Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:23:16AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Thomas Adam writes: As I have said, if the file was created by an application, then it clearly cannot belong to a package. The question was about files created by the maintainer scripts. Was it now? I don't believe so, although

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:24:45AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 01:54:41PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:49:57AM -0400, Jason Rennie wrote: dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ... Search for a filename from

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Paul Gear
Jason Rennie wrote: ... Geez. Try answering the question, not insulting the guy. Don't worry - i'm used to it on this list by now... :-) -- Paul http://paulgear.webhop.net -- Did you know? Email addresses can be forged easily. This message is signed with GNU Privacy Guard

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread John Summerfield
files on the fly is broken. I much prefer this: # to list configuration files [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qc glibc-2.3.2-120 /etc/nscd.conf /etc/rpc #to find what owns a configuration file: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qf /etc/defaultdomain netcfg-9.0-7 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ To find what documentation

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Thomas Adam wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 10:28:09PM +1000, Paul Gear wrote: Is it fairly common, then, that packages only create their config files, and don't include them in the package originally. I can see times when Of course it is. There are *hundreds* of files

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Thomas Adam wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:23:16AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Just off the top of my head I see no reason why these files could not be included in the package empty and filled in by the scripts. This would identify the files as belonging to the

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
John Hasler writes: Just off the top of my head I see no reason why these files could not be included in the package empty and filled in by the scripts. This would identify the files as belonging to the package and also allow dpkg to remove them, eliminating the need for the postrm to do so.

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 11:33:09AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Thomas Adam wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 10:28:09PM +1000, Paul Gear wrote: Is it fairly common, then, that packages only create their config files, and don't include them in the package

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Rthoreau
as a good solution. It works for packages that dpkg knows about. But then that could be said of the same for rpm -qf. Rthoreau -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Carl Fink
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:22:16AM -0500, Rthoreau wrote: Why just use our trusty old friend find? Because the question is Which package was responsible for creating this conffile? How can find answer that? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: Just off the top of my head I see no reason why these files [created by maintainer scripts] could not be included in the package empty and filled in by the scripts. This would identify the files as belonging to the package and also allow dpkg to remove them, eliminating the need for

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread John Hasler
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: Actually, we have been requesting this functionality to the dpkg crew for a while. It will arrive someday. The idea is that we will register dynamically-created stuff with a package in the maintainer script. That's a good solution. It deals with the

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread John Hasler
Rthoreau writes: Why just use our trusty old friend find? also you have locate, whereis, and a bunch of others, I must say find can do about anything. How do you propose to get find to tell you which files were created by a particular package, or which package created a particular file? File

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Martin Dickopp
Thomas Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:24:45AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 01:54:41PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:49:57AM -0400, Jason Rennie wrote: dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread John Hasler
Martin writes: One possibility would be that the maintainer script which creates the file stores the filename in something like /var/lib/dpkg/info/PACKAGE.createdfiles. Gaak! No! The archive must _only_ be accessed via the packaging system tools. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Frank Küster
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and having a lot of empty files in /etc is just pointless. Where would any empty files come from? How should a package tell dpkg to install an empty file, if it needs that? Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel Abt.

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Tim Kelley
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 10:18:08PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Seems to me the idea of creating configuration files on the fly is broken. I much prefer this: Yes, so how exactly, for example, is phpmyadmin supposed to touch files, such as httpd.conf, so that it works and is properly

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Martin Dickopp
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin writes: One possibility would be that the maintainer script which creates the file stores the filename in something like /var/lib/dpkg/info/PACKAGE.createdfiles. Gaak! No! The archive must _only_ be accessed via the packaging system tools. I

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 11:35:28AM -0500, Tim Kelley wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 10:18:08PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Seems to me the idea of creating configuration files on the fly is broken. I much prefer this: Yes, so how exactly, for example, is phpmyadmin supposed to touch

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread John Summerfield
Tim Kelley wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 10:18:08PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Seems to me the idea of creating configuration files on the fly is broken. I much prefer this: Yes, so how exactly, for example, is phpmyadmin supposed to touch files, such as httpd.conf, so that it works

