Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Didn't the initial message say that the Internet *was* working, and then > suddenly *stopped* working, right in the middle of a download? > > That, together with the interface not being UP, points to the > configuration being OK, but something going wrong at the hardware

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Frank McCormick
Another user here made a comment that clued me into what the problem really was. I had done an update of Trixie which went fine. Then I started to do something which I had been planning for a while - remove the Cinnamon desktop. I was doing it piecemeal when seemingly the internet dropped

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:24:22 -0400 Frank McCormick wrote: > ip address show > 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN > group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd > 00:00:00:00:00:00 > inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lovalid_lft forever preferred_lft > forever > i

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 16. September 2024, 19:59:44 CEST schrieb Frank McCormick: > I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie > on one of two partitions on my ssd. > I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by > installing Seahorse. Apt quit halfway through do

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 15:47:10 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Tom Furie wrote: > > Actually, it doesn't look good - you don't have any ip addresses on eno1, > > the interface is down. You're going to have to find out why that is. > > Since it's recognized, it was probably not configured. > > Easie

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Furie wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 03:24:22PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > ip address show > > 2: eno1: mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default > > qlen 1000 > > link/ether 44:87:fc:d8:3b:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff altname enp0s25 > > > I am no expert but it seems to look

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 03:24:22PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > ip address show > 2: eno1: mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default > qlen 1000 > link/ether 44:87:fc:d8:3b:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff altname enp0s25 > I am no expert but it seems to look good. Firefox can't find any site

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2024-09-16 14:46, tuxi...@posteo.de wrote: On Monday, September 16, 2024 7:59:44 PM CEST Frank McCormick wrote: I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on one of two partitions on my ssd. Hi! I'm having similar random disconnect issues where even DHCP w

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2024-09-16 14:21, Dan Ritter wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: It's not a hardware problem as I have full access on the other partition which runs Opensuse Tumbleweed. Earlier today I did an update of Trixie and it went fine. We can rule out the ISP, the router, any switches in the way,

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 16 Sep 2024 14:46 -0400, from debianl...@videotron.ca (Frank McCormick): >> # systemctl restart networking > >I'll reboot and try that. Following a suggestion I found on the net I did > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart and that **seems** to have restarted the > network, BUT browsers can'

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2024-09-16 14:21, Dan Ritter wrote: Ever since that I have no internet access in Trixie. It's not a hardware problem as I have full access on the other partition which runs Opensuse Tumbleweed. Earlier today I did an update of Trixie and it went fine. We can rule out the ISP, the rout

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread tuxifan
On Monday, September 16, 2024 7:59:44 PM CEST Frank McCormick wrote: > I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie > on one of two partitions on my ssd. > I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by > installing Seahorse. Apt quit halfway through dow

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2024-09-16 14:27, Kent West wrote: On 9/16/24 12:59 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on  one of two partitions on my ssd. I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by installing Seahorse.  Apt quit halfwa

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread DdB
Am 16.09.2024 um 20:27 schrieb Kent West: > > On 9/16/24 12:59 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: >> I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie >> on  one of two partitions on my ssd. >> I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by >> installing Seahorse.  Ap

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Frank McCormick wrote: > I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on > one of two partitions on my ssd. > I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by installing > Seahorse. Apt quit halfway through downloading the necessary files > complaining it

Re: Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Kent West
On 9/16/24 12:59 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on  one of two partitions on my ssd. I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by installing Seahorse.  Apt quit halfway through downloading the necessary file

Lost internet access on Trixie this morning.

2024-09-16 Thread Frank McCormick
I am faced with a strange problem. I have no internet access on Trixie on one of two partitions on my ssd. I was attempting to solve a problem I am having with Vivaldi by installing Seahorse. Apt quit halfway through downloading the necessary files complaining it could not resolve a bunch of D

Re: Re: GRUB lost graphical terminal mode

2024-02-20 Thread Borden
>On 19 Feb 2024 22:44 +0100, from borde...@tutanota.com (Borden): >>> Would you be willing to post your /boot/grub/grub.cfg for a setup >>> where you get the blank screen GRUB? >>  >> Yeah, I probably should have opened with that. Sorry: >>  >> ``` >> # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' af

