Re: Joey Hess is out?

Eduard Bloch wrote: Hallo, * Nate Bargmann [Mon, Nov 17 2014, 07:46:48AM]: Since systemd hatters usually fail on the second task, the rhetorical arsenal is chosen accordingly (ad-hominem, trolling, misquoting, ...). Here is the crux of the problem in these discussions and that is the use of "ha

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Hallo, * Nate Bargmann [Mon, Nov 17 2014, 07:46:48AM]: > > Since systemd hatters usually fail on the second task, the rhetorical > > arsenal is chosen accordingly (ad-hominem, trolling, misquoting, ...). > Here is the crux of the problem in these discussions and that is the use > of "haters" as an

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Am 2014-11-17 16:15, schrieb The Wanderer: Part of what I found reassuring about the statements that Debian's default systemd configuration stores the journal's binary logs only in memory was the idea that it would not be (needing to) write the log data separately to the binary format, or possi

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/17/2014 at 10:06 AM, Christian Seiler wrote: > Am 2014-11-17 15:54, schrieb The Wanderer: > >> On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote: >>> A default Debian jessie configuration has persistent text logs >>> in /var/log written by rsyslog, and *volatile* binary logs in >>> /run/log/jo

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Am 2014-11-17 15:54, schrieb The Wanderer: On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote: On 17/11/14 12:25, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: There were other poor design choices, it seems that Debian maintainers have fixed some of them (i.e. renaming network devices), other seems to be still there (b

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/17/2014 03:54 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote: >> A default Debian jessie configuration has persistent text logs in >> /var/log written by rsyslog, and *volatile* binary logs in >> /run/log/journal written by systemd-journald. Removing the binary >> logs

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote: > On 17/11/14 12:25, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > >> There were other poor design choices, it seems that Debian >> maintainers have fixed some of them (i.e. renaming network >> devices), other seems to be still there (binary logs...). > > A default Deb

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Martin Read writes: > Administrators of systemd-based systems who wish to turn off the binary > log can, of course, simply add the line > > Storage=none Happy to hear that Debian configuration is now sane. -- /\ ___Ubuntu: ancient /___/\_

Re: Joey Hess is out?

* On 2014 17 Nov 06:01 -0600, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Since systemd hatters usually fail on the second task, the rhetorical > arsenal is chosen accordingly (ad-hominem, trolling, misquoting, ...). Here is the crux of the problem in these discussions and that is the use of "haters" as an ad hominem a

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 17/11/14 12:25, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: There were other poor design choices, it seems that Debian maintainers have fixed some of them (i.e. renaming network devices), other seems to be still there (binary logs...). A default Debian jessie configuration has persistent text logs in /var/log

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Eduard Bloch writes: > That's not my impression. It's more like: if you don't like systemd, > don't use it. If I am left free of doing it, there is no problem, Debian does not force me to use any desktop environment at all, and that pleases me much, so if I am left free to use an older, tested a

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Hallo, * Slavko [Sat, Nov 08 2014, 04:13:12PM]: > > Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the > > whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD? > > This is exact example why i stopped all my contribution to Debian, and > i will not start it again, despite if

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Vi, 07 nov 14, 21:48:04, Kelly Clowers wrote: > > I mean, with all the fighting that has been going on, I wouldn't be > surprised if it had *something* to do with it. Joey seems to be all > about systemd if you read his blog, so I am guessing it isn't about > it being used, but about the whole

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Debian's mailing list had a sharp edge back in the 90's, the last times I inhabited them for much time. And it still does. If it means anything, Constitution or not, the Gentoo mailing list in its heyday was the epitome of civility, in comparison. A breath of fresh air, and none of the arroganc

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Marty wrote: On 11/12/2014 07:48 PM, Gary Roach wrote: On 11/08/2014 04:19 AM, Keith Peter wrote: Hello Bret and All Mr Hess was writing to the 1000+ Debian developers so the subject line *may* have made instant sense to them, but I take the wider point. We had better explain the 'so long and

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/12/2014 07:48 PM, Gary Roach wrote: On 11/08/2014 04:19 AM, Keith Peter wrote: Hello Bret and All Mr Hess was writing to the 1000+ Debian developers so the subject line *may* have made instant sense to them, but I take the wider point. We had better explain the 'so long and thanks for al

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/08/2014 04:19 AM, Keith Peter wrote: Hello Bret and All Mr Hess was writing to the 1000+ Debian developers so the subject line *may* have made instant sense to them, but I take the wider point. We had better explain the 'so long and thanks for all the fish' quote as well (looking at your

Re: [OT] Unfortunate sig (was ... Re: Joey Hess is out?)