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:57:42AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: 1. That I want to start a daemon as soon as I've installed it Typically I want to install at the office, configure in the field. So download the files but don't complete the install until you're in the field. The -d flag to

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread John Summerfield
Paul E Condon wrote: It appears that there are two distinct roles for packages with respect to files: 1 the .deb of the package contains an initial copy of the file 2 the package programs/scripts are permitted/expected to maintain and update the file as needed. It is unually assumed that only one

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:06:50PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: 3. That if I have KDE|GNOME|whatever DTE installed I always want to run it when I boot. Okay, that annoys me, too. rcconf is quite handy. But removing the symlinks in /etc/rc?.d/* for whatever DM is running, or editing

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread John Hasler
Thomas Adam writes: ...But removing the symlinks in /etc/rc?.d/* for whatever DM is running... If you remove them they will be recreated when you upgrade the package. Sysvconfig allows you to disable stuff. Just select Enable/Disable in the main menu and follow directions. -- John Hasler

Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

2004-08-24 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 06:00:47PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and having a lot of empty files in /etc is just pointless. Where would any empty files come from? How should a package tell dpkg to install an empty file, if it needs that?

Re: rpm packages Debian

2004-08-13 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 02:41:08PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 2 rpm packages that I want to install on a Sarge system. Can someone give me a hint or a link as to how to do that. Michael Hi M, the first rule of DEBIAN club is to use

rpm packages Debian

2004-08-12 Thread michael . sherman
I have 2 rpm packages that I want to install on a Sarge system. Can someone give me a hint or a link as to how to do that. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: rpm packages Debian

2004-08-12 Thread Brian Pack
On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 2 rpm packages that I want to install on a Sarge system. Can someone give me a hint or a link as to how to do that. Michael Try alien -i filename.rpm signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: rpm packages Debian

2004-08-12 Thread Paul Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have 2 rpm packages that I want to install on a Sarge system. Can someone give me a hint or a link as to how to do that. alien might be able to convert them to .debs for you. pgpieaqieoalo.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: rpm packages Debian

2004-08-12 Thread Peter O
On August 12, 2004 02:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 2 rpm packages that I want to install on a Sarge system. Can someone give me a hint or a link as to how to do that. Michael You can convert them to debs using alien command and then install the debs: apt-get install alien alient

Re: RPM kontra DEB

2004-06-17 Thread ajbm
Dzięki. Właśnie o apt-file mi chodziło. apt-file update szuka plików Contents.gz, w których jest zawarty spis plików pakietów. Jednakże mam płytę DVD z Debian Sarge z Linux Magazine i niestety apt-file nie znajduje tam tego pliku (Contents*), więc nie może odczytać listy plików. Czy można

RE: rpm sorunu

2004-06-16 Thread Enver ALTIN
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 01:57 +0300, Selçuk SARAÇ wrote: Roots.gen.tr'ın A adresi 1.2.3.4 Ve roots.gen.tr'ın MX adresi 5.6.7.8 Fakat sarge üzerindeki postfix e-mail'i göndermek için 1.2.3.4'e bağlanmaya çalışıyor... /etc/hosts dosyanız Postfix'i yanıltıyor olmalı. -- __ | | |

RE: rpm sorunu

2004-06-10 Thread Selçuk SARAÇ
Selamlar; Sarge üzerinde hiç bu sorunu yaşayan var mı bilmiyorum ama garip bir problem yaşıyorum. Sarge default kurulumu yapıyorum, exim4'ü iptal ederek postfix default kurulum gerçekleştiriyorum. Deneme amaçlı bir e-mail gönderiyorum, gönderilen adres - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roots.gen.tr'ın A

Re: RPM kontra DEB

2004-06-09 Thread Wawrzyniec Niewodniczański
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wiele razy słyszałem opinie nad wyższością deb-ów nad rpm-ami. A ja słyszałem rzecz wręcz naprzeciwną i to od osoby, która się z pewnością na tym zna (Sergiusz Pawłowicz). Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec NiewodniczańskiE-MAIL: niewod

