Re: Matrox G550 mga driver hangs system

2017-03-29 Thread Tony Stoneley
Felix Miata suggested https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00895.html Thanks, Felix, but I had already seen that and tried it, to no great effect. I should have said so. Except that I see the log I filed doesn't say so. Here is (part of) one that does, and fails similarly- [

Re: Matrox G550 + mga driver hangs system

2017-03-29 Thread Felix Miata
Tony Stoneley composed on 2017-03-29 14:36 (UTC+0100): I'm trying an experimental upgrade from stable to testing on an elderly system with a Matrox Millenium G550 graphics adaptor plugged directly into the motherboard, using the mga driver, and have run into a brick wall with the xserver. When

Re: Matrox G550 + mga driver hangs system

2017-03-29 Thread tomas
g the mga driver, and have run into > a brick wall with the xserver. When started, eg with startx, the > system immediately freezes and the only escape seems to be reboot. In > particular ctrl-alt-Fn has no effect in this state, which makes > diagnosis tricky. Any help or suggestions would b

Matrox G550 + mga driver hangs system

2017-03-29 Thread Tony Stoneley
I'm trying an experimental upgrade from stable to testing on an elderly system with a Matrox Millenium G550 graphics adaptor plugged directly into the motherboard, using the mga driver, and have run into a brick wall with the xserver. When started, eg with startx, the system immediately freezes

Re: Inconveniente con driver Radeon Debian Testing

2017-01-27 Thread AlexLikeRock
intenta descagargarlos desde la pagina AMD.COM Radeon HD SERIES Mobility Radeon HD 3xxx series LA VERDAD no es recomendable isntalarlos los de amd.com , por que es muy problemáticos quitarlos / removerlos. pero si no tienes mas opción otros consejo es que instales otros kernel

Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

2017-01-24 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 01/23/2017 11:54 PM, David Baron wrote: On יום שני, 23 בינואר 2017 21:14:58 IST Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 01/14/2017 02:26 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: I'm happy to report linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver are currently working swell together. I just updated, rebooted

Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

2017-01-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson
ng enabled and I'm good with that, tested on Stretch too, now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian! linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 is behaving like image-4.8 used to behave nouveau froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Debian's nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver is freezing with pl

Inconveniente con driver Radeon Debian Testing

2017-01-22 Thread Edwin De La Cruz
sucedia lo mismo. Despues de varios dias googleando encontre por ahi que decia que posiblemente era el problema con los drivers de video. Revise los driver de mi tarjeta y estaba con Radeon (gflrx), lo purgue, me quede sin las X, despues de purgar y reinstalar las X finalmente inicie sesion

Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

2017-01-15 Thread David Baron
required for your configuration, try disabling it, or removing it > entirely. > > The Nvidia has to use "ro nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0" and is working > > swell with the 4.8.0-2 kernel but dies with the 4.9 kernel. > > It seems as though you are equating the FOSS X

Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

2017-01-15 Thread Felix Miata
th the 4.8.0-2 kernel but dies with the 4.9 kernel. It seems as though you are equating the FOSS Xorg driver named modesetting with kernel modesetting (KMS). They are not the same thing. The proprietary NVidia Xorg driver, unless something has changed lately that I'm unaware of, requires that KM

Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

2017-01-15 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 01/15/2017 10:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-15 10:24 (UTC-0800): This is Nvidia GeForce7025 using nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver using the 4.8.0-2 kernel because it's the only thing I've found to work. I'm also using an Intel desktop with ATI Radeon 9550

Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

2017-01-15 Thread Felix Miata
Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-15 10:24 (UTC-0800): This is Nvidia GeForce7025 using nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver using the 4.8.0-2 kernel because it's the only thing I've found to work. I'm also using an Intel desktop with ATI Radeon 9550 graphics and an Intel Laptop with Intel 965

Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

2017-01-15 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 01/14/2017 09:51 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-14 20:37 (UTC-0800): Is something missing in the kernel, maybe a module? Which gfxchip do you have? This is Nvidia GeForce7025 using nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver using the 4.8.0-2 kernel because it's the only thing

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card? [SOLVED]

2017-01-15 Thread M.A. Perry
Thank you. M.A.P. -- On 01/15/2017 10:28 AM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, at 09:16, M.A. Perry wrote: 3. From 1. and 2. I have concluded that the non-free "programming" added to the interface hardware is non-volatile (i.e. persistent); which raises the

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card? [SOLVED]