On 13/11/2014, Curt wrote: > On 2014-11-12, Chris Bannister wrote: >> >> ROFLMAO, what danger can he possibly cause at his age! > off keyboard> >> > > He's so old he's dead. > That may be so, but, as with Seneca and many others, his work still lives on. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .

Re: [OT] Unfortunate sig (was ... Re: Joey Hess is out?)

On 2014-11-12, Chris Bannister wrote: > > ROFLMAO, what danger can he possibly cause at his age! off keyboard> > He's so old he's dead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: htt

Re: [OT] Unfortunate sig (was ... Re: Joey Hess is out?)

Chris Bannister writes: > ROFLMAO, what danger can he possibly cause at his age! off keyboard> Dangerman was made in the 1960s. -- John "Never pick a fight with an old man. He may be to tired to fight and so he'll just kill you" Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 07:53:47AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Chris Bannister writes: > > I read that as 'trouble unsubscribing?' then Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org. > > I wrote: > > I read it as 'technical trouble with this list'. You're right, though: > > now that we have listmoms th

[OT] Unfortunate sig (was ... Re: Joey Hess is out?)

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 03:35:08AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 12/11/2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > > I will not make any deals with you. I've resigned. I will not be > > pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My > > life is my own. I resign. > > -- Patrick McGoohan

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:42:00PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Don Armstrong writes: > > Sexism like this is inappropriate in Debian. Please stop. > > Ok. List-parental-units. Or LPU's for short. :) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppress

RE: Joey Hess is out?

-Original Message- From: Bret Busby [mailto:bret.bu...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:28 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Joey Hess is out? On 11/11/2014, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 08:00:27AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: >&

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 12/11/2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, John Hasler wrote: >> Vernacular for moderators, making sure that we play nice. > > On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Bret Busby wrote: >> Women who hit you with a list of things to do ("Clean up your >> room!...Mow The lawns!Wash the dishes") inst

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Don Armstrong writes: > Sexism like this is inappropriate in Debian. Please stop. Ok. List-parental-units. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.d

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, John Hasler wrote: > Vernacular for moderators, making sure that we play nice. On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Bret Busby wrote: > Women who hit you with a list of things to do ("Clean up your > room!...Mow The lawns!Wash the dishes") instead of hitting you > over the head with a hoc

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/11/2014, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 08:00:27AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: >> Chris Bannister writes: >> > I read that as 'trouble unsubscribing?' then Contact >> > listmas...@lists.debian.org. >> >> I read it as 'technical trouble with this list'. You're right, though:

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:53:47 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > > I read it as 'technical trouble with this list'. You're right, though: > > now that we have listmoms the footer needs to be redone. File a > > wishlist bug. > > Chris Bannister writes: > > 'listmoms'? > > Vernacular for moderators,

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Chris Bannister writes: > I read that as 'trouble unsubscribing?' then Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org. I wrote: > I read it as 'technical trouble with this list'. You're right, though: > now that we have listmoms the footer needs to be redone. File a > wishlist bug. Chris Bannister write

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 08:00:27AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Chris Bannister writes: > > I read that as 'trouble unsubscribing?' then Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org. > > I read it as 'technical trouble with this list'. You're right, though: > now that we have listmoms the footer needs

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014, Tanstaafl wrote: > I thought this list had some minimal etiquette requirements? Yes. See our code of conduct. > Do the list[masters] really allow comments like the above to stand? We do not announce actions that we take publicly. If you have a complaint about behavior on De

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/10/2014 8:47 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > If systemd can stand on its own, it doesn't have to be defended > against every "whinger" that comes along. > > (And I'll have you know that many, probably most of those you accuse > of being whiners are very busy working out alternatives. And part of > t

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Chris Bannister writes: > I read that as 'trouble unsubscribing?' then Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org. I read it as 'technical trouble with this list'. You're right, though: now that we have listmoms the footer needs to be redone. File a wishlist bug. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Tanstaafl writes: > >>> And because some devs want to placate those whiners, we get interminable >>> political games and good people quitting the project. >>> >>> Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the >>>

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:40:09AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > The listadmins act on things that they notice, or are brought to their > attention. They are rather busy and all volunteers. If you think a post to > this (list or any other Debian list) is in breach of the code of conduct, > plea

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Tanstaafl writes: >> And because some devs want to placate those whiners, we get interminable >> political games and good people quitting the project. >> >> Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the >> whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD? > > Wow.