RPM kontra DEB

2004-06-08 Thread ajbm
Wiele razy słyszałem opinie nad wyższością deb-ów nad rpm-ami. Lecz RPM-y w aktualnej wersji możliwości mają zbliżone do deb-ów. Również mogą być aktualizowane z różnych źródeł, (np. ftp, http, cdrom, dysk twardy), działa sprawdzanie zależności, instalowanie zależnych pakietów... Jest również

Re: RPM kontra DEB

2004-06-08 Thread Karol Czachorowski
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 19:00:11 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wiele razy słyszałem opinie nad wyższością deb-ów nad rpm-ami. Lecz RPM-y w aktualnej wersji możliwości mają zbliżone do deb-ów. Również mogą być aktualizowane z różnych źródeł, (np. ftp, http, cdrom, dysk twardy), działa

Re: RPM kontra DEB

2004-06-08 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 07:00:11PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wiele razy słyszałem opinie nad wyższością deb-ów nad rpm-ami. Tak samo jak wiele razy ja słyszałem odwrotne ;) Lecz RPM-y w aktualnej wersji możliwości mają zbliżone do deb-ów. Również mogą być aktualizowane z różnych

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-25 Thread Lorenzo Prince
Thus spake dircha: # Paul Johnson wrote: # What's wrong with, Make me a Debian package or lose a customer? # # I'd venture to guess: # We're sorry, but we can not presently justify the costs of maintaining a # Debian port. Perhaps if one of our larger customers express an interest # in it...

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-19 Thread Paul Johnson
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 18 May 2004, Paul Johnson wrote: Anything proprietary is automatically a toy to me. ...which is why your opinion is utterly worthless. I'm not asking anyone to like proprietary software or the corporate environment but at least know your

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul Johnson: dircha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Johnson wrote: What's wrong with, Make me a Debian package or lose a customer? I'd venture to guess: We're sorry, but we can not presently justify the costs of maintaining a Debian port. Perhaps if one of our larger

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Paul Johnson wrote: My understanding is this is a vocal minority decreasing in size as more good, free software comes out. You are thinking perhaps of of office productivity software? Proprietary software is sort of a band-aid for a real solution, or a toy for after work. A toy for after

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Adam Funk
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 07:00, Paul Johnson wrote: Wow, Ian's being rather optimistic in thinking that RPM can overcome it's own shortcomings to stop sucking. Such as, 1) distro-dependent RPMs, RPM isn't standardized like Deb is. 2) Naming conventions. RPM isn't standardized. 3) Per-file

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Adam Funk
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 07:00, Paul Johnson wrote: Dominique Dumont wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: #rpm -ivh myproduct-xxx-xx.rpm As other people have written doing this is not a good thing. Put yourself in the other position. I have a .deb file from Debian. I

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Connors [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Mon, 17 May 2004 22:37:44 -0700: dircha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd venture to guess: We're sorry, but we can not presently justify the costs of maintaining a

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world (was: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?)

2004-05-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, May 17, 2004 at 11:07:01AM +0200, Dominique Dumont ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: and I found that it can't find files it need in deb DB,I had been tried to install it on debian, #rpm -ivh myproduct-xxx-xx.rpm the program will prompt

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Tim Connors
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Mon, 17 May 2004 22:37:44 -0700: dircha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd venture to guess: We're sorry, but we can not presently justify the costs of maintaining a Debian port. Perhaps if one of our larger customers express an interest in it... So

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Tim Connors
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Connors [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because all software sucks. And if it doesn't the hardware sucks. And if *it* doesn't, then the firmware must surely suck. Debian. Because software doesn't have

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Dominique Dumont
libncurses4.rpm. - no libncurses4.deb is found - some rpm database (on disk or on-line ?) is queried for the content of libncurses4.rpm - some rules (to be defined ...) are applied to avoid requiring unnecessary files (like package doc ?) - Debian database is queried for missing files, ncurses4.deb