Re: GRUB lost graphical terminal mode

2024-02-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:04:47 + Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > On 19 Feb 2024 22:44 +0100, from borde...@tutanota.com (Borden): > >> Would you be willing to post your /boot/grub/grub.cfg for a setup > >> where you get the blank screen GRUB? > > > > Yeah, I probably should

Re: GRUB lost graphical terminal mode

2024-02-20 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 19 Feb 2024 22:44 +0100, from borde...@tutanota.com (Borden): >> Would you be willing to post your /boot/grub/grub.cfg for a setup >> where you get the blank screen GRUB? > > Yeah, I probably should have opened with that. Sorry: > > ``` > # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards

Re: Re: GRUB lost graphical terminal mode

2024-02-19 Thread Borden
> On 18 Feb 2024 21:28 +0100, from borde...@tutanota.com (Borden): > > what the default is when neither of those are set (which doesn't > > work). Is this another "undocumented feature" of GRUB? > > Would you be willing to post your /boot/grub/grub.cfg for a setup where you > get the blank screen

Re: GRUB lost graphical terminal mode

2024-02-18 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 18 Feb 2024 21:28 +0100, from borde...@tutanota.com (Borden): > what the default is when neither of those are set (which doesn't > work). Is this another "undocumented feature" of GRUB? Would you be willing to post your /boot/grub/grub.cfg for a setup where you get the blank screen GRUB? -- M

Re: Re: GRUB lost graphical terminal mode

2024-02-18 Thread Borden
> Or perhaps you have all colors set to blank. > Try add something like > GRUB_COLOR_NORMAL="light-blue/black" > GRUB_COLOR_HIGHLIGHT="light-cyan/blue" Unfortunately, that didn't work. Still a blank screen. I'm curious that if GRUB_TERMINAL=gfxterm works and GRUB_TERMINAL=console works, what the

Re: GRUB lost graphical terminal mode

2024-02-17 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-02-16, Borden wrote: > For a couple weeks now, I can't use graphical terminal in my GRUB > configuration. Setting `GRUB_TERMINAL=console` works fine. With that line > commented out, (thus using default settings), I get a blank screen on boot, 5 > second timeout, then normal boot. > > Curio

Re: GRUB lost graphical terminal mode

2024-02-16 Thread Borden
Thank you for the tip! So `GRUB_TERMINAL=gfxterm` works, `GRUB_TERMINAL=console` works, but whatever the default is supposed to be does not. Does this imply that "the platform's native terminal output" is broken?

Re: GRUB lost graphical terminal mode

2024-02-16 Thread Darac Marjal
On 16/02/2024 17:27, Borden wrote: For a couple weeks now, I can't use graphical terminal in my GRUB configuration. Setting `GRUB_TERMINAL=console` works fine. With that line commented out, (thus using default settings), I get a blank screen on boot, 5 second timeout, then normal boot. Curio

GRUB lost graphical terminal mode

2024-02-16 Thread Borden
For a couple weeks now, I can't use graphical terminal in my GRUB configuration. Setting `GRUB_TERMINAL=console` works fine. With that line commented out, (thus using default settings), I get a blank screen on boot, 5 second timeout, then normal boot. Curiously, keyboard commands work normally.

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-11 Thread Default User
happens if you back up filesystems to filesystems? > > I never use the backup's medium top-level dir as a target. In my > current > usage, that's how my medium looks like: > >   tomas@trotzki:~$ ls -l /media/backup >   total 20 >   drwx-- 2 root root 16384 Aug 2

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-11 Thread tomas
a target. In my current usage, that's how my medium looks like: tomas@trotzki:~$ ls -l /media/backup total 20 drwx-- 2 root root 16384 Aug 27 2022 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Aug 27 2022 trotzki ...so there's a top-level dir named after the "client" host. My

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-11 Thread debian-user
wrote: > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 03:42:01PM -0400, Default User wrote: > > Hi! > > > > When backing up my system I have been using this exclusions list: > > > > /dev/* > > /proc/* > > /sys/* > > /tmp/* > > /run/* > > /mnt/* >

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-10 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 03:42:01PM -0400, Default User wrote: > Hi! > > When backing up my system I have been using this exclusions list: > > /dev/* > /proc/* > /sys/* > /tmp/* > /run/* > /mnt/* > /media/* > /lost+found > > There are many sources onl

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 09:15:31PM -0400, Default User wrote: > Fortunately, since my lost+found directories are all empty, I have no > "raw material" to practice extraction on. There's no "extraction". If a file is there, it will be a file. It will hav

