Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 22 dec 10, 08:27:38, John Hasler wrote: Lisi writes: It is, however, easier if the names are in some easily remembered progression (e.g. Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty etc.) than if they are random (Woody, Sarge, Etch, Lenny ...) They are characters from the movie Toy Story. I've never

[OT] Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-26 Thread Chris Jones
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:30:33AM EST, John Hasler wrote: [..] I have not seen a movie in more than twenty years and probably never will see one again. I find the entire entertainment industry and everyone associated with it faintly disgusting, and, in any case, like popular music, movies

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-25 Thread Freeman
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 06:41:54PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Darac Marjal wrote: On 22/12/10 16:47, John Hasler wrote: Out of curiosity why don't Windows and Mac count? The companies spend billions hammering the code name/number for the next version into everyone's head before releasing

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-23 Thread Stan Hoeppner
John Hasler put forth on 12/22/2010 10:35 AM: Lisi writes: But I don't see how that is supposed to make it easy to remember them! You are supposed to have seen the movie nine times and been so thrilled with the special effects that you memorized the list of characters. The number of

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-23 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 22. 12. 2010 17:30:33 je John Hasler napisal(a): Petrus Validus writes: The Toy Story movies are good, I would recommend them. I have not seen a movie in more than twenty years and probably never will see one again. I find the entire entertainment industry and everyone associated with it

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-23 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Darac Marjal put forth on 12/22/2010 3:14 PM: On 22/12/10 16:47, John Hasler wrote: Out of curiosity why don't Windows and Mac count? The companies spend billions hammering the code name/number for the next version into everyone's head before releasing it. Despite never having used Windows

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Stan Hoeppner wrote: Both the Linux kernel and Postfix follow the same trend. Both have been on major revision 2 for---ever now. Considering the way the versioning is done on both Linux and Postfix, there will never be a 3.x release of either, as the core architecture will never undergo

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-23 Thread Adrian Levi
On 23 December 2010 21:20, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: I think you will find that the kernel will advance as I understand it, the 2.6 is the current normal branch and 2.7 is development, once 2.7 makes it to 2.8, then 2.9 will be dev . 3.0 / 3.1 and

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4d13308c.2060...@affinityvision.com.au, Andrew McGlashan wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: Both the Linux kernel and Postfix follow the same trend. Both have been on major revision 2 for---ever now. Considering the way the versioning is done on both Linux and Postfix, there will never be a 3.x

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-23 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:24:25 +1000 Adrian Levi adrian.l...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 December 2010 21:20, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: I think you will find that the kernel will advance as I understand it, the 2.6 is the current normal branch and 2.7 is

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread teddieeb
On Tuesday 21 December 2010 22:16:42 Mark Goldshtein wrote: It is, however, easier if the names are in some easily remembered progression (e.g. Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty etc.) than if they are random (Woody, Sarge, Etch, Lenny ...) - I always found Ubuntu's system more confusing in terms of

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:09:39 -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: On 2010-12-21 2:16 PM, Mark Goldshtein wrote: I am just curious, how novices 'get lost' with, for example, Debian Stable 2011? Of course, after that, you may add 6.0 and Squeeze and whatever the Team wants, for example, full GNU v3

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread teddieeb
To me, it seems reasonable to talk about this as newcomers (me included) are not aware of the inners of these naming decisions, but my vote would go for the current system. [SNIP] Camaleón --- Camaleón, a newcommer??? I just don't see that, you are able to like help almost everybody who

[OT] Debian newcomers (was: lenny squeeze etc etc)

2010-12-22 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 11:42:39 +, teddieeb wrote: To me, it seems reasonable to talk about this as newcomers (me included) are not aware of the inners of these naming decisions, but my vote would go for the current system. [SNIP] Camaleón --- Camaleón, a newcommer??? In

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Florian Rehnisch
o Jim Pazarena deb...@paz.bz: what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy naming system which throws the novice? Rumors are, there is a Debian

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread teddieeb
Rumors are, there is a Debian based operating system out there, that numbers it's releases year/month and gives them alphabetically ascending code names... flori --- Yes, and just like Voldermort, we must not speak it's evil name... TeddyB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Eric KOM
On 12/22/2010 3:44 PM, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote: Rumors are, there is a Debian based operating system out there, that numbers it's releases year/month and gives them alphabetically ascending code names... can you let's us know the name of that new Debian based OS? flori ---

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Petrus Validus
My experience is with Suse (all numbers) and FreeBSD (all numbers). Wind$ws doesn't count! And, for that matter, Mac doesn't count. Out of curiosity why don't Windows and Mac count? -- Petrus Validus petrus.vali...@gmail.com If there isn't a way, I'll make one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread John Hasler
Lisi writes: It is, however, easier if the names are in some easily remembered progression (e.g. Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty etc.) than if they are random (Woody, Sarge, Etch, Lenny ...) They are characters from the movie Toy Story. I've never seen it, but I got the impression back when the

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Petrus Validus
They are characters from the movie Toy Story. I've never seen it, but I got the impression back when the decision to use them was made that the progression is obvious if you have. The Toy Story movies are good, I would recommend them. BTW what is Ubuntu going to do after Zoftig Zebra?

