Re: version control and project management

2024-09-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Sep 17, 2024 at 8:45 AM BST, Wim Bertels wrote: > ps: i had been using redmine (debian, postgres) for more than 10 years > with dist-upgrades, which did the job well (with some quirks for git > and automatic repo creation to setup), so i was surprised to see it > disappear > (i had to insta

Re: version control and project management

2024-09-17 Thread Wim Bertels
(As i only got the digest, not the mail itself?) > On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 12:11:25PM +, Wim Bertels wrote: > > there are packages to use in debian for this purpose; ie project > > management (eg tickets, wiki, ..) and version control (eg git). > > Ideally, these packages should be dist-upgra

Re: version control and project management

2024-09-17 Thread Wim Bertels
(As i only got the digest, not the mail itself?) > On Mon Sep 16, 2024 at 1:11 PM BST, Wim Bertels wrote: > > as software is continuously being developed, > > it seems logical that there are packages to use in debian for this > > purpose; ie project management (eg tickets, wiki, ..) and version >

Re: iSCSI question

2024-09-17 Thread Greg
On 9/17/24 00:12, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 06:41:28PM +0200, Greg wrote: 1. If I export /dev/md0 via iSCSI would I benefit from memory buffers? I've very little experience with iSCSI and don't know the answer to this… 2. Is it possible to export a virtual device (like v

Re: iSCSI question

2024-09-17 Thread Greg
On 9/16/24 21:21, Arno Lehmann wrote: Hi Greg, Am 16.09.2024 um 18:41 schrieb Greg: Hi there, I would like ot use Debian box as iSCSI server (target if I'm not wrong). So I have two questions: 1. If I export /dev/md0 via iSCSI would I benefit from memory buffers? That's an interesting que

Re: Strip domain name from hostnames in output

2024-09-16 Thread Urs Thuermann
Michael Stone writes: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:18:19AM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: > >Is there a config option in libc, the host name resolver or somewhere > >else to show hostnames in my own domain without the full domain name? > > no You could at least achieve that desired behavior by putt

Re: Where to put *.pth files for custom Python site packages?

2024-09-16 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 11:01:00AM +0930, Christian Gelinek wrote: > We're using a library of our own Python modules & packages. > > The Python documentation[0] states that the search path can be extended via > .pth files which should be added to specific directories. While the > documentation spe

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-16 Thread David Christensen
On 9/16/24 03:32, Anssi Saari wrote: Will Mengarini writes: ViewSonic 15E Isn't that a CRT from the '90s? So you have some adapter for HDMI? Is there really no other monitor you could use? I tried using a search engine and came up empty: https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=site%3AViewSon

Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot

2024-09-16 Thread songbird
Anssi Saari wrote: > songbird writes: > >> hmm, well i actually use Refind for my normal booting up >> and install GRUB as a backup. so far i've never needed the >> backup but i do test it out from time to time. > > Um, so how do you choose which boot manager you want to run? UEFI boot > menu?

Re: version control and project management

2024-09-16 Thread Juri Grabowski
Hello Wim, I mean bugs schould be tracked together with software, also in git. checkmk.com are using own implementation: work some projects was using https://gitlab.com/bugseverywhere/bugseverywhere Some projects prefere just to sync bugs with https://github.com/git-bug/git-bug In my opinion, mai

Re: iSCSI question

2024-09-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 06:41:28PM +0200, Greg wrote: > 1. If I export /dev/md0 via iSCSI would I benefit from memory buffers? I've very little experience with iSCSI and don't know the answer to this… > 2. Is it possible to export a virtual device (like vmdk) by iSCSI? This > would allow sli

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Didn't the initial message say that the Internet *was* working, and then > suddenly *stopped* working, right in the middle of a download? > > That, together with the interface not being UP, points to the > configuration being OK, but something going wrong at the hardware

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Frank McCormick
Another user here made a comment that clued me into what the problem really was. I had done an update of Trixie which went fine. Then I started to do something which I had been planning for a while - remove the Cinnamon desktop. I was doing it piecemeal when seemingly the internet dropped

