At 07:56 AM 3/10/99 -0800, you wrote:
am a member of the Debian Linux Mailing List(just like
you) and I know how boring is to receive every day hundreds
of e-mails, and don't have time to read it all.
Don't subscribe then.. :-)
Until we write again,
Bastiaan/2
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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 07:56:00 -0800, Nuno Donato wrote:
Yes that's it! A message board it's much easier to use and
you don't have hundred of e-mails in you Inbox every day. So
I will wait you all there. See ya!
Uhm, no web based message board
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:
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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 07:56:00 -0800, Nuno Donato wrote:
Yes that's it! A message board it's much easier to use and
you don't have hundred of e-mails in you Inbox every day. So
I will wait you all
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I may have a chance to go to Germany later this month. If so, I would
like to meet any Debianites and Linux activists who might have a moment to
say hi, and also attend a Linux users' group or two if there are any.
I'll be in Unna first, then travelling maybe to
the text version of the most
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Would you guys kindly leave debian-user out of your squabble?
It belongs in debian-dissent or debian-devel or private email in my opinion.
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On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:
If you are new to Debian, please don't make the mistake I made. This is a
closed
software project, where you are allowed to contribute only if you surcome to
the
personal agenda of the current leadership. This is the structure and model of
the
I'm sorry to post this message so widely, but I suspect that enough
people have been affected that the distribution is worthwhile.
For the past couple of months, one of the machines that I have been
using to process my outgoing E-mail has been silently discarding my
messages as spam due to a
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
From: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Today, RC5. Tomorrow, DES. Next
week, Phil Zimmerman's a free man. (Oh well, we can dream...)
The government dropped its case against Zimmerman long ago.
That is true, but he is still be pestered more
On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
It was OK for us to participate as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the RSA Data
Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
the Linux group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
embarassing to beat them. So please, if you
At 01:00 PM 2/26/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote:
1. Do we want it? Do we really want free software to be associated with
code-breaking in the eyes of the uneducated public? I'm not sure that
would not hurt us. Just think about the articles on a government code
being broken using a hacker tool
Bruce:
From: Mike Neuffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So far the only thing that Bruce accomplished with his uncoordinated
action is that numerous hosts dropped entirely out of the key-search.
Big deal. They have years to go. We might ask ourselves some questions
about this kind of publicity.
From: John T. Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harvey Mudd should be producing somewhere between 3 and 4 M kps by
tomarrow. Right now, most of us are running under [EMAIL PROTECTED],
but we can change that if Bruce still disagrees with our possition.
I asked the people at Zero to lump our
Bruce, don't spend all your time worrying about how Debian is going to
be viewed by the rest of the Linux community.
Uh, sorry, this is my job within the project. We've been really careful
to maintain good relations with the other Linux distributions and free
software producers. Messing them up
Bruce, I feel I have to reply after reading some follow ups, including yours.
It was OK for us to participate as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the RSA Data
Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
the Linux group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
Well
It was OK for us to participate as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the RSA Data
Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
the Linux group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
embarassing to beat them. So please, if you are participating, change your
reporting address
How is this thing being scored? Do you win by exploring a larger fraction
of the keyspace than anyone else, or by finding the key? While the
probability of any given group finding the key is proportional to the
fraction of the keyspace explored by that group, it could be found by
anybody. The
At 07:03 PM 25/02/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote:
It was OK for us to participate as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the RSA Data
Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
the Linux group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
embarassing to beat them. So please, if you
From: Karl Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why is it such a bad thing to beat the Linux group? The whole idea is to
increase the awareness of Debian Linux - when people see we're in the
number 2 slot or even number 1, we'll have good publicity.
I'd prefer to avoid the perception that we would work
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do you win by exploring a larger fraction
of the keyspace than anyone else, or by finding the key?
By finding the key. We were approaching a 1 in 10 probability of
finding the key. If we won against the Linux group, it would have
created the perception that Debian would
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do you win by exploring a larger fraction
of the keyspace than anyone else, or by finding the key?