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-10 Thread Default User
On Thu, 2023-08-10 at 22:03 +, Minecraftchest1 wrote: > This post on the U&L Stack Exchange sitr summs it up fairly well. > https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/18157. > > In short, `lost+found` is a place for fscheck to link filesystem > entries that don't have an en

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-10 Thread David Wright
On Thu 10 Aug 2023 at 15:52:02 (-0700), Bob McGowan wrote: > On 8/10/23 03:03 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > > Default User (12023-08-10): > > > > > And, if /lost+found should be excluded, then shouldn't "lost+found" > > > > > in any other

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-10 Thread Bob McGowan
On 8/10/23 03:03 PM, Nicolas George wrote: Default User (12023-08-10): And, if /lost+found should be excluded, then shouldn't "lost+found" in any other directories be excluded from backups as well? Why/why not? Unfortunately, I regret to say that I did not find that the answer

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:03:26AM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Default User (12023-08-10): > > > > And, if /lost+found should be excluded, then shouldn't "lost+found" > > > > in any other directories be excluded from backups as well? Why/why > >

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-10 Thread Nicolas George
Default User (12023-08-10): > > > And, if /lost+found should be excluded, then shouldn't "lost+found" > > > in any other directories be excluded from backups as well? Why/why > > > not? > Unfortunately, I regret to say that I did not find that the an

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-10 Thread Default User
On Thu, 2023-08-10 at 21:45 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Default User (12023-08-10): > > And, if /lost+found should be excluded, then shouldn't "lost+found" > > in > > any other directories be excluded from backups as well? Why/why > > not? > >

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-10 Thread Nicolas George
Default User (12023-08-10): > And, if /lost+found should be excluded, then shouldn't "lost+found" in > any other directories be excluded from backups as well? Why/why not? Before anybody answers all your question, there is something that needs checking: Do you know what l

Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

2023-08-10 Thread Default User
Hi! When backing up my system I have been using this exclusions list: /dev/* /proc/* /sys/* /tmp/* /run/* /mnt/* /media/* /lost+found There are many sources online that suggest that "/lost+found" should be excluded from backups, but I can't seem to find a good explanation for

Re: Lost HDMI monitor connection

2023-07-19 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 18/07/2023 12:00, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: On 17/07/2023 20:29, riveravaldez wrote: On 7/17/23, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: I recently upgraded 2 laptops from Bullseye to Bookworm and no longer have access to my external monitor from one of them. My environment consists of a couple of lap

Re: Lost HDMI monitor connection

2023-07-18 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 17/07/2023 20:29, riveravaldez wrote: On 7/17/23, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: I recently upgraded 2 laptops from Bullseye to Bookworm and no longer have access to my external monitor from one of them. My environment consists of a couple of laptops connected to an external monitor via an HDMI

Re: Lost HDMI monitor connection

2023-07-17 Thread riveravaldez
On 7/17/23, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > I recently upgraded 2 laptops from Bullseye to Bookworm and no longer > have access to my external monitor from one of them. > > My environment consists of a couple of laptops connected to an external > monitor via an HDMI Switch that, until the upgrades, g

Re: Lost HDMI monitor connection

2023-07-17 Thread Bret Busby
On 18/7/23 01:11, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: I recently upgraded 2 laptops from Bullseye to Bookworm and no longer have access to my external monitor from one of them. My environment consists of a couple of laptops connected to an external monitor via an HDMI Switch that, until the upgrades, g

Lost HDMI monitor connection

2023-07-17 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
I recently upgraded 2 laptops from Bullseye to Bookworm and no longer have access to my external monitor from one of them. My environment consists of a couple of laptops connected to an external monitor via an HDMI Switch that, until the upgrades, gave excellent service. The only diagnostic I

Re: Lost internet access after "# apt update"

2022-07-02 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 13:51 riveravaldez wrote: > > I was not able to ping google.com: no dns address found so it just hung. > > If you can, for instance, `ping 8.8.8.8`, maybe it's just a DNS > misconfiguration. You can try setting the IP address of the modem > (something like 192.168.0.1 or 10

Re: Lost internet access after "# apt update"