2017-01-15 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, at 09:16, M.A. Perry wrote: > 3. From 1. and 2. I have concluded that the non-free > "programming" added to the interface hardware > is non-volatile (i.e. persistent); which raises the > question how does one de-install the non-free > firmware should

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card? [SOLVED]

2017-01-15 Thread M.A. Perry
People, My thanks to all of you for the useful reactions to my question. I will try to summarise what was said. 1. The ethernet internet card (in my case a chip set on the motherboard) requires "firmware" and not software. [In fact when I wrote "software" in my initial

Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

2017-01-14 Thread Felix Miata
Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-14 20:37 (UTC-0800): Is something missing in the kernel, maybe a module? Which gfxchip do you have? Did you miss that the _preferred_ FOSS video driver in Sid, modesetting, is integrated into the xerver and you haven't tried it? It might be your solution

Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

2017-01-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
ng enabled and I'm good with that, tested on Stretch too, now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian! linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 is behaving like image-4.8 used to behave nouveau froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Debian's nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver is freezing with pl

linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

2017-01-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
on Stretch too, now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian! linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 is behaving like image-4.8 used to behave nouveau froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Debian's nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver is freezing with plasma start. On first boot plasma load

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card?

2017-01-14 Thread Brian
On Sat 14 Jan 2017 at 17:27:27 +, Curt wrote: > On 2017-01-14, wrote: > > > > Suffice it to say, I prefer to not add non-free to non-free (of > > course I'd prefer the whole firmware in the device to be free: > > getting there slowly). > > Well, then,

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card?

2017-01-14 Thread Curt
On 2017-01-14, wrote: > > Suffice it to say, I prefer to not add non-free to non-free (of > course I'd prefer the whole firmware in the device to be free: > getting there slowly). Well, then, you're a little bit pregnant. > It is a complicated field, and

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card?

2017-01-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 11:38:19AM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 14/01/2017 à 11:23, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > > >Now there's already some firmware on that card (ROM, flash, > >whatever persistent storage). But those things are set up > >to

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card?

2017-01-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 14/01/2017 à 11:43, Michael Milliman a écrit : While I do not have a RealTek ethernet nic, the wireless interface on my laptop is RealTek and it has a similar situation, though without the firmware, the wireless interface will not run at all. The required firmware for my interface is

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card?

2017-01-14 Thread Michael Milliman
g | tail" shows much the same in more detail. Nevertheless, the wired ethernet connection to internet seems to work fine.(...) The above suggests that other software takes over the function of the missing Non-Free RealTek driver. No. 1) The missing file is a firmware, not a driver. 2) No other

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card?

2017-01-14 Thread Michael Milliman
etail. Nevertheless, the wired ethernet connection to internet seems to work fine.(...) The above suggests that other software takes over the function of the missing Non-Free RealTek driver. No. 1) The missing file is a firmware, not a driver. 2) No other software takes over the function of a missing fir

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card?

2017-01-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 14/01/2017 à 11:23, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : Now there's already some firmware on that card (ROM, flash, whatever persistent storage). But those things are set up to receive more firmware from the operating system on the "main" computer. (...) (My WiFi hardware also would like to get

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card?

2017-01-14 Thread tomas
rk fine. There is no wireless interface on the > Asus P8B75-MLE motherboard as far as I know. > > The above suggests that other software takes over the > function of the missing Non-Free RealTek driver. To complement the other (correct) answers given here: the "firmware" is some

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card?

2017-01-14 Thread Вадим Колчев
t;> The above suggests that other software takes over the >> function of the missing Non-Free RealTek driver. >> > > No. > 1) The missing file is a firmware, not a driver. > 2) No other software takes over the function of a missing firmware. The > function just won't be used. Some firmware functions are optional, such as > offload optimizations. > >

Re: Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card?

2017-01-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
ternet seems to work fine.(...) The above suggests that other software takes over the function of the missing Non-Free RealTek driver. No. 1) The missing file is a firmware, not a driver. 2) No other software takes over the function of a missing firmware. The function just won't be used. Som

Which driver for RealTek RTL8168 ethernet interface card?