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 22 December 2010 14:27:38 John Hasler wrote: Lisi writes: It is, however, easier if the names are in some easily remembered progression (e.g. Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty etc.) than if they are random (Woody, Sarge, Etch, Lenny ...) They are characters from the movie Toy Story.

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Slicky Johnson
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:23:16 + Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 22 December 2010 14:27:38 John Hasler wrote: Lisi writes: It is, however, easier if the names are in some easily remembered progression (e.g. Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty etc.) than if they are random (Woody,

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread John Hasler
Petrus Validus writes: The Toy Story movies are good, I would recommend them. I have not seen a movie in more than twenty years and probably never will see one again. I find the entire entertainment industry and everyone associated with it faintly disgusting, and, in any case, like popular

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread John Hasler
Lisi writes: But I don't see how that is supposed to make it easy to remember them! You are supposed to have seen the movie nine times and been so thrilled with the special effects that you memorized the list of characters. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
John Hasler wrote: Lisi writes: But I don't see how that is supposed to make it easy to remember them! You are supposed to have seen the movie nine times and been so thrilled with the special effects that you memorized the list of characters. Ahhh... so that's an essential

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread John Hasler
Out of curiosity why don't Windows and Mac count? The companies spend billions hammering the code name/number for the next version into everyone's head before releasing it. Despite never having used Windows even I know that Microsoft's current OS release is Windows 7 and the the previous one

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: You are supposed to have seen the movie nine times and been so thrilled with the special effects that you memorized the list of characters. Miles Fidelman writes: Ahhh... so that's an essential qualification for using Debian? :-) Can't be. I use it. -- John Hasler -- To

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread owens
Original Message From: petrus.vali...@gmail.com To: jhas...@debian.org Subject: Re: lenny squeeze etc etc Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:05:07 -0500 They are characters from the movie Toy Story. I've never seen it, but I got the impression back when the decision to use them was made

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread teddieeb
Miles Fidelman writes: Ahhh... so that's an essential qualification for using Debian? :-) - Well, Technically, Squeeze could mean a lot of things to a lot of diffrent people... Just putting that out there I've gone way past helpful this time; TeddyB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Petrus Validus
How about double wrapping as in AAron AArdvark I like it! :D -- Petrus Validus petrus.vali...@gmail.com If there isn't a way, I'll make one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:27:38 -0600 John Hasler jhas...@debian.org wrote: Lisi writes: It is, however, easier if the names are in some easily remembered progression (e.g. Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty etc.) than if they are random (Woody, Sarge, Etch, Lenny ...) They are characters from the

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Darac Marjal
On 22/12/10 16:47, John Hasler wrote: Out of curiosity why don't Windows and Mac count? The companies spend billions hammering the code name/number for the next version into everyone's head before releasing it. Despite never having used Windows even I know that Microsoft's current OS

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Darac Marjal wrote: On 22/12/10 16:47, John Hasler wrote: Out of curiosity why don't Windows and Mac count? The companies spend billions hammering the code name/number for the next version into everyone's head before releasing it. Despite never having used Windows even I know that

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-21 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 21. 12. 2010 03:45:51 je Jerome BENOIT napisal(a): Hi , On 21/12/10 10:18, Jim Pazarena wrote: what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-21 Thread Claudius Hubig
Justin The Cynical cyni...@penguinness.org wrote: On 12/20/2010 20:45, Petrus Validus wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 18:18 -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-21 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:18:37 -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy naming system which throws the novice? I

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
Bob Proulx wrote: Additionally in Debian the release number doesn't really figure into package upgrades. It doesn't matter that Lenny is 5 and Squeeze is 6 because the upgrade happens at the package level and every package has its own version number. The number of the release is relatively

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-21 Thread Mark Goldshtein
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Jim Pazarena wrote: having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy naming system which throws the novice? In my experience it is the

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-21 Thread Jim Pazarena
On 2010-12-21 2:16 PM, Mark Goldshtein wrote: On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Bob Proulxb...@proulx.com wrote: Jim Pazarena wrote: having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy naming system which throws the

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-21 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 21 December 2010 22:16:42 Mark Goldshtein wrote: I am just curious, how novices 'get lost' with, for example, Debian Stable 2011? Of course, after that, you may add 6.0 and Squeeze and whatever the Team wants, for example, full GNU v3 license text. a) Suppose that there are several

lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-20 Thread Jim Pazarena
what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy naming system which throws the novice? -- Jim Pazarena deb...@paz.bz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-20 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hi , On 21/12/10 10:18, Jim Pazarena wrote: what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy naming system which throws the novice? do you really

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Jim Pazarena wrote: what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? It isn't just Debian. Most of the software distributions use names for their releases *in addition to* the version numbering just like Debian does. Debian isn't unique here. Just like car companies name their car

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-20 Thread John Hasler
Jim Pazarena wrote: what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy naming system which throws the novice? This was all fought out on debian-devel

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-20 Thread teddieeb
Jim Pazarena said: what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy naming system which throws the novice? - Windows 98, 2000 Pro., ME, XP, Vista,

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-20 Thread Petrus Validus
On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 18:18 -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy naming system which throws the novice? Don't

Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-20 Thread Justin The Cynical
On 12/20/2010 20:45, Petrus Validus wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 18:18 -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy