Gene Heskett writes:
I see, and many thanks for the link. The one thing it doesn't explain
however, is why the USTPO allowed 2 different entities to patent the lzw
algorythm. That is still a puzzlement to me, but what do I know.
One does not patent an algorithm. One patents an invention
From: John Hasler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:58 AM
...
I have no doubt that Debian contains hundreds of potential
infringements of IBM patents.
That wouldn't surprise me. If someone violates your patent and you fail
to defend it in any meaningful way, you
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 06:06:09PM -0600, Seth Goodman wrote:
That wouldn't surprise me. If someone violates your patent and you fail
to defend it in any meaningful way, you are considered to have
abandoned the patent and it becomes effectively void. Defending it can
be as simple as
Seth Goodman writes:
If someone violates your patent and you fail to defend it in any
meaningful way, you are considered to have abandoned the patent and it
becomes effectively void.
This is not true. You are confounding patents and trademarks.
My non-lawyer understanding is that for all
Carl Fink wrote:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
IIRC one of the algorithms that can be used in zip is lzw which is (or
was) patented.
The patent expired in 2003.
http://www.sslug.dk/patent/lzwunisys.html
The license was owned by
On Thursday 15 December 2005 19:29, Gabriel wrote:
Carl Fink wrote:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
IIRC one of the algorithms that can be used in zip is lzw which
is (or was) patented.
The patent expired in 2003.
http://www.sslug.dk/patent/lzwunisys.html
The
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Thursday 15 December 2005 19:29, Gabriel wrote:
Carl Fink wrote:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
IIRC one of the algorithms that can be used in zip is lzw which
is (or was) patented.
On Thursday 15 December 2005 20:40, Gabriel wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Thursday 15 December 2005 19:29, Gabriel wrote:
Carl Fink wrote:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
IIRC one of the algorithms that can be used in zip is lzw
which is (or was) patented.
The
Gene Heskett wrote:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html
I see, and many thanks for the link. The one thing it doesn't explain
however, is why the USTPO allowed 2 different entities to patent the
lzw algorythm. That is still a puzzlement to me, but what do I know.
Umm, I haven't read
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Thursday 15 December 2005 20:40, Gabriel wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Thursday 15 December 2005 19:29, Gabriel wrote:
Carl Fink wrote:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb
On Thursday 15 December 2005 22:15, Mike McCarty wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html
I see, and many thanks for the link. The one thing it doesn't
explain however, is why the USTPO allowed 2 different entities to
patent the lzw algorythm. That is still a
From: Steve Lamb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:49 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
Mike McCarty wrote:
It is distributed with a BSD like license. IOW, you can
redistribute, and source is available
From: Seth Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:02 PM
I know this is a Debian list, but there is Windows tool called 7-zip
There is a port of this tool in Debian unstable
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/p7zip so hopefully this at
least provides
Seth Goodman wrote:
From: Steve Lamb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:49 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
Mike McCarty wrote:
It is distributed with a BSD like license. IOW, you can
redistribute, and source
Seth Goodman wrote:
I know this is a Debian list, but there is Windows tool called 7-zip
that is distributed under the LGPL that can deal with zip, tar, gz and
bz2. This makes me suspect that there cannot be any patent hindrances
to the zip format itself.
IIRC one of the algorithms that
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
IIRC one of the algorithms that can be used in zip is lzw which is (or
was) patented.
The patent expired in 2003.
http://www.sslug.dk/patent/lzwunisys.html
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL
From: Carl Fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:21 PM
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
IIRC one of the algorithms that can be used in zip is
lzw which is (or was) patented.
The patent expired in 2003.
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 22:49 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
--snip--
Yes, Alex, and you're showing your ignorance again.
Steve, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from referring to me
explicitly by name. Establishing a false sense of familiarity,
particularly in a discussion which is
Alex Malinovich wrote:
Steve, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from referring to me
explicitly by name. Establishing a false sense of familiarity,
No familiarity at all. It's called getting your attention since it seems
to be wandering.
tar cf - *.png | split -b 1m
for i in
Alex Malinovich wrote:
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 21:47 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote:
--snip--
[snip]
To put it another way, are you aware that hard discs have redundancy
in them to allow one to recover corrupted sectors? By your reasoning,
this could not be put on the same disc, it would have to be
Steve Lamb wrote:
Alex Malinovich wrote:
This is a good point. But this is also not a feature specific to RAR, as
you point out. Zip archives, among others, can do this as well.