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 04:35:16AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > I thought this list had some minimal etiquette requirements? Do the list > moms really allow comments like the above to stand? If so, I guess > Debian has fallen farther than I thought, and maybe it *is* time to look > elsewhere - even th

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/8/2014 10:03 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. A developer with a lot of contributions is > chased away by the noise made by a bunch of whiners who can't even be > bothered to set up a test server. Obviously you didn't bother to read his posts. His problem was not

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Carl writes: > Really? I may have unthinkingly assumed everyone reading was a native > speaker is American English. In my dialect, "out" means "openly > homosexual" far more often than "quitting". The joke had nothing to do > with Mr. Hess and everything to do with mocking my own first reading >

Re: Joey Hess is out?

shawn wilson wrote: On Nov 8, 2014 12:24 PM, "Miles Fidelman" > wrote: > > Mart van de Wege wrote: >> >> Slavko mailto:li...@slavino.sk>> writes: >> >>> Ahoj, >>> >>> Dňa Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:03:46 +0100 Mart van de Wege >>> mailto:mvdw...@gmail.com>> napísal:

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Nov 8, 2014 12:24 PM, "Miles Fidelman" wrote: > > Mart van de Wege wrote: >> >> Slavko writes: >> >>> Ahoj, >>> >>> Dňa Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:03:46 +0100 Mart van de Wege >>> napísal: >>> Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the whole time and fuck off to

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Nov 9, 2014 4:46 AM, "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 05:38:59PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > What part of "we don't want systemd on any of our systems" don't you > > get? If we don't want it, we won't be testing it. > > There's still plenty of work to be done testin

Re: Preset freeze and release dates - was Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Du, 09 nov 14, 03:17:59, Bret Busby wrote: > > I do not know what version number was sarge, but, from memory, > regarding Debian Linux 3 and 3.1, people complained and joked about > the long time between releases, and how at that time, it was a "It > will happen when it happens, maybe in a year

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 08:52:32PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > That the moaners have their way and have driven out a reallly good developer > for daring to disagree with them. Unless he says otherwise, I do not think it is fait to attribute Joey's leaving to the moaners. The most likely explanation

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 05:38:59PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > What part of "we don't want systemd on any of our systems" don't you > get? If we don't want it, we won't be testing it. There's still plenty of work to be done testing upgrade paths for sysvinit; improving systemd-shim; patching

Re: Joey Hess is out?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 9/11/2014 2:03 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Andrew McGlashan writes: > >> On 8/11/2014 7:51 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: >>> The fact that the Constitution is being used to ram a GR down the >>> developers' throats two weeks before Jessie freeze

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:16:38 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: >> That didn't even cross my mind. American? Or just your circle? > > His circle. > >> Would the Tea Party concur? > > That meaning of "out" being at the top of the mind is more a San > Francisco sort of thing. Possibly a

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/08/2014 06:01 PM, golinux wrote: Subject: Re: Joey Hess is out? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:49 PM Anyone else read the subject line and think, "Why would I care that Joey is gay?" Did yo

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Subject: Re: Joey Hess is out? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:49 PM Anyone else read the subject line and think, "Why would I care that Joey is gay?" Did you actually READ Joey's post. Thos

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/07/2014 06:20 PM, golinux wrote: On Fri, 11/7/14, Carl Fink wrote: Subject: Re: Joey Hess is out? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:49 PM Anyone else read the subject line and think, "Why would I care that Joey i

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/07/2014 06:20 PM, golinux wrote: On Fri, 11/7/14, Carl Fink wrote: Subject: Re: Joey Hess is out? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:49 PM Anyone else read the subject line and think, "Why would I care that Joey i

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Lisi writes: > That didn't even cross my mind. American? Or just your circle? His circle. > Would the Tea Party concur? That meaning of "out" being at the top of the mind is more a San Francisco sort of thing. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Saturday 08 November 2014 21:07:50 Carl Fink wrote: > The humor (which clearly failed) Sadly, humour - and humor ;-) - travels poorly. There have been English English jokes on this list that would probably not travel even as far as Scotland. And I am hardly renowned for my outstanding wit a

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 08:52:32PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > That didn't even cross my mind. American? Or just your circle? Would the > Tea Party concur? I took it to mean exactly what it did mean. That the > moaners have their way and have driven out a reallly good developer for > daring

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Saturday 08 November 2014 17:31:48 Keith Peter wrote: > We need to work from examples and bugs rather than from grand sweeping > statements. You may not approve of 'whiners', but you will I assume > accept (sensible, non political/contrived) bug reports? Of course. The problem is that the "whi

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Saturday 08 November 2014 17:12:39 Carl wrote: > Really? I may have unthinkingly assumed everyone reading was a native > speaker is American English. In my dialect, "out" means "openly homosexual" > far more often than "quitting". The joke had nothing to do with Mr. Hess > and everything to do w

Preset freeze and release dates - was Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 09/11/2014, Sven Hartge wrote: > Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >> I would rather it be done right [release...], than be done by an >> otherwise /not/ necessary arbitrary date for a freeze. > > I'd like to remind you that not having a pre-set freeze date didn't go > so well in the past. Getting Sar