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:24:22 -0400 Frank McCormick wrote: > ip address show > 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN > group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd > 00:00:00:00:00:00 > inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lovalid_lft forever preferred_lft > forever > i

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 16. September 2024, 19:59:44 CEST schrieb Frank McCormick: > I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie > on one of two partitions on my ssd. > I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by > installing Seahorse. Apt quit halfway through do

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 15:47:10 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Tom Furie wrote: > > Actually, it doesn't look good - you don't have any ip addresses on eno1, > > the interface is down. You're going to have to find out why that is. > > Since it's recognized, it was probably not configured. > > Easie

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Furie wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 03:24:22PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > ip address show > > 2: eno1: mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default > > qlen 1000 > > link/ether 44:87:fc:d8:3b:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff altname enp0s25 > > > I am no expert but it seems to look

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 03:24:22PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > ip address show > 2: eno1: mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default > qlen 1000 > link/ether 44:87:fc:d8:3b:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff altname enp0s25 > I am no expert but it seems to look good. Firefox can't find any site

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2024-09-16 14:46, tuxi...@posteo.de wrote: On Monday, September 16, 2024 7:59:44 PM CEST Frank McCormick wrote: I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on one of two partitions on my ssd. Hi! I'm having similar random disconnect issues where even DHCP w

Re: iSCSI question

2024-09-16 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi Greg, Am 16.09.2024 um 18:41 schrieb Greg: Hi there, I would like ot use Debian box as iSCSI server (target if I'm not wrong). So I have two questions: 1. If I export /dev/md0 via iSCSI would I benefit from memory buffers? That's an interesting question... in all environments I ever use

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2024-09-16 14:21, Dan Ritter wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: It's not a hardware problem as I have full access on the other partition which runs Opensuse Tumbleweed. Earlier today I did an update of Trixie and it went fine. We can rule out the ISP, the router, any switches in the way,

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 16 Sep 2024 14:46 -0400, from debianl...@videotron.ca (Frank McCormick): >> # systemctl restart networking > >I'll reboot and try that. Following a suggestion I found on the net I did > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart and that **seems** to have restarted the > network, BUT browsers can'

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri 13 Sep 2024 at 15:00:14 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > David Wright writes: > > On Tue 10 Sep 2024 at 11:56:25 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > > >> Why do you think that? Which part of the fsync manpage explicitly covers > >> fsync's effect on device files? Share share, it's fair. > > > “fs

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2024-09-16 14:21, Dan Ritter wrote: Ever since that I have no internet access in Trixie. It's not a hardware problem as I have full access on the other partition which runs Opensuse Tumbleweed. Earlier today I did an update of Trixie and it went fine. We can rule out the ISP, the rout

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-16 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Sep 2024 at 12:08:29 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 7:59 AM wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 10:27:01PM +0200, Christian Groessler wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Now for the main question: Why do you need ancient Debian? > > > > Was in the original post: "Th

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-16 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Sep 2024 at 23:45:42 (-0700), Will Mengarini wrote: > Felix Miata [24-09/15=Sun 22:01 -0400]: > > F12 should get you the Gigabyte BBS menu. > > Something happens when I press , but I can't > tell what, because I can't read the screen, because > it is out of sync, using an unsupported re

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread tuxifan
On Monday, September 16, 2024 7:59:44 PM CEST Frank McCormick wrote: > I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie > on one of two partitions on my ssd. > I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by > installing Seahorse. Apt quit halfway through dow

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2024-09-16 14:27, Kent West wrote: On 9/16/24 12:59 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on  one of two partitions on my ssd. I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by installing Seahorse.  Apt quit halfwa

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread DdB
Am 16.09.2024 um 20:27 schrieb Kent West: > > On 9/16/24 12:59 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: >> I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie >> on  one of two partitions on my ssd. >> I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by >> installing Seahorse.  Ap

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Frank McCormick wrote: > I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on > one of two partitions on my ssd. > I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by installing > Seahorse. Apt quit halfway through downloading the necessary files > complaining it