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Dominique Dumont
Adam Funk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow, Ian's being rather optimistic in thinking that RPM can overcome it's own shortcomings to stop sucking. Such as, 1) distro-dependent RPMs, RPM isn't standardized like Deb is. 2) Naming conventions. RPM isn't standardized. 3) Per-file dependencies

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Adam Funk: use and produce RPMs whereas (as far as I know) only Debian uses deb packages and people produce them specifically for Debian? (I'm not That's arguable. There's Debian, and then there's Knoppix, Morphix, Libranet, Lindows, ... -- Any technology distinguishable

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Paul Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: Paul Johnson wrote: My understanding is this is a vocal minority decreasing in size as more good, free software comes out. You are thinking perhaps of of office productivity software? Proprietary software is sort of a band-aid for a real solution, or

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Paul Johnson
Adam Funk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday 18 May 2004 07:00, Paul Johnson wrote: Wow, Ian's being rather optimistic in thinking that RPM can overcome it's own shortcomings to stop sucking. Such as, 1) distro-dependent RPMs, RPM isn't standardized like Deb is. 2) Naming conventions

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Paul Johnson
s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Incoming from Adam Funk: use and produce RPMs whereas (as far as I know) only Debian uses deb packages and people produce them specifically for Debian? (I'm not That's arguable. There's Debian, and then there's Knoppix, Morphix, Libranet,

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-18 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Paul Johnson wrote: Anything proprietary is automatically a toy to me. ...which is why your opinion is utterly worthless. I'm not asking anyone to like proprietary software or the corporate environment but at least know your enemy if nothing else. Mindless zealotry does

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world (was: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?)

2004-05-18 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 17 May 2004, Dominique Dumont wrote: Sure. Be if one can easily install rpm packages on a Debian system, this would be a good message sent to the corporate world. I don't think so. The kind of corporate type who even know there is such a difference will understand why .debs

Debian, rpm and corporate world (was: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?)

2004-05-17 Thread Dominique Dumont
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: and I found that it can't find files it need in deb DB,I had been tried to install it on debian, #rpm -ivh myproduct-xxx-xx.rpm the program will prompt: myproduct need perl 5.6, and the bash must be installed As other people have written doing

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Dominique Dumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Currently there is big chicken and egg problem with Debian in the corporate world. Corporate guys want to be able to install software from ISV (like Oracle). ISVs only provide their proprietary software as rpm because not many corporation ask

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-17 Thread dircha
Paul Johnson wrote: Dominique Dumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Currently there is big chicken and egg problem with Debian in the corporate world. Corporate guys want to be able to install software from ISV (like Oracle). ISVs only provide their proprietary software as rpm because not many

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world (was: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?)

2004-05-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Dominique Dumont wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: #rpm -ivh myproduct-xxx-xx.rpm As other people have written doing this is not a good thing. Put yourself in the other position. I have a .deb file from Debian. I want to install it on a RH system. Should I insist

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world (was: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?)

2004-05-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 04:10:39PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Dominique Dumont wrote: So the questions are now: - does the Debian community want Debian to be used in corporate world to run *proprietary* softwares ? Personally, yes. I think many people have that ideal. It is written

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-17 Thread Paul Johnson
software as rpm because not many corporation ask for Debian. Corporation do not ask for Debian because most ISVs don't provide Debian packages. IMHO, the only way to break this circle is to provide a way to install rpm that doesn't look like a hack. What's wrong with, Make me a Debian package

Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world

2004-05-17 Thread Paul Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: Dominique Dumont wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: #rpm -ivh myproduct-xxx-xx.rpm As other people have written doing this is not a good thing. Put yourself in the other position. I have a .deb file from Debian. I want

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-15 Thread dircha
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 05:40:51PM +0800, Rick wrote: Hello People: Our product is base on redhat,I will porting it to Debian,but in this system,many procedure depend redhat rpms,for example: glibc-2.3.2-11.9.i386.rpm, perl-5.8.0-88.i386.rpm,etc.. At the start,I wanted to try install

