEQ dynos at Hillsboro. It once > pulled a Ford Explorer out of a drainage ditch, and with the help of another

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > My first Linux install was on a 386-33. I still have the steel full-sized AT > case around here somewhere... The hardest thing was figuring out the > monitor's frequencies for Xwindows, since at that time they were not > autodetecte

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 10 April 2008 06:54:31 am Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite > > > delivery truck. It's so cool.

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:41:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 11:28, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > > .. > > > >> Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log > >> doesn't pick up all of the

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 11:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> [snip] >>> I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite >>> delive

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 11:28, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > .. > >> Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log >> doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really mis

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [snip] > > > > I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite > > delivery truck. It's so cool. Geared so low in first, you could pull > > stumps with it... > > Gee,

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: .. > Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log > doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really miss being able to read them > as they went by, especially when I see something "Gee, that doesn't look

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 10:09, Kent West wrote: > Curt Howland wrote: >> Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the >> log doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really miss being able >> to read them as they went by, especially when I

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Kent West
Curt Howland wrote: Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really miss being able to read them as they went by, especially when I see something "Gee, that doesn't look right..." and poof it's gone. This is why I don't

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My first Linux install was on a 386-33. I still have the steel full-sized AT case around here somewhere... The hardest thing was figuring out the monitor's frequencies for Xwindows, since at that time they were not autodetected what so ever. In on

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [snip] > > > > I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite > > delivery truck. It's so cool. Geared so low in first, you could pull > > stumps with it... > > Gee,

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] > > I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite > delivery truck. It's so cool. Geared so low in first, you could pull > stumps with it... Gee, ya think uber-torque is why t

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 06:53:08PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 09 April 2008 06:25:01 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:58:14AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: > > > Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > If before we were kettle and pot, now that duct tape is

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 06:25:01 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:58:14AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: > > Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > If before we were kettle and pot, now that duct tape is an issue, are > > > we Red and Green (do other places get the Red Gre

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 04:42:13 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:34:39AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > No no, sorry Doug, but rubber bands are reserved for securing daughter > > *boards* not daughters. I only use du(ct|ck) tape for securing the > > children. > >

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:58:14AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > If before we were kettle and pot, now that duct tape is an issue, are we > > Red and Green (do other places get the Red Green show?). > > Augh! Red Green on d-u?!? There's got to be a l

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread s. keeling
Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > If before we were kettle and pot, now that duct tape is an issue, are we > Red and Green (do other places get the Red Green show?). Augh! Red Green on d-u?!? There's got to be a law against that! :-P -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:34:39AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > No no, sorry Doug, but rubber bands are reserved for securing daughter > *boards* not daughters. I only use du(ct|ck) tape for securing the > children. > > /me runs from the SPCA^h^h^h^hCPS... If the wiggle fits. (I think

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:21:42AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > Or wonder if you will be stuck at a 2.6.22 kernel because you have a > nvidia MX400 because m-a only works with the nvidia-glx from unstable if > you try installing the 2.6.24 kernel which has migrated down to Lenny. So you find

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:48:18PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > > so now we can twiddle our thumbs, go on random OT rants and rest > > assured that

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 09:28:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 01:23:07PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: > > >>>slot "wore out" (don't ask me how, because I don't know). At the > > >>>end, I had to keep a rubberband pulling that daughter board at just > > >>>the right angle,

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 01:23:07PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: > >>>slot "wore out" (don't ask me how, because I don't know). At the > >>>end, I had to keep a rubberband pulling that daughter board at just > >>>the right angle, or the thing would lock up and not boot. Worked > >>>like that for years

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:03:34AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 07:17:49PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:48:18PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > On Su

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:46:15PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > > Since we're off topic and talking about low end machine. I don't know if any > of you guys have heard of this new linux distro on the block called slitaz. > > http://www.slitaz.org/en/ hey that's cool. I love little distros

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 07:17:49PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:48:18PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > We could

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:46:15PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > Since we're off topic and talking about low end machine. I don't know > if any of you guys have heard of this new linux distro on the block > called slitaz. > > http://www.slitaz.org/en/ > > Very small distro...fits in a 24.8