But you weren't talking zip. 'sides, not that zip is any freer than RAR,
at least not to my knowledge. Feel
Mike McCarty wrote:
It is distributed with a BSD like license. IOW, you can redistribute,
and source is available, but they retain rights. But no charge
(unless you meant something different by the term free).
Free of patent and royalty issues which ZIP is not entirely. :)
--
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 23:35 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
Wesley J. Landaker wrote:
Well, just use md5sum, sha1sum, etc.
Against what, exactly? How do these verify the contents within that
discrete piece of the archive?
The same way that RAR does. They tell you whether that discreet part
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 08:00:45PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
Sean Davis wrote:
split(1). Been around since ATT Version 6.
Now verify each portion has no errors in it with split. Oh, wait, ya
can't. That's because it is just a rough split and not an actual archive
which can be
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:35:32 -0600
Gnu-Raiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 17:32, Sun 11 Dec 05, Alex Malinovich wrote:
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 17:59 -0600, Gnu-Raiz wrote:
--snip--
will probably laugh at you. How else are you going to get a
uniform file size of say 15mb each in your sample
Alex Malinovich wrote:
The same way that RAR does. They tell you whether that discreet part of
the archive is corrupted or not. If it is corrupted it's just as useless
whether it's a RAR archive or any other type of archive.
Bzt, try again. I asked against what. You create the archives
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 16:15 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
Alex Malinovich wrote:
The same way that RAR does. They tell you whether that discreet part of
the archive is corrupted or not. If it is corrupted it's just as useless
whether it's a RAR archive or any other type of archive.
Bzt,
Alex Malinovich wrote:
That's why you include a checksums file with the archive set and/or list
the sums at the point of origin (web site, FTP site, etc).
Which still tells you nothing of the files inside.
9. Added support of so called recovery volumes (.rev files), which can be used
to
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 18:51 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
Alex Malinovich wrote:
--snip--
I don't know, maybe I'm just dense or something, but explain to me why
you would WANT to put that information in the archive itself?
What, the checksums? Uh, so the reference is where you need it,
Alex Malinovich wrote:
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 18:51 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
Alex Malinovich wrote:
--snip--
I've refrained from joining in, so far, but I just can't
resist :-)
I don't know, maybe I'm just dense or something, but explain to me why
you would WANT to put that information
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 21:47 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote:
--snip--
This is not quite true. Usually, with a disc file or a file transmitted
over a link of some sort, a block of bytes gets corrupted, usually with
a size on the order of 1KB. If an archive is much larger than 1KB (the
usual case, in
Alex Malinovich wrote:
This is all assuming that the portion of the file that got corrupted
ISN'T the portion storing the checksum data. If it is, the file is of no
use to you.
*sigh* As you said, it doesn't matter what is corrupt if there is
corruption. But this is a far sight better
Alex Malinovich wrote:
This is a good point. But this is also not a feature specific to RAR, as
you point out. Zip archives, among others, can do this as well.
But you weren't talking zip. 'sides, not that zip is any freer than RAR,
at least not to my knowledge. Feel free to point out if
On Saturday 10 December 2005 23:35, Gabriel wrote:
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know a free software alternative to RAR???
[snip]
You might try unrar-free.
Have fun
Eike
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:35:35 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oliver Lupton wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:02:50 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know a free software alternative to RAR???
Use 'tar' combined with gzip or bzip2 to create a .tar.gz or
Micha Feigin wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:35:35 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oliver Lupton wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:02:50 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know a free software alternative to RAR???
Use 'tar' combined with
On 22:21, Sat 10 Dec 05, Jacob S wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:00:26 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Kemp wrote:
apt-cache search rar unrar
Gives you this in the output:
unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files
unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free
On 12:58, Sun 11 Dec 05, Micha Feigin wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:35:35 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oliver Lupton wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:02:50 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know a free software alternative to RAR???