By finding the key. We were approaching a 1 in 10 probability of
finding the key. If we won against the Linux group, it would have
created the perception that Debian
Karl Ferguson wrote:
At 07:03 PM 25/02/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote:
It was OK for us to participate as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the RSA Data
Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
the Linux group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
embarassing to
From: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Today, RC5. Tomorrow, DES. Next
week, Phil Zimmerman's a free man. (Oh well, we can dream...)
The government dropped its case against Zimmerman long ago.
Bruce
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Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Today, RC5. Tomorrow, DES. Next
week, Phil Zimmerman's a free man. (Oh well, we can dream...)
The government dropped its case against Zimmerman long ago.
I guess the government figures it can leave you alone after it bankrupts
you...but
Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yeah. If the folks at gzero.net will add the numbers from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then why would we want to
change?! I think that is all the more reason *not* to change because
we can help the greater cause while at the same time
On Feb 26, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote
Karl Ferguson wrote:
At 07:03 PM 25/02/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote:
the Linux group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
embarassing to beat them. So please, if you are participating, change your
reporting address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subtle, but correct. I've switched (my not terribly significant)
machines over...
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From: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Today, RC5. Tomorrow, DES. Next
week, Phil Zimmerman's a free man. (Oh well, we can dream...)
Bruce:
The government dropped its case against Zimmerman long ago.
Branden:
I guess the government figures it can leave you alone after it bankrupts
From: John T. Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harvey Mudd should be producing somewhere between 3 and 4 M kps by
tomarrow. Right now, most of us are running under [EMAIL PROTECTED],
but we can change that if Bruce still disagrees with our possition.
I asked the people at Zero to lump our points in
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Karl Ferguson wrote:
At 07:03 PM 25/02/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote:
It was OK for us to participate as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the RSA Data
Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating
the Linux group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real
From: Mike Neuffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So far the only thing that Bruce accomplished with his uncoordinated
action is that numerous hosts dropped entirely out of the key-search.
Big deal. They have years to go. We might ask ourselves some questions
about this kind of publicity.
1. Do we want it?
Turns out that I installed a new version of pcmcia_cs and along the way
it hoarked my configuration..
OK Tecra owners what irq do you use for your ethernet?
I try to use 11 and so with 12 being the ps/2 mouse I tried setting
PCIC_OPTS=irq_mask=0xe7ff to exclude those two interrupts but it turns
Ooops. I just bounced this post, hoping elm would let me edit it. :-(
I tried Linux 2.1.13, and found that start-stop-daemons,
which Debian uses extensively during bootup, did not work,
and possibly some other scripts. Hence 2.1.13 was useless
and I am back to 2.1.10. Has anyone else experienced
Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hamish Ooops. I just bounced this post, hoping elm would let me edit
Hamish it. :-( I tried Linux 2.1.13, and found that
Hamish start-stop-daemons, which Debian uses extensively during
Hamish bootup, did not work, and possibly some other scripts.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Johnie Ingram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hamish Ooops. I just bounced this post, hoping elm would let me edit
Hamish it. :-( I tried Linux 2.1.13, and found that
Hamish start-stop-daemons, which Debian uses extensively
Andrew == Andrew Martin Adrian Cater [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Johnie Yes, the exact same thing happened to me, apparently because
Johnie 2.1.13 does not understand the #!/usr/sbin/perl -- line in the
Johnie script. No script which gives an argument to its processor works
Andrew My guess is
On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Tom Julien wrote:
IMHO, a license like Qt's is long overdue. It makes a fine
commercial product available to both X11 and Win32, yet it
provides a great mechanism to promote freeware/open standards
like Unix/X11 *over* propriety ones. Troll's reasoning for
not allowing
The Debian FAQ, answer to question 2.1:
Debian GNU/Linux is the result of a volunteer effort to
create a free, high-quality Unix-compatible operating
system, complete with a suite of applications.
The free here has to do with freedom, not price.
While I know that, and
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