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Kent West
On 9/16/24 12:59 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on  one of two partitions on my ssd. I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by installing Seahorse.  Apt quit halfway through downloading the necessary file

Re: version control and project management

2024-09-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 12:11:25PM +, Wim Bertels wrote: > there are packages to use in debian for this purpose; ie project > management (eg tickets, wiki, ..) and version control (eg git). > Ideally, these packages should be dist-upgradable, as Debian is > known for it's stability (eg Deb

Re: LVM in LVM

2024-09-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:21:49AM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: > In older Debian releases, I think at least until Debian 9, it was > possible to access PVs and LVs which are stored in a LV. […] > I don't see how this can be done in the current Debian 12. Works fine for me on all versions of

Re: docker buildx plugin

2024-09-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat Sep 14, 2024 at 10:39 PM BST, Geert Stappers wrote: > My websearch suggested there is package 'docker-buildx-plugin' and > package 'docker-buildx'. "apt" can't find them. I speculate that the buildx component was formerly part of the upstream project that is consumed by Debian's docker.io

Re: version control and project management

2024-09-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Sep 16, 2024 at 1:11 PM BST, Wim Bertels wrote: > as software is continuously being developed, > it seems logical that there are packages to use in debian for this > purpose; ie project management (eg tickets, wiki, ..) and version > control (eg git). Ideally, these packages should be dist-u

Re: Strip domain name from hostnames in output

2024-09-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:18:19AM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: Is there a config option in libc, the host name resolver or somewhere else to show hostnames in my own domain without the full domain name? no

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 01:12:35PM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: Michael Stone writes: [1] insofar as you want to use dd at all ... dd does conveniently provide progress and stats whereas cp does not. stats which are misleading without the proper arguments, so it's a bit of a wash. This is ac

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:15:50AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Actually, dd doesn't "do" file system cache (unless you are dd'ing to a file, of course). Incorrect; linux block device accesses cache unless specifically asked not to. This is very easy to demonstrate: run something like "dd i

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-16 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 01:40:52PM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > writes: [...] > > You are talking device cache. Jeffrey is talking file system cache. > > Two different (and independent) layers. > > I think Jeffrey's post was pretty clear in that it was not about writing > to a file system. Notwi

Re: LVM in LVM

2024-09-16 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024, Steve Keller wrote: In older Debian releases, I think at least until Debian 9, it was possible to access PVs and LVs which are stored in a LV. The PV inside the containing LV could be displayed and activated with vgdisplay(8) and vgchange(8). This scenario makes sense if y

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-16 Thread Anssi Saari
writes: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 12:00:53PM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: >> Jeffrey Walton writes: >> >> > The file system cache is still holding the writes. If I remove the >> > SDcard and try to use it, the image is corrupt. When I say "remove", I >> > mean pop the card out of the card reader s

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-16 Thread Anssi Saari
Will Mengarini writes: > ViewSonic 15E Isn't that a CRT from the '90s? So you have some adapter for HDMI? Is there really no other monitor you could use?

Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot

2024-09-16 Thread Anssi Saari
songbird writes: > hmm, well i actually use Refind for my normal booting up > and install GRUB as a backup. so far i've never needed the > backup but i do test it out from time to time. Um, so how do you choose which boot manager you want to run? UEFI boot menu?

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-16 Thread Anssi Saari
Michael Stone writes: > [1] insofar as you want to use dd at all ... dd does conveniently provide progress and stats whereas cp does not.

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-16 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 12:00:53PM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > Jeffrey Walton writes: > > > The file system cache is still holding the writes. If I remove the > > SDcard and try to use it, the image is corrupt. When I say "remove", I > > mean pop the card out of the card reader since the write ha

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-16 Thread Anssi Saari
Jeffrey Walton writes: > The file system cache is still holding the writes. If I remove the > SDcard and try to use it, the image is corrupt. When I say "remove", I > mean pop the card out of the card reader since the write has > supposedly finished. All right. So in fact, block devices either h

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-16 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 16.09.2024 04:12, Will Mengarini wrote: I am trying to install Debian on a new prebuilt, but when I boot and press , the screen is garbled. Windows later figures it out, but by that time it's too late to tell the BIOS to boot from a USB stick on which I've installed netinst. The mobo is a Gi

