Re: par2

2014-08-14 Thread AW
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:44:16 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > this is not a situation where we are worried about > attackers Crypto is crypto... and md5, sha1, sha256 are cryptographic hashes. And a cryptographic hash is only as good as its slowness in reverse computation and its uniqueness [collisio

Re: par2

2014-08-14 Thread AW
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:18:21 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > Did you mean 3xiTB, by any chance? There will be blood... err.. typos. --Andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: htt

Re: par2

2014-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 5:20 AM, AW wrote: > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:08:41 -0400 > Gary Dale wrote: > > > Whatever for? There are better checksums and md5 doesn't provide error > > correction? Even the MD5 man page advises using sha checksums instead. > > md5sum provides a relatively quick check

Re: par2

2014-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 4:56 AM, AW wrote: > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:24:49 -0400 > Gary Dale wrote: > > > Assuming you have both a backup copy and a live copy plus some par2 > > files, you should be safe with the 5% to 10% I suggested. > > If going with an external

Re: par2

2014-08-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 08:40:40AM -0400, AW wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:30:14 +1200 > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > That's dammned expensive and not useful at all!!! > > It's very useful. Consider the yearly savings in electricity. And if you You snipped it!! Read what you wrote, again.

Re: par2

2014-08-11 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:30:14 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 03:56:14PM -0400, AW wrote: > > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:24:49 -0400 > > Gary Dale wrote: > > > > > Assuming you have both a backup copy and a live copy plus some par2 > >

Re: par2

2014-08-11 Thread AW
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:30:14 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > Here in New Zealand - *ONE* Raspberry Pi $55.00, 16GB SD $20.00, cases Well, you do have some of the most picturesque land recorded in 48 frames per second... and Hobbits... :) > That's dammned expensive and not useful at all!!! It

Re: par2

2014-08-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 03:56:14PM -0400, AW wrote: > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:24:49 -0400 > Gary Dale wrote: > > > Assuming you have both a backup copy and a live copy plus some par2 > > files, you should be safe with the 5% to 10% I suggested. > > If going with

Re: par2

2014-08-10 Thread AW
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:50:42 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > Your results... The test was only a very simple comparison. If you want a more thorough test, it's certainly much better to break everything out the way you have listed... and it's probably best done on the chosen and completed hardware con

Re: par2

2014-08-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/14 06:02 PM, AW wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:37:52 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > The speed of the check is usually limited by the speed of reading the > file(s) from disk. A par2 check is more direct and will also > automatically repair any bit rot that has developed. D

Re: par2

2014-08-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/14 08:32 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 08/09/2014 12:24 PM, Gary Dale wrote: However I can see you wanting them to be out of the way. par2 actually puts them in the current directory unless you tell it differently so you could for example do: cd /mnt/datadrive/.par2/stuff par2

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread David Christensen
On 08/09/2014 12:24 PM, Gary Dale wrote: However I can see you wanting them to be out of the way. par2 actually puts them in the current directory unless you tell it differently so you could for example do: cd /mnt/datadrive/.par2/stuff par2 c files.par2 ../../stuff/* or just: par2 c

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread AW
On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:37:52 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > The speed of the check is usually limited by the speed of reading the > file(s) from disk. A par2 check is more direct and will also > automatically repair any bit rot that has developed. Definitely not. For very small files n

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
if it fails, then use the "real" check, i.e. pars. This saves [or seems to save] computing resources... However, it was just a suggestion... --Andrew The speed of the check is usually limited by the speed of reading the file(s) from disk. A par2 check is more direct and will also automat

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread AW
On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:08:41 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > Whatever for? There are better checksums and md5 doesn't provide error > correction? Even the MD5 man page advises using sha checksums instead. md5sum provides a relatively quick check... if it fails, then use the "real" check, i.e. pars.

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/14 03:56 PM, AW wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:24:49 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > Assuming you have both a backup copy and a live copy plus some par2 > files, you should be safe with the 5% to 10% I suggested. If going with an external backup and pars... I'd also add md5

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread AW
On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:24:49 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > Assuming you have both a backup copy and a live copy plus some par2 > files, you should be safe with the 5% to 10% I suggested. If going with an external backup and pars... I'd also add md5sums to the list. I've had gre

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/14 11:35 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 08/09/2014 08:11 AM, Gary Dale wrote: To preserve your archive, I'd advise PAR2 redundancy files to fix any problems that may crop up. So long as your HD copies are good, you don't need to go to the PAR2 files, but should one develop

par2

2014-08-09 Thread David Christensen
On 08/09/2014 08:11 AM, Gary Dale wrote: To preserve your archive, I'd advise PAR2 redundancy files to fix any problems that may crop up. So long as your HD copies are good, you don't need to go to the PAR2 files, but should one develop a problem, you can fix it with the PAR2 files. Ha

Re: Using par2

2005-12-30 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 21:24 +0700, David Garamond wrote: > I found out about par2 a few days ago and I think it's absolutely > great. And I think I've grasped the basic concept. But does anyone > know how to use par2 to accomplish the following: > > Suppose I have 500

Using par2

2005-12-29 Thread David Garamond
I found out about par2 a few days ago and I think it's absolutely great. And I think I've grasped the basic concept. But does anyone know how to use par2 to accomplish the following: Suppose I have 5000MB of data. That's a bit over 7 CDs (or 1 DVD). Can I backup this data to,