2017-01-14 Thread M.A. Perry
the missing Non-Free RealTek driver. Thus my question: What should I do? either: a) Leave things as they are ('If it ain't broke don't fix it') or : b) install the Debian non-free package "firmware-realtek (0.43) Can someone with experience of this software please advise?? Thanks in advance. Cheers

Re: Driver openchrome VIA em Debian Jessie não funciona

2017-01-03 Thread Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro
2016-12-16 8:59 GMT-02:00 João Rodrigo Moreira : > Se instalo Debian Jessie 8.*, o vídeo não funciona de jeito nenhum. Por favor envie o conteúdo de /var/log/Xorg.[0-9].log no corpo duma resposta aa lista: nao apenas para mim, nem como arquivo anexo. O número

Driver openchrome VIA em Debian Jessie não funciona

2016-12-16 Thread João Rodrigo Moreira
Possuo um PC com driver gráfico VIA. Se instalo Debian Wheezy 7.*, vídeo funciona automaticamente. Se instalo Debian Jessie 8.*, o vídeo não funciona de jeito nenhum. A versão do driver pra Wheezy é 0.2.906-2+deb7u1. A versão do driver pra Jessie é 0.3.3-1. Já reinstalei o xserver, reinstalei o

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-07 Thread Doug
HP MFP. But all of the new HP MFP and scanners seem to make use of a "driver plugin". If I'm understanding correctly, a user has to run the hp-setup program that comes with hplip. That program actually downloads this proprietary blob during installation of the printer. This is not at all wha

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-07 Thread Jape Person
On 12/07/2016 02:52 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 07/12/16 14:42, Jape Person wrote: I'll never forget hearing someone trying to prop an early version of Netscape up by saying that it was a good browser *because* it failed on badly written pages. It shouldn't crash, of course, but I think the

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-06 Thread Richard Hector
On 07/12/16 14:42, Jape Person wrote: > I'll never forget hearing someone trying to prop an early version of > Netscape up by saying that it was a good browser *because* it failed on > badly written pages. It shouldn't crash, of course, but I think the web would be a much nicer place if browsers

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-06 Thread Jape Person
On 12/06/2016 06:50 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 06 December 2016 02:51:33 Jape Person wrote: Yes, I know I can tell some browsers to give me light text on a dark background, but that never works as well as the control I have in my mail client. Out of interest, which do you use? I need a

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-06 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 06 December 2016 02:51:33 Jape Person wrote: > Yes, I know I can tell some browsers to give me light text on a dark > background, but that never works as well as the control I have in my > mail client. Out of interest, which do you use? I need a backup, for when the bit-rot on the

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 12/05/2016 07:06 PM, Jape Person wrote: On 12/05/2016 06:35 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 12/03/2016 12:36 PM, Jape Person wrote: On 12/03/2016 03:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Jape Person
On 12/05/2016 06:35 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 12/03/2016 12:36 PM, Jape Person wrote: On 12/03/2016 03:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Jape Person
instead of laser. It think it's curious that you can get a single function Color LaserJet from HP that doesn't require the driver plugin. You can get an OfficePro MFP which doesn't require the driver plugin. But you can't get a single function scanner which doesn't require the driver plugin. I

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Jape Person
On 12/04/2016 09:55 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, December 04, 2016 06:50:17 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 20:14:21 Jape Person wrote: I have a horrible time reading this stuff through a browser interface. Yes, sorry. :-( I have a horrible time with archives

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 12/03/2016 12:36 PM, Jape Person wrote: On 12/03/2016 03:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of the corner of my eye

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-04 Thread Brian
just have to go with an MFP that uses inkjet > instead of laser. It think it's curious that you can get a single function > Color LaserJet from HP that doesn't require the driver plugin. You can get > an OfficePro MFP which doesn't require the driver plugin. But you can't get > a singl

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 04 December 2016 14:55:10 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, December 04, 2016 06:50:17 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 03 December 2016 20:14:21 Jape Person wrote: > > > I > > > have a horrible time reading this stuff through a browser interface. > > > > Yes, sorry. :-( I have

Re: nvidia-driver in Sid

2016-12-04 Thread Sven Hartge
Ramon Hofer wrote: > Is there anything I can do to rsolve the dependencies? You need to use the nvidia-drivers from Experimental for the time beeing. S° -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

nvidia-driver in Sid

2016-12-04 Thread Ramon Hofer
Hi all I am using sid and after dist-upgrading today I can not start X anymore: # apt-get update Hit:1 http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian sid InRelease Reading package lists... Done xbmc@hoferr-htpc:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-04 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, December 04, 2016 06:50:17 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 03 December 2016 20:14:21 Jape Person wrote: > > I > > have a horrible time reading this stuff through a browser interface. > > Yes, sorry. :-( I have a horrible time with archives being illegible in > browsers - but I