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 8 November 2014 16:48, Mart van de Wege wrote: > "David L. Craig" writes: > >> On 14Nov08:1603+0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: >> >>> Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. A developer with a lot of contributions is >>> chased away by the noise made by a bunch of whiners who can't even be >>> bothered to

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Mart van de Wege wrote: Slavko writes: Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:03:46 +0100 Mart van de Wege napísal: Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD? This is exact example why i stopped all my contributio

Re: Joey Hess is out?

st reading of the subject line. On November 7, 2014 9:20:47 PM EST, golinux wrote: >On Fri, 11/7/14, Carl Fink wrote: > > Subject: Re: Joey Hess is out? > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:49 PM > >> Anyone else read the subject

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Slavko writes: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:03:46 +0100 Mart van de Wege > napísal: > >> Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the >> whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD? > > This is exact example why i stopped all my contribution to Debian

Re: Joey Hess is out?

"David L. Craig" writes: > On 14Nov08:1603+0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: > >> Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. A developer with a lot of contributions is >> chased away by the noise made by a bunch of whiners who can't even be >> bothered to set up a test server. >> >> And because some devs want to

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 14Nov08:1603+0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. A developer with a lot of contributions is > chased away by the noise made by a bunch of whiners who can't even be > bothered to set up a test server. > > And because some devs want to placate those whiners, we get inte

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Andrew McGlashan wrote: > I would rather it be done right [release...], than be done by an > otherwise /not/ necessary arbitrary date for a freeze. I'd like to remind you that not having a pre-set freeze date didn't go so well in the past. Getting Sarge out for example took ages, because there w

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:03:46 +0100 Mart van de Wege napísal: > Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the > whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD? This is exact example why i stopped all my contribution to Debian, and i will not start it agai

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Andrew McGlashan writes: > On 8/11/2014 7:51 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: >> The fact that the Constitution is being used to ram a GR down the >> developers' throats two weeks before Jessie freeze may have a teensy bit >> to do wit that? > > Maybe so, but that in itself is sad. I'm sure this woul

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Hello Bret and All Mr Hess was writing to the 1000+ Debian developers so the subject line *may* have made instant sense to them, but I take the wider point. We had better explain the 'so long and thanks for all the fish' quote as well (looking at your sig) for the benefit of others. In one of the

Re: Joey Hess is out?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 8/11/2014 7:51 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > The fact that the Constitution is being used to ram a GR down the > developers' throats two weeks before Jessie freeze may have a teensy bit > to do wit that? Maybe so, but that in itself is sad. I'm

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Kelly Clowers writes: > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:19 PM, golinux wrote: >> Joey Hess is leaving Debian. Anybody have a context? Anything to do with >> the systemd controversy and the monolithic direction Debian is going? >> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00174.html >> > > I

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 08/11/2014, Carl Fink wrote: > Anyone else read the subject line and think, "Why would I care that Joey is > gay?" > -- I read the subject line, and got the impression that someone had been released from prison. Clarity and unambiguousness are important in email message subject fields. -- B

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On 11/08/2014 12:48 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:19 PM, golinux wrote: Joey Hess is leaving Debian. Anybody have a context? Anything to do with the systemd controversy and the monolithic direction Debian is going? https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00174.ht

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 21:48 -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: > Personally I wonder what specifically he thinks makes the > Debian Constitution a "toxic document". Me too,... I had never considered the constitution as that problematic,... I rather thing the Code of Conduct is going to cause major issues

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:19 PM, golinux wrote: > Joey Hess is leaving Debian. Anybody have a context? Anything to do with > the systemd controversy and the monolithic direction Debian is going? > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00174.html > I mean, with all the fighting that

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Fri, 11/7/14, Carl Fink wrote: Subject: Re: Joey Hess is out? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:49 PM Anyone else read the subject line and think, "Why would I care that Joey is gay?" Did you act

Re: Joey Hess is out?

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Carl Fink wrote: > Anyone else read [something] and think, [some inappropriate misreading] > -- > Carl Fink nitpick...@nitpicking.com > > Read my blog at blog.nitpicking.com. Reviews! Observations! > Stupid mistakes you can correct! Som

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Anyone else read the subject line and think, "Why would I care that Joey is gay?" -- Carl Fink nitpick...@nitpicking.com Read my blog at blog.nitpicking.com. Reviews! Observations! Stupid mistakes you can correct! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lis

Re: Joey Hess is out?

https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00174.html On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Sad to read that. Joey is one of the most recognizable names in the > project. 18 years is quite some time, thanks for everything you have > done to make my computing experience w

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Sad to read that. Joey is one of the most recognizable names in the project. 18 years is quite some time, thanks for everything you have done to make my computing experience what it has been for the past 15 years that I've used Debian and followed the project. Whatever you do next, Joey, I hope