On Lu, 25 ian 21, 15:29:11, John Kaufmann wrote:
> On 2021-01-25 14:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Lu, 25 ian 21, 11:11:44, John Kaufmann wrote:
> > > On 2021-01-25 08:11, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
> > > > > > In the last seven
On 2021-01-25 at 08:57, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:16:38AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
>> nb.net no longer run their own MTA (maybe for just this reason?),
>> farming it out to userservices.net. As a result they increasingly
>> unresponsive to complaints. I
On 2021-01-25 14:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 25 ian 21, 11:11:44, John Kaufmann wrote:
On 2021-01-25 08:11, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
* debian-user
1 bounce
On 2021-01-25 14:57, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 11:39:14AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
On 2021-01-25 08:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
...
Look, I don't fear spam as much as provider's greed. ... IMO the best
anti-spam measures are a good MUA and a knowledgeable user.
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 11:39:14AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
> On 2021-01-25 08:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >...
> >Sometimes I get the impression that some economic actors hate mail
> >because it can't be fenced-off as easily as the "social" silos and
> >are doing their best to kill it.
> >
>
On Lu, 25 ian 21, 11:11:44, John Kaufmann wrote:
> On 2021-01-25 08:11, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
> > > > In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
> > > > * debian-user
> > > > 1 bounce out of mails in
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021, Andy Smith wrote:
to point them at fastmail.com.
I've no association with fastmail.com, I just find them pleasant to
deal with when helping people.
an other solution is "getmail", available as a debian package,
and also, I suppose,
On 2021-01-25 08:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
...
Sometimes I get the impression that some economic actors hate mail
because it can't be fenced-off as easily as the "social" silos and
are doing their best to kill it.
A pity that pgp/gpg hasn't caught on better.
That comment led me to wonder
On 2021-01-25 07:56 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
A pity that pgp/gpg hasn't caught on better.
fud - fear uncertainty and doubt
if you use encryption you'll attract the attention of the man
On 2021-01-25 08:11, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
* debian-user
1 bounce out of mails in one day (%, kick-score is 80%)
First: How common is this occurrence for
On 2021-01-25 02:36, Andy Smith wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
... The best practice when dealing with a piece of mail that has been
identified as so spammy that you don't want to receive it is not to
file it away in a spam folder, but to reject it at SMTP
On Monday 25 January 2021 08:56:04 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:29:54AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:17:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > Are those modifications added by the Debian mailing list? That'd
> > > be strange, because I
On Monday 25 January 2021 08:29:54 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:17:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > Are those modifications added by the Debian mailing list? That'd be
> > strange, because I don't see them...
>
> No. They're done on the receiving end. I'm just
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:56:04PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Sometimes I get the impression that some economic actors hate mail
> because it can't be fenced-off as easily as the "social" silos and
> are doing their best to kill it.
That may be true, but it's not the reasoning behind the
Hi John,
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:16:38AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
> nb.net no longer run their own MTA (maybe for just this reason?),
> farming it out to userservices.net. As a result they increasingly
> unresponsive to complaints. I have not figured out my next step.
As mentioned, I do
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:29:54AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:17:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > Are those modifications added by the Debian mailing list? That'd be
> > strange, because I don't see them...
>
> No. They're done on the receiving end. I'm just
On 2021-01-25 04:24, Joe wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 08:55:53 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote:
...
Is there an intelligent way to manage when spam control efforts
break the system they want to protect? Do the debian lists attempt
to control spam by
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:17:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Are those modifications added by the Debian mailing list? That'd be
> strange, because I don't see them...
No. They're done on the receiving end. I'm just letting you know that
there's some horrible shit out here in the real
On 2021-01-25 04:05, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:55:53AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote:
[...] and can never get my ISP to care about this.
We can at least pester them about it. If enough of us do, eventually
they will
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:11:51AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
> > > In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
> > > * debian-user
> > > 1 bounce out of mails in one day (%, kick-score is 80%)
> >
> >
On 2021-01-25 01:55, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote:
...
... the background info links ... explain the origin
of the problem in spam control, and why bouncing list mail is not
nice, and what can and should be done about spam. I'm sympathetic to
the
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
> > In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
> > * debian-user
> > 1 bounce out of mails in one day (%, kick-score is 80%)
>
> First: How common is this occurrence for others?
It is common enough that it
On 01/25/2021 12:03 AM, John Kaufmann wrote:
On 2021-01-23 14:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian
users,and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics.
...
There is a comprehensive FAQ on the Debian Wiki which is in need of
updating.
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 08:55:53 +0200
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote:
> > > In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
> > > * debian-user
> > > 1 bounce out of mails in one day (%, kick-score
> > > is 80%)
> >
> > First: How
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:55:53AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote:
> > [...]and can never get my
> > ISP to care about this.
>
> We can at least pester them about it. If enough of us do, eventually
> they will have no choice
Hi John,
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote:
> Your post provides a hook to ask about a question that arises sporadically:
> Probably less than one a month I receive from Debian Listmaster Team
> a message "lists.debian.org has received
> bounces from you".
On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote:
> On 2021-01-23 14:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian
> > users,and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics.
> > ...
> > There is a comprehensive FAQ on the Debian Wiki which is in
On 2021-01-23 14:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,and to
facilitate discussion on relevant topics.
...
There is a comprehensive FAQ on the Debian Wiki which is in need of updating.
https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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