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 03 December 2016 20:14:21 Jape Person wrote: > I > have a horrible time reading this stuff through a browser interface. Yes, sorry. :-( I have a horrible time with archives being illegible in browsers - but I thought that that was a problem restricted to the partially sighted: the

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Jape Person
On 12/03/2016 07:32 PM, Fred wrote: On 12/03/2016 01:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of the corner of my eye -- that

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Fred
On 12/03/2016 01:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of the corner of my eye -- that there were two recent additions to

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Jape Person
On 12/03/2016 03:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of the corner of my eye -- that there were two recent additions to

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of > > the corner of my eye -- that there were two recent additions to the thread. > > > >

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Jape Person
On 12/03/2016 02:20 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of the corner of my eye -- that there were two recent additions to the thread. Unfortunately, a) I use POP3 and download

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: > Hi, > > I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of > the corner of my eye -- that there were two recent additions to the thread. > > Unfortunately, a) I use POP3 and download all my mail immediately from > the

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Brian
> > know that -- if I change my mind about using a propr

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Jape Person
Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of the corner of my eye -- that there were two recent additions to the thread. Unfortunately, a) I use POP3 and download all my mail immediately from the server, b) my neighbor's Maine Coon cat, Mr. Potay-Toes, just

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Brian
disclose and/or distribute the source code of the Software. Frying pan >>> Fire > be. The thing even does direct scanning to and printing from Android > devices, so my wife's evil tablet can grab us a scan, if need be. And I do > know that -- if I change my mind about using a pro

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-02 Thread Marc Shapiro
-inkjet-printers-unofficial-cartridges-software-update http://fossforce.com/2016/09/hp-retrofits-ink-cartridge-drm-printers/ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160920/07021035568/hp-launched-delayed-drm-time-bomb-to-disable-competing-printer-cartridges.shtml This stuff in addition to the driver

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-02 Thread Jape Person
://fossforce.com/2016/09/hp-retrofits-ink-cartridge-drm-printers/ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160920/07021035568/hp-launched-delayed-drm-time-bomb-to-disable-competing-printer-cartridges.shtml This stuff in addition to the driver plugin decision makes me think that policy wrt HP's attitude

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-02 Thread Jape Person
I know has a use for it, so it's going to be a donation. I was going to make life easy for myself and use hplip with something like an HP MFP. But all of the new HP MFP and scanners seem to make use of a "driver plugin". If I'm understanding correctly, a user has to run the hp-setup pro

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-02 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, December 03, 2016 12:19:09 AM Doug wrote: > On 11/30/2016 09:57 AM, do...@mail.com wrote: > > Beware of HP inkjets, HP recently had to change the code so that people > > could install ink cartridges that were not HP's and no, refilling the old > > ones did not work. So everyone had to

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-02 Thread Doug
HP MFP. But all of the new HP MFP and scanners seem to make use of a "driver plugin". If I'm understanding correctly, a user has to run the hp-setup program that comes with hplip. That program actually downloads this proprietary blob during installation of the printer. This is not at all wha

hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-02 Thread doark
an HP MFP. But all of the new HP MFP and scanners seem to make use > of a "driver plugin". If I'm understanding correctly, a user has to run > the hp-setup program that comes with hplip. That program actually > downloads this proprietary blob during installation of the printer.

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-24 Thread Brian
it this way: > > > > > >Are we talking about printer firmware, or host-cpu device drivers? > > > > > >All of your reply is only relevant for device firmware (runs in the > > >device). But I thought this was about a binary-only driver blob that > > >

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-24 Thread Brian
On Wed 23 Nov 2016 at 12:59:05 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 12:21:21AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > On 21/11/16 08:52, Brian wrote: > > > Considering HP say they do not offer Linux support directly, you are > > > doing well. > > > > Comments like this (those from

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 23 November 2016 06:59:05 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 12:21:21AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > On 21/11/16 08:52, Brian wrote: > > > Considering HP say they do not offer Linux support directly, you > > > are doing well. > > > > Comments like this (those from

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-23 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 12:21:21AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > On 21/11/16 08:52, Brian wrote: > > Considering HP say they do not offer Linux support directly, you are > > doing well. > > Comments like this (those from HP and other vendors, not

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-23 Thread Richard Hector
On 21/11/16 08:52, Brian wrote: > Considering HP say they do not offer Linux support directly, you are > doing well. Comments like this (those from HP and other vendors, not this one from Brian) bug me. I don't want HP to support Linux; I want printers to use open, published (by them or anyone