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 01:16:09AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 09:50:00PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: I imagine there are cases in which this approach won't work, but we see the same thing from people everyday who are limiting themselves to only using debian tools. Just

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-15 Thread Silvan
On Friday 14 May 2004 11:19 pm, Paul E Condon wrote: packages because the Debian community believes its deb packaging system is superior to the rpm system.* Debian also has a social commitment to free * Actually, it _is_ superior, but I'm trying to be nice. Vastly so. No need to be nice

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-15 Thread Silvan
On Saturday 15 May 2004 01:16 am, Kevin Mark wrote: its stability it will get moved to testing. And then if all goes well, it moves into stable. its stability and interaction with other packages are the criteria that the debian packager of an authors work uses to judge when it is moved to

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-15 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Silvan: On Friday 14 May 2004 11:19 pm, Paul E Condon wrote: packages because the Debian community believes its deb packaging system is superior to the rpm system.* Debian also has a social commitment to free * Actually, it _is_ superior, but I'm trying to be nice

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-15 Thread Damon L. Chesser
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Silvan: On Friday 14 May 2004 11:19 pm, Paul E Condon wrote: packages because the Debian community believes its deb packaging system is superior to the rpm system.* Debian also has a social commitment to free * Actually, it _is_ superior, but I'm

Re: Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Rick wrote: Yes,I think so.but our procedure depend rpm format, I think you are confusing a packaging format with your program. You program undoubtedly depends upon shared libraries and other things. But it is packaged into a distribution format. It can be packaged into many different formats

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-15 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Damon L. Chesser: There could be no World Peace while RPM exists freely and is so widely supported by fanatical users with no regard for ease of use or superior methods. We simply can not compromise! Ah, geez. A day doesn't go by lately that someone isn't declaring war

Re: Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-14 Thread Lorenzo Prince
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thus spake Rick: # #rpm -ivh myproduct-xxx-xx.rpm # the program will prompt: myproduct need perl 5.6, and the bash must be installed # In fact,the 2 debian packages has been installed,I think rpm command will read info from only rpm DB on debian

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-14 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 05:40:51PM +0800, Rick wrote: Hello People: Our product is base on redhat,I will porting it to Debian,but in this system,many procedure depend redhat rpms,for example: glibc-2.3.2-11.9.i386.rpm, perl-5.8.0-88.i386.rpm,etc.. At the start,I wanted to try install

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-14 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul E Condon: On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 05:40:51PM +0800, Rick wrote: Our product is base on redhat,I will porting it to Debian,but in this system,many procedure depend redhat rpms,for example: glibc-2.3.2-11.9.i386.rpm, perl-5.8.0-88.i386.rpm,etc.. Some might try

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-14 Thread Kevin Mark
-2.3.2-11.9.i386.rpm, perl-5.8.0-88.i386.rpm,etc.. Some might try to use it. Some might get it to work. Some might even like it. But then those few will ask you to package it as a deb before they buy. The rest will And others will use rpm for rpms and Debian tools for .debs, including alien

Re: Re : Porter des rpm sous debian : quelle est la meilleure methode ?

2004-05-13 Thread Olivier Garet
Salut, Je pense qu'avec ces deux documents là, tu ne devrais pas avoir de problèmes. En fait, c'est assez facile de faire un paquet pour quelque chose qu'on a écrit soit même, car la principale difficulté est de maîtriser le Makefile pour le rendre debian compliant. Debian Binary Package

Re: rpm and Debian

2004-05-13 Thread dircha
Rick wrote: Can I use rpm command to access deb DB? rpm is available in the Debian package of the same name (rpm). However, any packages you install with the rpm command will not be managed by the Debian package management system. .deb is the native package format of a Debian system. You can

Re: rpm and Debian

2004-05-13 Thread Lee Hanxue
On Thu, 13 May 2004 00:58:58 -0500 dircha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [1] http://packages.debian.org [2] http://apt-get.org [3] http://www.backports.org [4] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ [5] http://lists.debian.org Not to forget http://mentors.debian.net You might be able to find

Re: rpm and Debian

2004-05-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 03:32:57PM -0400, Lee Hanxue wrote: On Thu, 13 May 2004 00:58:58 -0500 dircha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [1] http://packages.debian.org [2] http://apt-get.org [3] http://www.backports.org [4] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ [5] http://lists.debian.org

- porter des rpm sous debian - alien : faire des tar ou des .deb ?