Re: old kernel appears more stable than latest

2024-09-16 Thread hlyg
Thank Cater! On 9/16/24 14:08, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Is this the USB stick adapter? my wifi adapter is Realtek  RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Adapter, it uses firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin i have downgraded kernel to linux-image-6.1.0-17-amd64, hopefully it can solve my problem Sep 13 18:

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-16 Thread Joe
On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 23:28:36 -0700 Will Mengarini wrote: > * Charles Curley [24-09/15=Sun > 18:15 -0600]: > > On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:12:45 -0700 > > Will Mengarini wrote: > > > > > I am trying to install Debian on a new prebuilt, but when I > > > boot and press , the screen is garbled. > >

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-15 Thread Will Mengarini
* Felix Miata [24-09/15=Sun 22:01 -0400]: > Will Mengarini composed on 2024-09-15 16:12 (UTC-0700): > > > I am trying to install Debian on a new prebuilt, but when I > > boot and press , the screen is garbled. Windows later > > figures it out, but by that time it's too late to tell the > > BIOS t

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-15 Thread Will Mengarini
* Charles Curley [24-09/15=Sun 18:15 -0600]: > On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:12:45 -0700 > Will Mengarini wrote: > > > I am trying to install Debian on a new prebuilt, but when I > > boot and press , the screen is garbled. > > Slow down. When you boot what? A Debian installation (which, > presumably, ap

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-15 Thread Will Mengarini
* David Christensen [24-09/15=Sun 17:13 -0700]: > On 9/15/24 16:12, Will Mengarini wrote: > > I am trying to install Debian on a new prebuilt, but when I > > boot and press , the screen is garbled. Windows later > > figures it out, but by that time it's too late to tell the > > BIOS to boot from

Re: old kernel appears more stable than latest

2024-09-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 01:23:08PM +0800, hlyg wrote: > below are last msg before next boot, wifi adapter name has been > edited(wlx123) > > wifi adapter use firmware r8188eu, i don't why peripheral like wifi adapter > can cause kernel to fail > Is this the USB stick adapter? > i have downgrade

Re: old kernel appears more stable than latest

2024-09-15 Thread hlyg
below are last msg before next boot, wifi adapter name has been edited(wlx123) wifi adapter use firmware r8188eu, i don't why peripheral like wifi adapter can cause kernel to fail i have downgraded kernel to linux-image-6.1.0-17-amd64, hopefully it can solve my problem Sep 13 18:04:23 debi

Re: docker buildx plugin

2024-09-15 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 11:39:21PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > Hello, > > On a Bookworm system results `DOCKER_BUILDKIT=1 docker build .` in > a succesfull build. > > On an unstable system results `DOCKER_BUILDKIT=1 docker build .` in > this output: > |ERROR: BuildKit is enabled but the buildx

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 10:47:46PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 08:33:55PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [rough dd test] > It's an invalid test because you hit the end of the device; there's nothing > left to sync. This doesn't make sense to me. The question was whether

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Sep 08, 2024 at 10:59:58AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: 2. Using dd(1) with sync(1): 3. Using dd(1) without explicit synchronization: These two tests are identical, as dd has exited (and all the performance information has been printed) before sync runs. The flag you want[1] is con

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 08:33:55PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: tomas@caliban:~$ time sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M ; time sync dd: error writing '/dev/sdb': No space left on device 15268+0 records in 15267+0 records out 16008609792 bytes (16 GB, 15 GiB) copied, 3614.25 s, 4.4 MB/

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-15 Thread Felix Miata
Will Mengarini composed on 2024-09-15 16:12 (UTC-0700): > I am trying to install Debian on a new prebuilt, but when I > boot and press , the screen is garbled. Windows later > figures it out, but by that time it's too late to tell the > BIOS to boot from a USB stick on which I've installed netins

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:12:45 -0700 Will Mengarini wrote: > I am trying to install Debian on a new prebuilt, but when I > boot and press , the screen is garbled. Slow down. When you boot what? A Debian installation (which, presumably, appeared to be successful), or a Debian installer? If the latt

