Re: Testing bullseye

2021-07-25 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 3:03 PM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 2:35 AM Gunnar Gervin wrote: > >> ..Learning Linux Debian is a nice hobby(feels more like a lifestyle) >> > > Linux always felt larger than merely another OS, whether Debian or other. > But I should add that

Re: Testing bullseye

2021-07-25 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 2:35 AM Gunnar Gervin wrote: > ..Learning Linux Debian is a nice hobby(feels more like a lifestyle) > Linux always felt larger than merely another OS, whether Debian or other. IMO that's because of the free-software movement's stated social goals and because of the broa

Testing bullseye

2021-07-25 Thread Gunnar Gervin
Thx for the request to help in this project even not knowing code. I'll firstly try it on my 14 yr old Debian Buster ex-macbook. Nice way to include more people &, probably, improve+stabilize the distro much faster. Learning Linux Debian is a nice hobby(feels more like a lifestyle) geg

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-17 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-02-17 04:53, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 16 feb 21, 16:45:13, Gary Dale wrote: I hear you, but the issue is that if I revert to a previous version, then I have to hold it to stop the buggy version from clobbering it every day. And I have to monitor the Testing version for changes to see

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-17 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-02-16 17:02, Philip Wyett wrote: On Tue, 2021-02-16 at 16:45 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: On 2021-02-13 03:02, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 12 feb 21, 17:00:41, Gary Dale wrote: Which is why I think it would be useful to have way to rollback a package when you can't fix it quickly. That way

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 16 feb 21, 16:45:13, Gary Dale wrote: > > I hear you, but the issue is that if I revert to a previous version, then I > have to hold it to stop the buggy version from clobbering it every day. And > I have to monitor the Testing version for changes to see when a fix is > potentially availabl

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-16 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-02-13 03:02, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 12 feb 21, 17:00:41, Gary Dale wrote: Which is why I think it would be useful to have way to rollback a package when you can't fix it quickly. That way you aren't asking all the users to do it themselves and track the bug status individually. Whe

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-16 Thread Philip Wyett
On Tue, 2021-02-16 at 16:45 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > On 2021-02-13 03:02, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 12 feb 21, 17:00:41, Gary Dale wrote: > > > Which is why I think it would be useful to have way to rollback a > > > package > > > when you can't fix it quickly. That way you aren't asking all

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-13 Thread Frank
Op 13-02-2021 om 14:56 schreef songbird: Frank wrote: Op 12-02-2021 om 22:18 schreef Gary Dale: ... I can do the same with Dolphin but I find it clumsy. FileZIlla is made to let you transfer files between local and remote directories. That's exactly what I do with caja, either from one tab t

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-13 Thread songbird
Frank wrote: > Op 12-02-2021 om 22:18 schreef Gary Dale: ... >> I can do the same with Dolphin but I find it clumsy. FileZIlla is made >> to let you transfer files between local and remote directories. >> > That's exactly what I do with caja, either from one tab to the other or > between separate w

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-13 Thread songbird
Andrei POPESCU wrote: ... > Debian doesn't support downgrading of packages. > > When dpkg installs another version of a package (typically newer) it=20 > basically overwrites the existing version and runs the corresponding=20 > package scripts from the to be installed version. > > A newer package m

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-13 Thread Frank
Op 12-02-2021 om 22:18 schreef Gary Dale: On 2021-02-12 14:12, Frank wrote: Op 12-02-2021 om 18:19 schreef Gary Dale: I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local server to update my web sites be

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 feb 21, 17:00:41, Gary Dale wrote: > > Which is why I think it would be useful to have way to rollback a package > when you can't fix it quickly. That way you aren't asking all the users to > do it themselves and track the bug status individually. When the maintainers > think they have a

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-02-12 16:10, songbird wrote: Gary Dale wrote: ... I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local server to update my web sites because I can't do it from Testing. I see it also impacts other

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-02-12 14:15, Paul Scott wrote: On 2/12/21 12:12 PM, Frank wrote: Op 12-02-2021 om 18:19 schreef Gary Dale: I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local server to update my web sites be

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-02-12 14:12, Frank wrote: Op 12-02-2021 om 18:19 schreef Gary Dale: I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local server to update my web sites because I can't do it from Testing. What fil