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 19 November 2016 18:02:24 Jape Person wrote: > For my "new" printer, maybe I should just find a > way to put that old LaserJet directly on the network. Install CUPS, client and server, on all the machines on your network, attach the printer to one of the machines (a dedicated printer

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-20 Thread James P. Wallen
re devices, including new inkjet MFPs, with the driver-plugin model. The plugin contains *.fw files and libraries. A firmware file is uploaded to the printer when it is switched on. Quite what the libraries do I do not know but my assumption is they are involved in this and the host-based

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-20 Thread Jape Person
as the MFP inkjets are not (for now). Yes, I believe I saw statements on the hp site indicating that they intend to start supporting more and more devices, including new inkjet MFPs, with the driver-plugin model. The plugin contains *.fw files and libraries. A firmware file is uploaded to the pr

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-20 Thread Brian
hat I will > enlighten you in such a matter is vanishingly small. Others are reading this thread too. :) > I didn't find any information this specific about the driver plugin. If you > can steer me toward the relevant information I would appreciate it. I read > information at all the links

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
in the device). But I thought this was about a binary-only driver blob that runs in the host OS ? Or did I misunderstand? I'm pretty sure it's a host-cpu device driver. http://hplipopensource.com/node/309 Sorry to be awkward, but what does "it's" refer to? Uh, I'm the awkward one here.

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
, meaning you need no drivers on the machine you are printing from. But it is an inkjet. Yes, thanks. I suppose I'll just have to go with an MFP that uses inkjet instead of laser. It think it's curious that you can get a single function Color LaserJet from HP that doesn't require the driver plugin

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Brian
rivers? > > > >All of your reply is only relevant for device firmware (runs in the > >device). But I thought this was about a binary-only driver blob that > >runs in the host OS ? Or did I misunderstand? > > > I'm pretty sure it's a host-cpu device driver. > > http:/

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 13:16:57 -0500, Jape Person wrote: > On 11/19/2016 10:55 AM, Brian wrote: > > > >Why is it important for the printer to be blobless? Look at it this way: > > > >A printer is choc-a-bloc full of firmware. None of this firmware is > >accessible to a user, even if something

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
is it important for the printer to be blobless? Look at it this way: Are we talking about printer firmware, or host-cpu device drivers? All of your reply is only relevant for device firmware (runs in the device). But I thought this was about a binary-only driver blob that runs in the host OS

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
On 11/19/2016 10:55 AM, Brian wrote: It was sub-thread of another thread. Starts here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/10/msg01016.html Thanks. I think I get the idea, but I'll read that to see if I can get myself educated a little better. Why is it important for the printer

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
Ugh! I'm not sure I want to find out! Maybe I don't need a printer. Heh. Basically, if an HP printer is not a high-end model that has a software-driver-less network port that can take PDF/1A directly using the IPP protocol natively, I wouldn't recommend it. If it does, I'd still recommend th

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
in the list. Yes, thank you. That's the information that had me asking the questions. Almost all of the devices which do what I want them to do either a) require the driver plugin or b) are nearing end of support. hplip is all free software. The plugin is not in Debian so the stuation

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 18:04:17 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 03:55:52PM +, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > Why is it important for the printer to be blobless? Look at it this way: > > Horses for courses :-) > > If the printer wants to be bought by me, being

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Brian
ur reply is only relevant for device firmware (runs in the > device). But I thought this was about a binary-only driver blob that > runs in the host OS ? Or did I misunderstand? Knowing the printer model would bring some focus to the matter. We are both right but each of us has looked at two different aspects of the plugin model. -- Brian.

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 03:55:52PM +, Brian wrote: [...] > Why is it important for the printer to be blobless? Look at it this way: Horses for courses :-) If the printer wants to be bought by me, being blobless would greatly improve its

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
e printer to be blobless? Look at it this way: Are we talking about printer firmware, or host-cpu device drivers? All of your reply is only relevant for device firmware (runs in the device). But I thought this was about a binary-only driver blob that runs in the host OS ? Or did I misunderstand? -- Henrique Holschuh

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Brian
from a decade ago. You might want to inform yourself better about > their recent attempts at ink cartridge lockdown, for example. > > Basically, if an HP printer is not a high-end model that has a > software-driver-less network port that can take PDF/1A directly using > the IPP proto

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
wadays very different from the one you might know from a decade ago. You might want to inform yourself better about their recent attempts at ink cartridge lockdown, for example. Basically, if an HP printer is not a high-end model that has a software-driver-less network port that can take PDF/