2004-05-12 Thread Joseph Pachod
Bonjour la liste ! Je dois porter un bon paquet de package rpm vers du debian et je me demande un peu comment faire. Apres etude de la question il s'avere qu'alien correspond bien a mon probleme mais j aimerai avoir votre avis sur la methode operatoire precise : faut il mieux passer par des

Porter des rpm sous debian : quelle est la meilleure methode ?

2004-05-12 Thread Joseph
Bonjour Je me permets de reposter sur ce sujet qui m'interesse particulierement : quelle est selon vous la meilleure facon de porter des rpm sous debian (en vue d'en faire un jour eventuellement des .deb)? Dans un premier temps je me contente de tout installer (via les src.rpm) et pour cela

Re: Re : Porter des rpm sous debian : quelle est la meilleure methode ?

2004-05-12 Thread Joseph
rpm sous debian (en vue d'en faire un jour eventuellement des . deb)? Dans un premier temps je me contente de tout installer (via les src. rpm) et pour cela j'utilise alien -t (pour faire des tar), qu'en dites vous ? Sous Debian, tu as plus de 1 packages !? cela m'étonnerait fortement

Re : Porter des rpm sous debian : quelle est la meilleure methode ?

2004-05-12 Thread Edi STOJICEVIC
Le 13.05.2004 01:47:42, Joseph a écrit : Bonjour Salut, Je me permets de reposter sur ce sujet qui m'interesse particulierement : quelle est selon vous la meilleure facon de porter des rpm sous debian (en vue d'en faire un jour eventuellement des . deb)? Dans un premier temps je me

rpm sorunu

2004-05-12 Thread Onur BİNGÜL
Woody i ilk kez kurdum ve rpm paketlerini kurmaya çalıştığımda aşağıdaki hata mesajını aldım error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm  rpm initdb ve rpm rebuilddb kullanmayı denedim fakat yine aynı

Re: rpm sorunu

2004-05-12 Thread Selman ULUG
Debian'in standart paket sistemi deb'tir. rpm paketlerin kurulumu sorun yaratir. illaki rpm kumak istiyorsaniz. oncelikle alien kurun: apt-get install alien daha sonra rpm paketinizi asagida komutla deb formatina cevirin: alien --to-deb package.rpm ve dpkg -i package.deb ama internet

Re: rpm sorunu

2004-05-12 Thread Mustafa Salih
alien`la deb`e cevririp bir de oyle kurmayi dene - Original Message - From: Onur BİNGÜL To: debian-user-turkish@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:47 PM Subject: rpm sorunu Woody i ilk kez kurdum ve rpm paketlerini kurmaya çalıştığımda

Re: rpm sorunu

2004-05-12 Thread Recai Oktas
* Onur BİNGÜL [2004-05-12 15:47:02+0300] Woody 'i ilk kez kurdum ve rpm paketlerini kurmaya çalıştığımda aşağıdaki hata mesajını aldım error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm rpm -initdb ve rpm

Re: rpm sorunu

2004-05-12 Thread Selman ULUG
sonucta fener sampiyon olmustur. yasasin debian (biraz alakasiz oldu ama) On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 16:27, Recai Oktas wrote: * Onur BİNGÜL [2004-05-12 15:47:02+0300] Woody 'i ilk kez kurdum ve rpm paketlerini kurmaya çalıştığımda aşağıdaki hata mesajını aldım error: cannot open Packages

Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-12 Thread Rick
Hello People: Our product is base on redhat,I will porting it to Debian,but in this system,many procedure depend redhat rpms,for example: glibc-2.3.2-11.9.i386.rpm, perl-5.8.0-88.i386.rpm,etc.. At the start,I wanted to try install these rpm packages(from redhat) On debian,but I found