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-02-12 09:12, songbird wrote: Gary Dale wrote: ... Time passes and the bug is still in Debian/Testing. please look at the end of: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=980119 it looks like things are happening, but how quickly those changes are applied and uploa

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread songbird
Gary Dale wrote: ... > I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have > to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local > server to update my web sites because I can't do it from Testing. I see > it also impacts other programs that I (fortunately

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread Frank de Bruijn
Op 12-02-2021 om 20:15 schreef Paul Scott: On 2/12/21 12:12 PM, Frank wrote: Op 12-02-2021 om 18:19 schreef Gary Dale: I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local server to update my web sites b

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread songbird
Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > First of all, let's be clear: the bug (#980119) affects "FTP over TLS" > a.k.a. "FTPS" which is a hacked-up abomination of a protocol on top of > the worst protocol ever conceived. > > Anyone actually using this needs to take some time and seriously > re-evaluate their in

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread Paul Scott
On 2/12/21 12:12 PM, Frank wrote: Op 12-02-2021 om 18:19 schreef Gary Dale: I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local server to update my web sites because I can't do it from Testing. What f

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread Frank
Op 12-02-2021 om 18:19 schreef Gary Dale: I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local server to update my web sites because I can't do it from Testing. What file manager do you use? I stopped us

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 12:19:46PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > On 2021-02-12 09:12, songbird wrote: > >it looks like things are happening, but how quickly those > > changes are applied and uploads happen and are approved may > > take some time yet. > I appreciate the people doing this, but this

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread songbird
Gary Dale wrote: ... > Time passes and the bug is still in Debian/Testing. please look at the end of: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=980119 it looks like things are happening, but how quickly those changes are applied and uploads happen and are approved may take some

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-01-28 11:03, David Wright wrote: On Thu 28 Jan 2021 at 10:17:50 (-0500), Gary Dale wrote: On 2021-01-20 10:44, songbird wrote: Gary Dale wrote: ... the problem is still there with the recent version of Filezilla that showed up in testing (3.52.0.5-1). i see there is a bug filed

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-01-28 11:03, David Wright wrote: On Thu 28 Jan 2021 at 10:17:50 (-0500), Gary Dale wrote: On 2021-01-20 10:44, songbird wrote: Gary Dale wrote: ... the problem is still there with the recent version of Filezilla that showed up in testing (3.52.0.5-1). i see there is a bug fil

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-01-20 10:44, songbird wrote: Gary Dale wrote: ... the problem is still there with the recent version of Filezilla that showed up in testing (3.52.0.5-1). i see there is a bug filed via GNUTLS: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=980119 not sure what progres

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-28 Thread David Wright
On Thu 28 Jan 2021 at 10:17:50 (-0500), Gary Dale wrote: > On 2021-01-20 10:44, songbird wrote: > > Gary Dale wrote: > > ... > >the problem is still there with the recent version of Filezilla > > that showed up in testing (3.52.0.5-1). > > > >i see there is a bug filed via GNUTLS: > > > >

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-20 Thread songbird
Philip Wyett wrote: ... > As stated in other mails. This is why their is stable/production and we > should rely on those and not testing. ;-) yes, of course. :) why i keep a booting stable partition handy. songbird

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-20 Thread Philip Wyett
On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 10:44 -0500, songbird wrote: > Gary Dale wrote: > ... > > the problem is still there with the recent version of Filezilla > that showed up in testing (3.52.0.5-1). > > > i see there is a bug filed via GNUTLS: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=9801

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-20 Thread songbird
Gary Dale wrote: ... the problem is still there with the recent version of Filezilla that showed up in testing (3.52.0.5-1). i see there is a bug filed via GNUTLS: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=980119 not sure what progress is actually being made. songbird

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-13 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-01-13 15:59, Eike Lantzsch wrote: On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 17:33:12 -03 Gary Dale wrote: On 2021-01-13 14:54, Eike Lantzsch wrote: On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:42:17 -03 Gary Dale wrote: On 2021-01-12 22:53, Philip Wyett wrote: On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 21:27 -0500, Gary Dale wro

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-13 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-01-13 14:54, Eike Lantzsch wrote: On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:42:17 -03 Gary Dale wrote: On 2021-01-12 22:53, Philip Wyett wrote: On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 21:27 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Bullseye on an AMD64 machine. I'm trying to update a site using FileZilla with