Gnu_Raiz writes:
This is one program that I believe is worth buying the license for. This
is especially true if you have any windows machine's around. If you use
Usenet for any amount of time you will find that this program is a must
have.
Interesting. I've been on Usenet for twenty years
John Hasler wrote:
Gnu_Raiz writes:
This is one program that I believe is worth buying the license for. This
is especially true if you have any windows machine's around. If you use
Usenet for any amount of time you will find that this program is a must
have.
Interesting. I've been
Gnu-Raiz wrote:
The Window Version comes with the nice GUI, where as the
*nix version is only commandline. If one really needs the
GUI you can run it under wine.
You are one of those guys that like to complex their life just for fun? ;-)
You need to unrar a .rar file, and you will install
Jacob S wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:00:26 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Kemp wrote:
apt-cache search rar unrar
Gives you this in the output:
unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files
unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free
On 11:49, Sun 11 Dec 05, John Hasler wrote:
Gnu_Raiz writes:
This is one program that I believe is worth buying the license for. This
is especially true if you have any windows machine's around. If you use
Usenet for any amount of time you will find that this program is a must
have.
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 17:59 -0600, Gnu-Raiz wrote:
--snip--
will probably laugh at you. How else are you going to get a
uniform file size of say 15mb each in your sample if you
don't use rar?
tar cz sample/ | split -db 15m - sample.tar.gz
Would work just fine for me.
Or, if you have to use
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 05:59:41PM -0600, Gnu-Raiz wrote:
On 11:49, Sun 11 Dec 05, John Hasler wrote:
Gnu_Raiz writes:
This is one program that I believe is worth buying the license for. This
is especially true if you have any windows machine's around. If you use
Usenet for any amount
Sean Davis wrote:
split(1). Been around since ATT Version 6.
Now verify each portion has no errors in it with split. Oh, wait, ya
can't. That's because it is just a rough split and not an actual archive
which can be verified.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your
On Sunday 11 December 2005 21:00, Steve Lamb wrote:
Sean Davis wrote:
split(1). Been around since ATT Version 6.
Now verify each portion has no errors in it with split. Oh, wait, ya
can't. That's because it is just a rough split and not an actual archive
which can be verified.
Well,
On 17:32, Sun 11 Dec 05, Alex Malinovich wrote:
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 17:59 -0600, Gnu-Raiz wrote:
--snip--
will probably laugh at you. How else are you going to get a
uniform file size of say 15mb each in your sample if you
don't use rar?
tar cz sample/ | split -db 15m - sample.tar.gz
Wesley J. Landaker wrote:
Well, just use md5sum, sha1sum, etc.
Against what, exactly? How do these verify the contents within that
discrete piece of the archive?
Or use .zip with zipsplit -n . . . I
don't see that rar has any particular advantage there.
Point being was that split is
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:02:50 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know a free software alternative to RAR???
Use 'tar' combined with gzip or bzip2 to create a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2
man tar, man bzip2 and man gzip for more info :)
HTH
-ol
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Oliver Lupton wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:02:50 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know a free software alternative to RAR???
Use 'tar' combined with gzip or bzip2 to create a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2
man tar, man bzip2 and man gzip for more info :)
HTH
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:35:35PM -0300, Gabriel wrote:
yeah, I know that, but I was talking about a program to decompress RAR
files... I know I don't really need it, but today a friend sent me a rar
file and I needed to tell him to recompress it as zip and send it
again... (of
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:35:35 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yeah, I know that, but I was talking about a program to decompress RAR
files...
Ah okay, I misinterpreted what you meant :)
Cheers,
-ol
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Steve Kemp wrote:
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:35:35PM -0300, Gabriel wrote:
yeah, I know that, but I was talking about a program to decompress RAR
files... I know I don't really need it, but today a friend sent me a rar
file and I needed to tell him to recompress it as
Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:02:50PM -0300, Gabriel написал:
Does anyone know a free software alternative to RAR???
apt-cache search rar|grep archiv
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:00:26 -0300
Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Kemp wrote:
apt-cache search rar unrar
Gives you this in the output:
unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files
unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)
^
Thank you so much... I had
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