Re: Re: Re: Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-23 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 11:41:12PM -0800, Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:27:21 -0600, you wrote: > > >> > >> Hmm, yes I can move those directories and replace them with links or > >> just mount them to appropriate dirs under /usr. Did not think of that. > >> But still, apt has thi

Re: Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-23 Thread Noah Sombrero
> >I don't understand your problem. Are you out of disc space, or did you >just mis-apportion your partitions? Either way the problem is not that >packagers set up their apps to reside in /usr. The problem is that you >need to re-partition or get another disc. Inflexibility in the face of limit

Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-23 Thread Gary Turner
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 13:32:00 -0800, Noah Sombrero wrote: >> >>I don't understand your problem. Are you out of disc space, or did you >>just mis-apportion your partitions? Either way the problem is not that >>packagers set up their apps to reside in /usr. The problem is that you >>need to re-par

Re: RE: Re: Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-23 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 03:13:49 -, you wrote: >hi, > >couldn't you copy over /usr to a new drive and then mount the new drive to >/usr ??? > >Chris I think that is the best suggestion that I have received. In fact, I probably will do that. But, my gut feeling is that computers should serve us

Re: Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-23 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:35:01 -0600, you wrote: >From personal experience, installing things in /opt/foo and using >stow to link them to /usr/local sucks in many interesting ways (at >least on Solaris). > >So don't think FHS mandates that because FHS is stupid. > I can manually install packages

Re: Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-22 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:29:59 -0600, you wrote: >Apt installs there because that's where the FHS >(http://www.pathname.com/fhs/) says things should go. Was not disputing that there might be authority behind how it is done. >Rather than making it difficult to use extra hard drives, this easily >a

Re: Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-22 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 10:34:31AM -0800, Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:09:07 +1100, Gleason wrote: > > > >If I was you, I would concentrate on ease of upgrade (as mentioned before by > >someone, apt-get), > > Apt-get is a great tool, however it insists on installing everything

Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-22 Thread Rich Puhek
Noah Sombrero wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:09:07 +1100, you wrote: > > >If I was you, I would concentrate on ease of upgrade (as mentioned before by > >someone, apt-get), > > Apt-get is a great tool, however it insists on installing everything in /usr. > Which means that it is > difficu

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Re: Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-22 Thread Niall Brady
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 10:34:31AM -0800, Noah Sombrero wrote: > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:09:07 +1100, you wrote: > > Apt-get is a great tool, however it insists on installing everything in /usr. > Which means that it is > difficult to make use of extra hard drives. ??? could you elaborate? --

Re: Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-22 Thread Noah Sombrero
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:09:07 +1100, you wrote: >If I was you, I would concentrate on ease of upgrade (as mentioned before by >someone, apt-get), Apt-get is a great tool, however it insists on installing everything in /usr. Which means that it is difficult to make use of extra hard drives. G

Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-22 Thread Davor Balder
Hi Michael! I'm not sure whether there is much on the net regarding Debian vs. Suse or RedHat or Mandrake(the list goes on...)... If I was you, I would concentrate on ease of upgrade (as mentioned before by someone, apt-get), Debian policy (things are where they should be, Debian Manifesto (wh

Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-19 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Gustavo Noronha Silva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:33:10 -0600 > Dimitri Maziuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > Why do you want to advocate running a beta OS on production systems? > > You want your sysadmin to hate you? > what beta OS did he mention? I'll repeat

Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-19 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:33:10 -0600 Dimitri Maziuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Michael Marziani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > > I recently started with a new company and they are using lots of Linux > > systems, mostly RedHat and SuSE. We are in the middle of upgrading a > > bunch of the

RE: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-19 Thread Michael Marziani
-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: High powered Debian advocacy? * Michael Marziani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > I recently started with a new company and they are using lots of Linux > systems, mostly RedHat and SuSE. We are in the middle of upgrading a > bunch of the machi

Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-19 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Michael Marziani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > I recently started with a new company and they are using lots of Linux > systems, mostly RedHat and SuSE. We are in the middle of upgrading a > bunch of the machines and I very much want to figure out a way to > present Debian to them as an op

Re: High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-18 Thread timothy bauscher
>I know what sets Debian apart and why RPM > is > ineffective etc, etc. But, I am interested in finding industry > sources > and/or extremely technical/powerful write-ups on what sets Debian > apart, > and the inadequacies of the other distros. Linux Magazine ( http://www.linux-mag.com/ ) wrote a

High powered Debian advocacy?

2002-03-18 Thread Michael Marziani
I recently started with a new company and they are using lots of Linux systems, mostly RedHat and SuSE. We are in the middle of upgrading a bunch of the machines and I very much want to figure out a way to present Debian to them as an option. From having used many Linux distributions extensively,

Re: Help on Debian advocacy

2000-05-10 Thread Colin Watson
Van Buggenhaut Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [I've reformatted your message with proper quoting to make it more readable.] >N. Raghavendra wrote: >>2) Are Potato CD's available in the market? If so what version of the >>Linux kernel do they ship with? > >Since potato isn't "stable" yet, no CD's

RE: Help on Debian advocacy

2000-05-10 Thread Van Buggenhaut Eric
-Message d'origine- De: N. Raghavendra [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: mercredi 10 mai 2000 9:23 A: debian-user@lists.debian.org Objet: Help on Debian advocacy Hello everybody, I work in a place where there is a network of about 60 pcs mostly running Slackware Linux. A

Re: Help on Debian advocacy

2000-05-10 Thread Roso Giuseppe \(Beppe\)
If you have a net with similar PCs it should be easy install Debian (or another Linux distribution). I know it is possible to install and configure the system on a PC and copy all it on other PCs. For kernels you can do the same thing (if you have similar PCs). About potato, if your net is connec

Help on Debian advocacy

2000-05-10 Thread N. Raghavendra
ution? I am quite satisfied with the 1500 or so packages in Hamm main, but the establishment guys here say that they want a distro with as many packages as possible. 5) Are there any Debian advocacy pages on the web, which I can use to convince people here? Sorry for the long message and than

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