Re: BIOS unreadable at boot

2024-09-15 Thread David Christensen
On 9/15/24 16:12, Will Mengarini wrote: I am trying to install Debian on a new prebuilt, but when I boot and press , the screen is garbled. Windows later figures it out, but by that time it's too late to tell the BIOS to boot from a USB stick on which I've installed netinst. The mobo is a Gigab

Re: linux-image-6.10.6 fails to build in nvidia-tesla-470

2024-09-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 21:04:18 +0200 Christian Britz wrote: > Am 09.09.24 um 10:27 schrieb David: > > > `apt auto-remove' > > You generally might want apt --purge auto-remove > This also cleans up configuration files. Which is the same as "apt autopurge", which I suggested earlier in this thre

Re: linux-image-6.10.6 fails to build in nvidia-tesla-470

2024-09-15 Thread Christian Britz
Am 09.09.24 um 10:27 schrieb David: > `apt auto-remove' You generally might want apt --purge auto-remove This also cleans up configuration files.

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-15 Thread Anders Andersson
On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 7:59 AM wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 10:27:01PM +0200, Christian Groessler wrote: > > [...] > > > Now for the main question: Why do you need ancient Debian? > > Was in the original post: "This is to build some ancient software." > > (I've been in a similar situation m

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 10:27:01PM +0200, Christian Groessler wrote: [...] > Now for the main question: Why do you need ancient Debian? Was in the original post: "This is to build some ancient software." (I've been in a similar situation myself) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP si

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Christian Groessler
Hi Tim, On 9/14/24 6:32 PM, Tim Woodall wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 14 Sep 2024 16:15 +0100, from debianu...@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall): Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk

Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot

2024-09-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Felix Miata wrote: > Which distros ship rEFInd? It's not among packages monitored by distrowatch. It seems that Debian does since a while: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/refind The tracker page points by its "homepage" link to https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ which shows the name "rEFIn

Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot

2024-09-14 Thread Felix Miata
songbird composed on 2024-09-14 13:07 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Max Nikulin composed on 2024-09-14 10:59 (UTC+0700): >>> So multiple loaders from the same vendor is tricky in the case of UEFI >>> SecureBoot. Behavior of grub may vary across Linux distributions. >> Thus, consider to K

Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot

2024-09-14 Thread songbird
Felix Miata wrote: > Max Nikulin composed on 2024-09-14 10:59 (UTC+0700): > >> So multiple loaders from the same vendor is tricky in the case of UEFI >> SecureBoot. Behavior of grub may vary across Linux distributions. > > Thus, consider to KISS. Pick one installation's bootloader to depend on. >

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 14 Sep 2024 16:15 +0100, from debianu...@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall): Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image. And, of course, as soon as I sent that I

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 04:15:46PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: The oldest backups I still have go back to 2006 which, sadly, is way too modern. Checking the potato release information says security updates were discontinued in 2003. I switched from Redhat to

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 14 Sep 2024 16:15 +0100, from debianu...@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall): >> Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I >> need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image. > > And, of course, as soon as I sent that I found a potato CD on > archive.org. Dow

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 04:15:46PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > > The oldest backups I still have go back to 2006 which, sadly, is way too > > modern. Checking the potato release information says security updates > > were discontinued in 2003. I switched from Redhat to Debian around that > > time s

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Tim Woodall wrote: Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image. I have no idea if debootstrap supports this, I haven't tried (yet), I was hoping there was somewhere I could download an

Re: old kernel appears more stable than latest

2024-09-14 Thread hlyg
Thank Busby! i compose email in freebsd on pc1, its time is incorrect problem is with pc2 running deb12 though its time is correct more detail about my problem, it arise in sleep mode, i can't see any error or warning msg (it enters sleep mode after mouse/keyboard inactivity for some time)

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-14 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 13 Sep 2024 17:53 -0400, from g...@wooledge.org (Greg Wooledge): > For the record, Debian 12 has vim 9.0.x and a /usr/share/vim/vim90/ > directory. According to ... oh, > that web page is not responding for me. Sorry, I can't check what > version(s) of Debian m

Re: old kernel appears more stable than latest

2024-09-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/9/24 15:49, hlyg wrote: You might want to check your system time, and/or your system timezone. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..

Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot

2024-09-13 Thread Felix Miata
Max Nikulin composed on 2024-09-14 10:59 (UTC+0700): > So multiple loaders from the same vendor is tricky in the case of UEFI > SecureBoot. Behavior of grub may vary across Linux distributions. Thus, consider to KISS. Pick one installation's bootloader to depend on. Install no others. -- Evolut

[SUMMARY] Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-09-13 Thread Max Nikulin
Avoid setting non-standard GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR in /etc/default/grub if you use Debian 12 bookworm with enabled Secure Boot and signed grub image from Debian. Alternatively install grub-2.12 from backports. On 23/08/2024 11:39, Felix Miata wrote: I don't know what vexing secure boot might introdu

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 22:46:09 +, Andy Smith wrote: > I just ran crontab -e as a fresh user and it actually invoked > /usr/bin/sensible-editor and asked me which editor I wanted to use > (now and in future). So perhaps the man page for crontab is out of > date. Agreed. hobbit:~$ strings /us

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-13 Thread David Christensen
On 9/13/24 12:06, Jeffrey Walton wrote: To add a datapoint... My daily driver workstation is really fast with lots of RAM. It has 3.4 GHz cpu and 64 GB of RAM. I also set swappiness to a low value to avoid spilling out of RAM. I use a lot of SBC's/dev boards for testing. They usually use a S

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Will Mengarini
d Aug 27 2024 05:34:22) > > Included patches: 1-16, 647, 17-579, 1969, 580-647, 678, 648-1848, 4975, > > 5016, 5023, 5072, 2068, 1849-1854, 1857, 1855-1857, 1331, 1858, 1858-1859, > > 1873, 1860-1969, 1992, 1970-1992, 2010, 1993-2068, 2106, 2069-2106, 2108, > > 2107-2109, 2109-3995, 4563, 4646, 4774, 4895, 4899, 4901, 4919, 213, 1840, > > 1846-1847, 2110-2112, 2121 > > ... > > > > > > Then I logged out and re-login the system, run 'crontab -e', the error still > > shows. Maybe I got bad luck today. :( > > > > Regards.

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Will Mengarini
4975, > 5016, 5023, 5072, 2068, 1849-1854, 1857, 1855-1857, 1331, 1858, 1858-1859, > 1873, 1860-1969, 1992, 1970-1992, 2010, 1993-2068, 2106, 2069-2106, 2108, > 2107-2109, 2109-3995, 4563, 4646, 4774, 4895, 4899, 4901, 4919, 213, 1840, > 1846-1847, 2110-2112, 2121 > ... > > > Then I logged out and re-login the system, run 'crontab -e', the error still > shows. Maybe I got bad luck today. :( > > Regards.

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 06:12:02AM +0800, Marcus Park wrote: > either $EDITOR or $VISUAL in my system is empty. > > And /usr/bin/editor points to nano. Well, I do not really understand what is going on then as you are definitely running an editor that looks at vim config files, and nano won'

Re: scp in crontab problem

2024-09-13 Thread Marcus Park
basti: /usr/bin/scp -i /home/userYX/.ssh/myKEY r...@example.com ... updated: it's really due to environment issue, after I add the '-i' path to scp, jobs run well now. Thanks basti.