2022-07-01 Thread riveravaldez
> I was not able to ping google.com: no dns address found so it just hung. If you can, for instance, `ping 8.8.8.8`, maybe it's just a DNS misconfiguration. You can try setting the IP address of the modem (something like 192.168.0.1 or 10.0.0.1, for instance) as DNS. > I was able to get a respons

Re: Lost internet access after "# apt update"

2022-06-30 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 15:35 riveravaldez wrote: > On 6/30/22, Tom Browder wrote: > > (...) Thanks for your suggestions. I was able to briefly look at the responses but I will have to give exact details tomorrow. I was not able to ping google.com: no dns address found so it just hung. I was

Re: Lost internet access after "# apt update"

2022-06-30 Thread riveravaldez
On 6/30/22, Tom Browder wrote: > (...) > > Note I had just updated and upgraded three Deb 11 servers in the cloud and > was lulled into thinking my home laptop should update just as flawlessly. > But I was sorely mistaken! Now, while on the laptop, I can see that I > appear to be connected to my L

Lost internet access after "# apt update"

2022-06-30 Thread Tom Browder
I came home after being away for over a week, logged in to my home server (Debian 11 on a laptop) remotely through a terminix app on my iPad, checked for updates, accepted all and started the update. (I stupidly did not use an open terminal on the laptop screen and watch as I normally do.) Note I

Re: xmodmap settings lost when (usb) keyboard reattached.

2021-12-17 Thread David Wright
ox so this happens quite a lot) the setting is lost. > > Before I start writing udev rules to auto reapply this setting when the > keyboard is (re)attached, is there some other, better, way to make this > setting stick? You could try editing /etc/console-setup/remap.inc and running # dpkg-r

Re: xmodmap settings lost when (usb) keyboard reattached.

2021-12-17 Thread Anssi Saari
Vincent Lefevre writes: > In the past, I wrote a script, put in the /etc/pm/sleep.d directory: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=633849#92 > > but there were some issues with it, as I mentioned there. It's also not directly applicable when the issue isn't related to pm-util

Re: xmodmap settings lost when (usb) keyboard reattached.

2021-12-15 Thread John Crawley
On 16/12/2021 01:53, Tim Woodall wrote: I run the following command to switch my caps-lock to escape: xmodmap -e 'clear Lock' -e 'keycode 0x42 = Escape' However, if I disconnect and reconnect my keyboard (I have a KVM switch box so this happens quite a lot) the setting is l

Re: xmodmap settings lost when (usb) keyboard reattached.

2021-12-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2021-12-15 16:53:54 +, Tim Woodall wrote: > I run the following command to switch my caps-lock to escape: > xmodmap -e 'clear Lock' -e 'keycode 0x42 = Escape' > > However, if I disconnect and reconnect my keyboard (I have a KVM switch > box so this happe

xmodmap settings lost when (usb) keyboard reattached.

2021-12-15 Thread Tim Woodall
I run the following command to switch my caps-lock to escape: xmodmap -e 'clear Lock' -e 'keycode 0x42 = Escape' However, if I disconnect and reconnect my keyboard (I have a KVM switch box so this happens quite a lot) the setting is lost. Before I start writing udev rules

Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 03:56:09PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Harald Dunkel wrote: how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot? This has not y

Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Mon 30 Aug 2021 at 21:37:50 (+0200), Harald Dunkel wrote: > how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the > (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not > completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot? I would presume that a headless

Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
Is iwctl part of default bullseye installations? Maybe networkd.service can be used with systemd this I haven't tried since I'm using ethernet but do have wi-fi capability. I could try these avenues and see if they're open. On Mon, 30 Aug 2021, Dan Ritter wrote: > Harald Dunkel wrote: > > how

Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Harald Dunkel wrote: > how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the > (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not > completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot? This has not yet happened to me in nine or ten upgrades to bullseye; al

Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Aug 2021 at 21:37:50 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the > (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not That's a good question. Completely devoid of infirmation. But still a good quest

ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot? Regards Harri

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-05 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 21:21:33 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > > The objective of Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside appears to be to put > > the user in his place. > > > Strangely, I got many thanks from this user, when I explained to him > about the fact that "top posting" d

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 09:21:33PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-04 3:19 p.m., Brian wrote: > > On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 20:48:50 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > The previous remark about following all the different messages from > > -user is insulting, ne

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-04 3:19 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 20:48:50 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > The previous remark about following all the different messages from > -user is insulting, nevermind condescending. > It is of basic logic to see something as a whole before expressing on