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-12 Thread Clive Menzies
On (12/05/04 17:40), Rick wrote: Hello People: Our product is base on redhat,I will porting it to Debian,but in this system,many procedure depend redhat rpms,for example: glibc-2.3.2-11.9.i386.rpm, perl-5.8.0-88.i386.rpm,etc.. At the start,I wanted to try install these rpm packages

Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 05:40:51PM +0800, Rick wrote: Our product is base on redhat,I will porting it to Debian,but in this system,many procedure depend redhat rpms,for example: glibc-2.3.2-11.9.i386.rpm, perl-5.8.0-88.i386.rpm,etc.. At the start,I wanted to try install these rpm

Re: Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-12 Thread Rick
Thank you for your help,I should check the alien manual in detail first.

Re: Re: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?

2004-05-12 Thread Rick
Our product is base on redhat,I will porting it to Debian,but in this system,many procedure depend redhat rpms,for example: glibc-2.3.2-11.9.i386.rpm, perl-5.8.0-88.i386.rpm,etc.. At the start,I wanted to try install these rpm packages(from redhat) Once you have done

about using rpm command error in debian

2004-05-10 Thread li Rick
hi I am a debian new user.I had set up Debian env,I will use rpm on it,but when I run rpm -qa,the following error showed: --- # rpm -qa error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) # --- My Debian kernel is 2.4.18

Re: about using rpm command error in debian

2004-05-10 Thread David Cannings
On Monday 10 May 2004 10:01, li Rick wrote: I am a debian new user.I had set up Debian env,I will use rpm on it,but when I run rpm -qa,the following error showed: If you're a new user to Debian you might like to use apt instead of RPM. In my opinion it is a lot more flexible

Re: about using rpm command error in debian

2004-05-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 05:01:03PM +0800, li Rick wrote: I am a debian new user.I had set up Debian env,I will use rpm on it,but when I run rpm -qa,the following error showed: --- # rpm -qa error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2

Paquetes RPM.

2004-02-26 Thread Gustau Espinosa de los Monteros Miguel
Buenos días, Sigo haciendo preguntas - más que nada para no ... - estoy intentando instalar el JFFNMS ( Just For Fun Networks ) y uno de los requisitos es el Mysql-server, hasta aquí bien, me he conectado a la página de mysql.com y estoy bajandome el paquete MySQL-server-4.0.18-0.i386.rpm vuelvo

Re: Paquetes RPM.

2004-02-26 Thread Aurelio Díaz-Ufano
bajandome el paquete MySQL-server-4.0.18-0.i386.rpm vuelvo a decir que de Linux se muy poco así que quizás la pregunta será muy básica, creo que los paquetes .rpm son de Red Hat ¿no? como puedo compilar este paquete en un Debian. En Debian tenemos apt-get que es una maravilla. Como root pon apt-get

Re: Paquetes RPM.

2004-02-26 Thread Javier Payno
conectado a la página de mysql.com y estoy bajandome el paquete MySQL-server-4.0.18-0.i386.rpm vuelvo a decir que de Linux se muy poco así que quizás la pregunta será muy básica, creo que los paquetes .rpm son de Red Hat ¿no? como puedo compilar este paquete en un Debian. Este paquete no lo puedes

Re: Paquetes RPM.

2004-02-26 Thread Ricardo - Eureka!
conectado a la página de mysql.com y estoy bajandome el paquete MySQL-server-4.0.18-0.i386.rpm vuelvo a decir que de Linux se muy poco así que quizás la pregunta será muy básica, creo que los paquetes .rpm son de Red Hat ¿no? como puedo compilar este paquete en un Debian. Lo que te conviene hacer, es

Re: Alien from Red Hat rpm or Fedora Core rpm?

2004-02-18 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Adam Funk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040217 00:48]: On Monday 16 February 2004 21:30, Vineet Kumar wrote: (1) So it doesn't matter what distribution your rpm was targetted for; in most cases, it's not debian, and installing it on your debian system will most likely result in a system which

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