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Marcus Park
, 1860-1969, 1992, 1970-1992, 2010, 1993-2068, 2106, 2069-2106, 2108, 2107-2109, 2109-3995, 4563, 4646, 4774, 4895, 4899, 4901, 4919, 213, 1840, 1846-1847, 2110-2112, 2121 ... Then I logged out and re-login the system, run 'crontab -e', the error still shows. Maybe I got bad

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 05:44:42AM +0800, Marcus Park wrote: > When I run 'crontab -e' the screen shows some errors like, > > $ crontab -e > Error detected while processing /usr/share/vim/vim82/filetype.vim: I'm pretty sure that these errors will be coming from the editor binary that is set

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 05:44:42 +0800, Marcus Park wrote: > Hi list, > > When I run 'crontab -e' the screen shows some errors like, > > $ crontab -e > Error detected while processing /usr/share/vim/vim82/filetype.vim: > line 10: > E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version: let

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024, at 5:00 AM, Anssi Saari wrote: ... > So the answer to > the question "is running sync needed after dd to block device" is > no. Someone else posted that too on this list recently, in another > thread. On the other hand, it may not be necessary, but it doesn't do any harm.

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 8:00 AM Anssi Saari wrote: > > David Wright writes: > > > On Tue 10 Sep 2024 at 11:56:25 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > > >> Why do you think that? Which part of the fsync manpage explicitly covers > >> fsync's effect on device files? Share share, it's fair. > > > “fsync()

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-13 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 03:00:14PM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > David Wright writes: > > > On Tue 10 Sep 2024 at 11:56:25 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > > >> Why do you think that? Which part of the fsync manpage explicitly covers > >> fsync's effect on device files? Share share, it's fair. > > >

Re: OT: Spectacles

2024-09-13 Thread Peter Ehlert
my personal experience: On 9/10/24 05:37, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Larry Martell wrote: What are these driving glasses? I can no longer drive at night and would love to know about them. As well as uncorrected visual faults, such as short-sightedness or astigmatism, another reason for

Re: [fixed]Re: startx returns "Xf86EnableIO: failed to enable I/O ports 0000-03ff"

2024-09-13 Thread Max Nikulin
On 13/09/2024 21:09, Pierre Willaime wrote: I do not think it was related to non-free-firmware repository (Here is my sources.list below) deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware It seems repositories are properly configured. In general however "apt

[fixed]Re: startx returns "Xf86EnableIO: failed to enable I/O ports 0000-03ff"

2024-09-13 Thread Pierre Willaime
Le 11/09/2024 à 17:55, Max Nikulin a écrit : grep -r system.conf /usr/share/dbus-1/ /usr/share/dbus-1/system.conf:  ignore_missing="yes">/etc/dbus-1/system.conf I do not have this file as well. I suggest Pierre to compare config files of live and installed environments. I recommend to read

Re: scp in crontab problem

2024-09-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 20:24:51 +0800 Marcus Park wrote: > Hi list, > > I have put the private key into my debian VPS (in ~/.ssh/ dir). The private key of what? And to ~/.ssh/ on which computer. you are talking about transferring a file from one computer to another; which one? And why the privat

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/13/2024 07:03 AM, George at Clug wrote: On Friday, 13-09-2024 at 20:17 Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/13/2024 03:56 AM, Hans wrote: Hi Richard, exchanging the keyboard yourself might be not a great thing. If it is not an apple computer, where you have to strip the whole computer, most key

Re: scp in crontab problem

2024-09-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 20:24:51 +0800, Marcus Park wrote: > I have put the private key into my debian VPS (in ~/.ssh/ dir). Does this private key have a passphrase? > When I scp a file from this VPS to another one by hand without password, it > works. > > But when I put this scp into crontab, i

Re: scp in crontab problem

2024-09-13 Thread basti
On 13.09.24 14:24, Marcus Park wrote: Hi list, I have put the private key into my debian VPS (in ~/.ssh/ dir). When I scp a file from this VPS to another one by hand without password, it works. But when I put this scp into crontab, it seems not work. The scp in crontab via private key didn'

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-13 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 13-09-2024 at 20:17 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 09/13/2024 03:56 AM, Hans wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > > > exchanging the keyboard yourself might be not a great thing. If it is not an > > apple computer, where you have to strip the whole computer, most keyboards > > are > > very simple

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-13 Thread Anssi Saari
David Wright writes: > On Tue 10 Sep 2024 at 11:56:25 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: >> Why do you think that? Which part of the fsync manpage explicitly covers >> fsync's effect on device files? Share share, it's fair. > “fsync() transfers ("flushes") all modified in-core data of (i.e., > modi

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