Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

2000-01-01 Thread Nate Duehr
On Fri, Dec 31, 1999 at 06:36:43PM -0500, Paul M. Foster wrote: snipped much of earlier conversation for sake of bandwidth... Here's another gripe about dselect. When I install, dselect asks me for the root directory on the CD-ROM. How the hell do I know? The nice part about it (without

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

2000-01-01 Thread aphro
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Fish Smith wrote: dyson_ There are two really horrible things about Debian, dyson_ though. 1) The dyson_ dselect dyson_ package handler. I'm speaking from Debian 2.1 here. dyson_ It has a very dyson_ primitive interface and is incredibly tedious. Maybe dyson_ they're doing

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

2000-01-01 Thread aphro
something i'd really like is web integration with the package management, its really cool to be able to click on a tardist file (IRIX package format) and have it launch the software manager (X based) and prompt to setup/install the package. i read i think on linux.com on how to add this

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-31 Thread Paul M. Foster
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, aphro wrote: On 30 Dec 1999, Nick Moffitt wrote: nick Quoting Svante Signell: nick - rpm format to be used for binary packages in LSB. nick nick I beg your pardon? RPM is one of the biggest pieces of crap ive seen..i spent 20 minutes working on a

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-31 Thread Fish Smith
Big problem is getting guys like LSB to buy the .deb format. I haven't researched it, but even guys on the Red Hat list say it's better. There are two really horrible things about Debian, though. 1) The dselect package handler. I'm speaking from Debian 2.1 here. It has a very primitive interface

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-31 Thread Nate Duehr
There's a version of linuxconf undergoing testing for Debian in potato right now. What's RedHat got that's better than dselect? I haven't seen any decent tools for RPM's that provide: 1. Integration with an outside program to download all necessary files from a package mirror. 2. Listings of

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-31 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 31 Dec, Fish Smith wrote about Re: Proposal: Source file package format Big problem is getting guys like LSB to buy the .deb format. I haven't researched it, but even guys on the Red Hat list say it's better. There are two really horrible things about Debian, though. 1) The dselect

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-31 Thread Paul M. Foster
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Nate Duehr wrote: There's a version of linuxconf undergoing testing for Debian in potato right now. Good news. I'm glad somebody is sharing tools, instead of the not made here syndrome. What's RedHat got that's better than dselect? I haven't seen any decent tools

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Svante Signell
Hi, Here is a summary of the proposal for a common source file format: - Good idea! - Waste of time, Use configure; make; make install, Most packages are for Unix, not only Linux. - Source management problems, no-one is interested in BOTH .rpms and .debs! What about experimental versions? -

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Nick Moffitt
Quoting Svante Signell: - rpm format to be used for binary packages in LSB. I beg your pardon? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks LinuxCabal.Org - Co-location facilities and meeting space -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: [expert] Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Jean-Michel Dault
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Re: [expert] Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Wed, Dec 29, 1999 at 09:46:10PM -0500, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: What I would suggest is having the .tar.gz source file, plus another file, with a .build-rh.rpm , .build-mdk.rpm .build.deb extension. That way, the author only has to maintain his source code, support for particular distributions

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
On 30 Dec 1999, Nick Moffitt wrote: nick Quoting Svante Signell: nick - rpm format to be used for binary packages in LSB. nick nick I beg your pardon? RPM is one of the biggest pieces of crap ive seen..i spent 20 minutes working on a redhat5.1 machine(from telnet) and it about drove me MAD,

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread JF Martinez
Hi, Here is a summary of the proposal for a common source file format: - Good idea! - Waste of time, Use configure; make; make install, Most packages are for Unix, not only Linux. Who cares about Unix? the sooner Linux kills it the best. - Source management problems, no-one is

Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)

1999-12-30 Thread aphro
dpkg and rpm and slp(stampede) people should get together and work out a new format for future linux distributions..take the best from everything, and have it be a neutral name that gives credit to any 1 group/company for comming up with it. i dont have experience using slp but from what i read it

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-04 Thread Richard Stallman
[The lists redhat-devel-list@redhat.com and gnome-list@gnome.org would not let me post to them. If you can, would you please forward this reply to those lists?] If people in the LSB are now interested in working with the GNU Project, that's a good thing. Starting with this basic willingness to

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-02 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Re: Proposal: Source file package format ++ Enables convergence towards Linux Standard Base (LSB) Reducing incompatibility between the variants of the GNU operating system that use Linux as the kernel is a useful job. The GNU Project

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-02 Thread Daniel Quinlan
... the LSB is working with GNU Project developers, especially from Debian. ... Dylan Thurston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ Dylan's private email is quoted with his permission ] One comment that you probably know by now: Debian is not the GNU project. There is no official relation between

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-12-01 Thread Richard Stallman
++ Enables convergence towards Linux Standard Base (LSB) Reducing incompatibility between the variants of the GNU operating system that use Linux as the kernel is a useful job. The GNU Project would be happy to cooperate with other people on this, if they approach us in a cooperative spirit

Proposal: Source file package format

1999-11-28 Thread Svante Signell
Greetings, What do you think of the following proposal: I order to simplify for package authors/maintainers and to reduce duplication, distribute the source file packages in .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2) format. This avoids the need to provide both .tar.gz, .src.rpm and debian source files. Included in

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-11-28 Thread Oliver Elphick
Svante Signell wrote: What do you think of the following proposal: I order to simplify for package authors/maintainers and to reduce duplication, distribute the source file packages in .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2) format. This avoids the need to provide both .tar.gz, .src.rpm and debian

Re: Proposal: Source file package format

1999-11-28 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Svante Signell wrote: Greetings, What do you think of the following proposal: In order to simplify for package authors/maintainers and to reduce duplication, distribute the source file packages in .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2) format. This avoids the need to provide both .tar.gz, .src.rpm and