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Brian
for everything on the libreboot PCs. But I've run > into a snag with the printer and scanner. > > I was going to make life easy for myself and use hplip with something like > an HP MFP. But all of the new HP MFP and scanners seem to make use of a > "driver plugin". If

hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-18 Thread Jape Person
with the printer and scanner. I was going to make life easy for myself and use hplip with something like an HP MFP. But all of the new HP MFP and scanners seem to make use of a "driver plugin". If I'm understanding correctly, a user has to run the hp-setup program that comes with hplip. Th

Re: Driver wifi suite

2016-09-29 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
le fichier > /etc/apt/sources.list : > > deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie main > > pour que ça ressemble à ça: > > deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free Si le driver ne fonctionne toujours pas, tenter d’installer le paquet provenant des

Re: Driver wifi suite

2016-09-29 Thread MALGORNdg
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 21:01:11 +0200 steve wrote: > Je complète avant que la question soit posée… > > Si la commande te dit que le paquet n'est pas trouvé, c'est parce que > le bon dépôt (« non-free ») ne se trouve pas dans ton fichier > sources.list. > > Pour corriger cela: >

Re: Difficultés pour installer le driver wifi

2016-09-28 Thread Christophe Moille
Le Wednesday 28 Sep 2016 à 18:22:44 (+), Didier Moerenhout a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > Si qqn peut me dire ou me donner un lien qui puisse m'aider à installer le > driver wifi : Iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode > Sur Thinkpad X61s. Tout s'est bien installé sauf ce driver. > > Di

Re: Driver wifi suite

2016-09-28 Thread steve
Je complète avant que la question soit posée… Si la commande te dit que le paquet n'est pas trouvé, c'est parce que le bon dépôt (« non-free ») ne se trouve pas dans ton fichier sources.list. Pour corriger cela: 1)ajoute (en root) non-free à la ligne qui ressemble à ça dans le fichier

Re: Driver wifi suite

2016-09-28 Thread steve
Salut, En root, tape la commande suivante: apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi S

Driver wifi suite

2016-09-28 Thread Didier Moerenhout
J'ai oublié de dire que j'ai installé la dernière version stable jessie 8.6 et que j'aimerais bien savoir installer correctement des logiciels. Merci. Envoyé à partir de mon Windows Phone

Difficultés pour installer le driver wifi

2016-09-28 Thread Didier Moerenhout
Bonjour, Si qqn peut me dire ou me donner un lien qui puisse m'aider à installer le driver wifi : Iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode Sur Thinkpad X61s. Tout s'est bien installé sauf ce driver. Difficile pour un débutant. Merci. Envoyé à partir de mon Windows Phone

Black Screen on Dell Inspiron 14R 5437 after hibernation with Bumblebee driver installed.

2016-09-27 Thread Éderson Almeida de Jesus
Hi guys, I need to fix an issue that I have on my Debian Jessie 8.6 installation. I'm using a nVidia Optimus card and I already installed Bumblebee as per Debian Wiki[1] and Bumbleblee Project. [1] - https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee [2] -

Re: driver para Laserjet Pro M201dw

2016-09-15 Thread limpia
On 2016-09-15 09:27, l...@ida.cu wrote: Hola a todos Donde puedo descargar el driver de la impresora Laserjet Pro M201dw para Debian 7 ?? Gracias a todos Saludos, Si es HP ? https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/hplip Es mejor usar eso, que bajar lo de otro sitios, -- ¿Cómo no romper

Re: driver para Laserjet Pro M201dw

2016-09-15 Thread David Rotger
El 15 sept. 2016 16:25, <l...@ida.cu> escribió: > > Hola a todos > > Donde puedo descargar el driver de la impresora Laserjet Pro M201dw para > Debian 7 ?? > > Gracias a todos > > > Mira aqui: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/tech_docs/man_pages/toolbox.html

driver para Laserjet Pro M201dw

2016-09-15 Thread luis
Hola a todos Donde puedo descargar el driver de la impresora Laserjet Pro M201dw para Debian 7 ?? Gracias a todos

Re: Can't install new driver

2016-08-21 Thread deloptes
Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > > On 08/20/2016 05:12 PM, deloptes wrote: >> Maureen L Thomas wrote: >> >>> [ 19.214674] r8169 :03:00.0: firmware: agent aborted loading >>> rtl_nic/rtl8168e-2.fw (not found?) >> Which kernel is this, besides in your original post you were talking >> about

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