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi Greg, On 2021-08-04 3:30 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 08:19:25PM +0100, Brian wrote: >> The problem has now become the user? Who may be ignored, of course? > > The question, I think, is whether this *particular* user has crossed > the line from "well-meaning but failing

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 22:34:20 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Thank you David for the reminder > > I'm afraid that August sneaked up on me without me noticing. I've reposted > the FAQ and I've used some of the suggestions you've outlined in a new piece > about how to ask smart questions and r

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread mick crane
trollhunter is one of my favorite films. I think recent international events have made everybody grumpy. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Thank you David for the reminder I'm afraid that August sneaked up on me without me noticing. I've reposted the FAQ and I've used some of the suggestions you've outlined in a new piece about how to ask smart questions and read answers. The general advice that is often given to go away and read Er

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 13:31:53 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > Here's what I would suggest to Gunnar, and to anyone else who is not > getting the responses they want from a mailing list: > > 1) Only try to solve one problem at a time. [ … ] > > 2) Put all of the information you have into one mes

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 12:35:29 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >>> What command do you use ? > >>> Mostly the answer would be NO > >> *still waiting for answer* > > > > Seriously? You /wait/ for answers here? > > (Dare I say it), you /want/ another post from the OP? > No

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 08:19:25PM +0100, Brian wrote: > The problem has now become the user? Who may be ignored, of course? The question, I think, is whether this *particular* user has crossed the line from "well-meaning but failing" to malicious. I think they're still on the well-meaning side,

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 20:48:50 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 02:00:25PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 2021-08-04 1:18 p.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > but I do dislike the general tone. It is obvious that the OP is

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 02:00:25PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-04 1:18 p.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > but I do dislike the general tone. It is obvious that the OP is > > having a hard time to express him/herself understandably [...] > Sorry, but i

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 14:00:25 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-04 1:18 p.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:42:28PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > wrote: > >> Hi, > > > >> I don't know where you saw insinuation of malice. >

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 19:18:38 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:42:28PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > Hi, > > > I don't know where you saw insinuation of malice. > > for example: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/08/msg00167.html

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-04 1:18 p.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:42:28PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> Hi, > >> I don't know where you saw insinuation of malice. > > for example: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/08/msg00167.html > > but I d

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi Greg, On 2021-08-04 1:31 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:35:29PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> Go try IRC and you'll see that this "Gunnar" is far from a exception and >> trolling may be the rule on such system (IRC). > > At the moment, I see no ev

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:35:29PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Go try IRC and you'll see that this "Gunnar" is far from a exception and > trolling may be the rule on such system (IRC). At the moment, I see no evidence that Gunnar is trolling, although obviously I could be mista

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:42:28PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > I don't know where you saw insinuation of malice. for example: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/08/msg00167.html but I do dislike the general tone. It is obvious that the OP is having a hard time

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-04 9:12 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 08:35:46AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> Intentioinally top posting: This whole exchange, in various threads, seems >> to >> be bordering on the toxic and I'd like to see it improved somehow. > > Thanks. Helpin

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, >>> What command do you use ? >>> Mostly the answer would be NO >> *still waiting for answer* > > Seriously? You /wait/ for answers here? > (Dare I say it), you /want/ another post from the OP? No I don't wait for answer. It's just a way to politely explain that if you want people to

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 06:55:02 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-04 6:49 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > Thx > Thanks, nothing prohibit you from writing complete words. > > If you want really to get help maybe read and answer questions people > ask you ? And not

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 08:35:46AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Intentioinally top posting: This whole exchange, in various threads, seems to > be bordering on the toxic and I'd like to see it improved somehow. Thanks. Helping someone to improve isn't a justification to jump all over him/he

Re: HOW's lost @ $ €

2021-08-04 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 4/8/21 20:35, Gunnar Gervin wrote: Seems to me this old Mac can't boot from usb, This link https://www.uubyte.com/boot-mac-from-usb.html and this https://recoverit.wondershare.com/mac-tips/boot-from-usb-drive-mac.html say hold the option key from power on; as well as detailed info about cr

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread rhkramer
Intentioinally top posting: This whole exchange, in various threads, seems to be bordering on the toxic and I'd like to see it improved somehow. Suggestions? On Wednesday, August 04, 2021 06:55:02 AM Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-08-04 6:49 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > Thx