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-13 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-01-12 22:53, Philip Wyett wrote: On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 21:27 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Bullseye on an AMD64 machine. I'm trying to update a site using FileZilla with the same settings I've been using but cannot get a connection. I've tried this on several sites with the

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-13 Thread songbird
Gary Dale wrote: ... thanks for the heads-up! :) i don't always need to use it, but today i finally updated some files and went to connect and no dice. good thing i have a stable booting partition i can get things done with if i have to. songbird

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-13 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 17:33:12 -03 Gary Dale wrote: > On 2021-01-13 14:54, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:42:17 -03 Gary Dale wrote: > >> On 2021-01-12 22:53, Philip Wyett wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 21:27 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Debian/B

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-13 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:42:17 -03 Gary Dale wrote: > On 2021-01-12 22:53, Philip Wyett wrote: > > On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 21:27 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > >> I'm running Debian/Bullseye on an AMD64 machine. > >> > >> I'm trying to update a site using FileZilla with the same settings > >> I've

FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-12 Thread Gary Dale
I'm running Debian/Bullseye on an AMD64 machine. I'm trying to update a site using FileZilla with the same settings I've been using but cannot get a connection. I've tried this on several sites with the same results. Here's the FileZilla dialogue of a session connect attempt: Status:    Reso

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-01-12 Thread Philip Wyett
On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 21:27 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Debian/Bullseye on an AMD64 machine. > > I'm trying to update a site using FileZilla with the same settings > I've > been using but cannot get a connection. I've tried this on several > sites > with the same results. Here's the Fi

Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

2020-03-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 30 mar 20, 12:47:45, Martin wrote: > On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 20:59, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > For my apt preferences I had: > > > > > > Package: * > > > Pin: release a=testing > > > Pin-Priority: 650 > > > > > > Package: * > > > Pin: release a=unstable > > > Pin-Priority: 600 > > > > >

Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

2020-03-30 Thread Martin
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 20:59, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > According to your 'apt policy' you also had repositories configured for > Skype and Docker. Did you remove those as well? They remain, just were in their own files. > > > For my apt preferences I had: > > > > Package: * > > Pin: release a=tes

Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

2020-03-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 29 mar 20, 16:40:03, Martin wrote: > On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 13:33, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > Pinned packages: > > > libpython3.8-minimal -> 3.8.2-1 with priority -3 > > > libcrypt1 -> 1:4.4.15-1 with priority -3 > > > libcrypt1:i386 -> 1:4.4.15-1 with priority -

Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

2020-03-29 Thread Martin
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 13:33, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > So you have a multiarch (amd64 and i386) system, with amd64 repositories > for Skype and Docker. > > Why do you need i386? I'm guessing you might have some locally installed > packages as well. Please show also the output of > > aptitude

Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

2020-03-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 29 mar 20, 12:37:39, Martin wrote: > > Here is apt policy: > > Package files: > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > release a=now > 500 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable/main amd64 Packages > release o=. stable,a=stable,n=stable,l=. stable,c=main,b=amd64 > origin repo.skype.com >

Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

2020-03-29 Thread Martin
I commented out the testing repository in my apt sources list and ran apt update/upgrade/clean/autoremove. It helped e.g. with updating firefox from 69 to 74 but other packages are still stuck. apt list --upgradable libc-bin/unstable 2.30-4 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.29-2] libc6/unstable 2.30-4 am

Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

2020-03-29 Thread Martin
Hello Andrei, thank you for your time! > With this sources list you appear to be running unstable, not testing. > Please show also the output of 'apt policy'. > sorry, yes I am usually happy to be on "unstable". Here is apt policy: Package files: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status release a=now 5

Re: Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

2020-03-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 28 mar 20, 23:59:17, Martin wrote: > > I have a debian bullseye/testing machine on a 2017 HP i7 machine that > I used daily for many months but was not running since end of November > 2019. I upgraded everything with apt update + dist-upgrade + > autoremove + clean this week. [...] > Thi

Unsolvable dependency problems around libc / libcrypt on debian testing/bullseye

2020-03-28 Thread Martin
Dear all, I have a debian bullseye/testing machine on a 2017 HP i7 machine that I used daily for many months but was not running since end of November 2019. I upgraded everything with apt update + dist-upgrade + autoremove + clean this week. I can't exactly say how but while everything appeared fi