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:26:41PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 20:48, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > I remember my 386. It was an IBM PS/2 mode

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-06 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:48:18 -0400 "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > > so now we can twiddle our thumbs, go on random OT rants and rest >

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 20:48, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> >> so now we can twiddle our thumbs, go on random OT rants and r

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:48:18PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > > so now we can twiddle our thumbs, go on random OT rants and rest > > assured that

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-06 Thread David Fox
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I remember my 386. It was an IBM PS/2 model 70-A21. It came with the > then-unherd of 120MB hard drive, MCA bus, and I put 4 MB ram into it, My first Linux box was very similar. SLS it ran, 120 meg (and very flaky S

[VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > so now we can twiddle our thumbs, go on random OT rants and rest > assured that lenny will be out any time. When's the next utnubu due > out? That always b

Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-06 Thread David Fox
On 10/6/07, Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What can be put into .mplayer.conf to disable video entirely so just the > sound track plays? $ mplayer -vo null something.mpg will play the audio but suppress the video. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "un

Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-06 Thread Jude DaShiell
What can be put into .mplayer.conf to disable video entirely so just the sound track plays? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 05:15:53PM +1000, Cameron Hutchison wrote: > Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >! unable to read sector 195204, reason: Input/output error > >! unable to read sector 195205, reason: Input/output error > > This may be because of new forms of copy protection

Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-04 Thread Cameron Hutchison
Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What happens if you run cdck to check the quality of the DVD? >I installed cdck from the deb repo and ran it. A lot of errors. There are a >lot: >! unable to read sector 195007, reason: Input/output error >! unable to read sector 195008, reason:

Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-03 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
> What happens if you run cdck to check the quality of the DVD? I installed cdck from the deb repo and ran it. A lot of errors. There are a lot: ! unable to read sector 195007, reason: Input/output error ! unable to read sector 195008, reason: Input/output error ! unable to read sector 195009,

Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-03 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
> Hi, > > It looks weird - CRC errors? Is the DVD scratched badly? I'm afraid I > cannot help you; maybe you should try asking on some mplayer forums/groups? > > BTW, have you tried the kaffeine already? It worked better than mplayer > with DVDs for me. > > Kind regards, > Michal R. Hoffmann

Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 09:27:51PM +0100, MRH wrote: > Dnia 02/10/07 08:13,Amit Uttamchandani napisa??: > > > >I tried out the settings but it still doesn't seem to help. I get a bunch > >of these errors repeatedly. > > > >a52: CRC check failed! > >a52: error at resampling > >a52: CRC check failed

Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-03 Thread MRH
Dnia 02/10/07 08:13,Amit Uttamchandani napisał: [] I tried out the settings but it still doesn't seem to help. I get a bunch of these errors repeatedly. a52: CRC check failed! a52: error at resampling a52: CRC check failed! 5.666 ct: 0.295 138/135 13% 5% 100.0% 127 0 1% a52: error at resamp

Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-02 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Hey there, Thanks for the reply. > > ~/.mplayer/config: > > vo=xv > ao=alsa > cache=4096 (but this was due to playing some .avi from network drive) > autoq=6 > vf=pp > framedrop=yes > I tried out the settings but it still doesn't seem to help. I get a bunch of these errors repeatedly. a52:

Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-01 Thread MRH
Dnia 01/10/07 09:16,Amit Uttamchandani napisał: Hey guys, Trying to use mplayer to watch DVDs but it is quite slow. A lot of artifacts and buffering. Quite unwatchable. I have been tweaking a few settings here and there but I thought I'd ask from more experience users out there. A few setting

Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 01:16:51AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > Hey guys, > > Trying to use mplayer to watch DVDs but it is quite slow. A lot of > artifacts and buffering. Quite unwatchable. I have been tweaking a few > settings here and there but I thought I'd ask from more experience > use

Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-01 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Hey guys, Trying to use mplayer to watch DVDs but it is quite slow. A lot of artifacts and buffering. Quite unwatchable. I have been tweaking a few settings here and there but I thought I'd ask from more experience users out there. A few settings that I am using now, * -vo xv * -cache 8192