Re: HOW's lost @ $ EUR

2021-08-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > The commands to burn iso to usb, are they usable for dvd, too? This depends on the medium type and state. Those commands can work with BD-RE, DVD-RAM, DVD+RW, formatted DVD-RW (via a packet device set up by pktsetup(1) from package udftools), and formatted CD-RW (format

Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-04 6:49 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Thx Thanks, nothing prohibit you from writing complete words. If you want really to get help maybe read and answer questions people ask you ? And not only ask others, because it's starting to be politely useless here. > > On Wed, 4 Aug 2021, 13

Re: HOW's lost @ $ €

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-04 6:43 a.m., Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-04 6:35 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > You seem (again) to have a problem writing useful title for your messages. > Gunnar wrote a message saying "HOW", great we all know what he's asking for before even re

Re: HOW's lost @ $ €

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-04 6:35 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: You seem (again) to have a problem writing useful title for your messages. > Hi again, all. > I decided to reinstall, to get back > Xfce, Synaptic, @ $ € , and clean away the mess I probably made with a > rogue command as root. > Seems to me this

HOW's lost @ $ €

2021-08-04 Thread Gunnar Gervin
Hi again, all. I decided to reinstall, to get back Xfce, Synaptic, @ $ € , and clean away the mess I probably made with a rogue command as root. Seems to me this old Mac can't boot from usb, only cd or dvd. The commands to burn iso to usb, are they usable for dvd, too? 2 other questions: 1. It was

Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-08-04 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
om NirSoft. [1] It works with WINE. If password database files were not corrupted somehow, it will show stored accounts and passwords from TB profile. [1] https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/mailpv.html I recently downloaded and installed T/B after having lost the use of it a couple of months ago w

Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-08-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
All passwords need to be written and secured. First by being part of a book or being in a specific place in a hard copy file. Second, encrypted before written down. For anyone to be able to use any of those passwords even if found they'd have to know the encryption system you used.

Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-08-03 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 4/8/21 10:03, Douglas McGarrett wrote: a Master Password. What is it, and where is it, and should I need it? go: edit|preferences|privacy& Security and on my screen 'Passwords' is close to the bottom before you start scrolling -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail

Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-08-03 Thread Douglas McGarrett
ssword database files were not corrupted somehow, it will show stored accounts and passwords from TB profile. [1] https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/mailpv.html I recently downloaded and installed T/B after having lost the use of it a couple of months ago when it refused to recognize my password or any n

Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-07-18 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 19.07.2021 05:13, w...@mgssub.com wrote: I installed tbird 78.12.0 (64-bit)  and it can't find my email passwords. I have browsed signons.sqlite  and the passwords seem to be there in the middle of the db. I have tried to install a prior version of tbird but dpkg has thwarted those efforts s

Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-07-18 Thread wix
I installed tbird 78.12.0 (64-bit) and it can't find my email passwords. I have browsed signons.sqlite and the passwords seem to be there in the middle of the db. I have tried to install a prior version of tbird but dpkg has thwarted those efforts so far! Any other ideas suggestions would be apprec

chromium browser lost stored passwords after upgrade from Stretch to Buster

2021-05-30 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
I upgraded on 25th May office computer Debian Stretch to Buster. Home directory comes from NFS server. Chromium browser now longer has the stored passwords available. Other browsers, Firefox and Google Chrome, do have the passwords still. Where did chromium browser on Stretch store the passwords?

Re: Network and KDE lost after testing upgrade

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
launched. Using > `networkctl`, it seems that all interfaces configurations are lost. Well, Network Manager and systemd-networkd are completely different softwares, and it's probably best use only one or the other. > In > the same time, I can't launch a kde session, I can

Re: System time instantly wrong when network lost

2020-08-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 07:57:07AM -0400, Carl wrote: Optimum Online is out here (Long Island). When I lost internet service, system time almost instantly switched to December 13, 2017 at 00:00 or so. If I connect the computer via my phone hotspot, NTP corrects the time rather quickly. As soon

Re: System time instantly wrong when network lost

2020-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Aug 2020 at 07:57:07 (-0400), Carl wrote: > Optimum Online is out here (Long Island). When I lost internet service, > system time almost instantly switched to December 13, 2017 at 00:00 or so. If > I connect the computer via my phone hotspot, NTP corrects the time rather >

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