Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2010: Call for votes

2010-04-01 Thread Rémi Vanicat
Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx writes: > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 7efb5344-bc61-46d2-b86c-3d1b144e1236 > [ 1 ] Choice 1: Stefano Zacchiroli > [ 2 ] Choice 2: Wouter Verhelst > [ 5 ] Choice 3: Charles Plessy > [ 3 ] Choice 4: Margarita Ma

Debian Project Leader Elections 2010: Call for votes

2010-04-01 Thread Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx
Hi, This is the first call for votes for the Debian Project Leader Elections 2010. Voting period starts 00:00:00 UTC on Friday, April 2nd, 2010 Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC on Thursday, April 15th, 2010 This vote is being conducted as required by the Debian Constituti

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: >  You say it would be easier if you were DPL.  Why do you think >  this is the case? It is inevitable that people will take you more seriously when you are the appointed leader than if you are just a random developer. But also, the abi

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-04-01 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> I also think that we need to review the NEW uploads. But this is not what I > discuss here. I propose to let all DDs look what is in the NEW queue. (This > would of course help to review the NEW uploads). If there is ever any legal "fun" around this, it is a *HUGE* difference if you can say "On

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 03:00:29PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > I do not think it's part of the DPL responsibilities. I do > think that it's something that Debian needs and that doing it > with the DPL hat on is going to make it easier, it's not a > requirement (most stuff that DPL candida

Re: Standardization, large scale changes, innovations

2010-04-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 05:15:38AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > What about peer review of the packages? > My *peers* have no problems dealing with the build system, IMO. As long as you tautologically define your *peers* as the set of people willing to tolerate the gratuitous overhea

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: >  Simple question: How? > >  (in case it's not clear: since you seem to think it's part of >  the DPL's responsabilities, how do you plan to attract people to >  help with these things?) I do not think it's part of the DPL responsibilit

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 01:34:02AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >Le Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 09:57:38AM +0200, Frank Lin PIAT a écrit : >> >> Debian project raise it's expectation every year: higher quality, more >> package, more architectures, more Desktops, etc... (cool). >> >> How do we face the c

Thanks to everybody for this campaign.

2010-04-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all, this campaign has been much more intensive than I thought. I would like to thank everybody for their questions, and the other candidates for their answers. I had difficulties to keep up and regret that I could not discuss ideas deeper with the other candidates. I am also sorry that I lef

Re: Question for the other candidates: supermajority.

2010-04-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 05:38:09PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit : > > I don't like the underlying intuition that this entails, namely that the > GR proposer is somehow "different" from the other people which > contribute to the ballot preparation (e.g. seconders and proposers of > the initial

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 09:57:38AM +0200, Frank Lin PIAT a écrit : > > Debian project raise it's expectation every year: higher quality, more > package, more architectures, more Desktops, etc... (cool). > > How do we face the challenge to do more every year? > What would you do about it, as a DPL

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-04-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 11:53:47AM -0400, Mike O'Connor a écrit : > > It doesn't take long processing NEW to realize that many DDs cannot be > trusted to make sure that all of the code they are uploading is legally > redistributable. I also think that we need to review the NEW uploads. But this i

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 11:24:14AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > One important example is fixing bugs. Developers spend quite a > lot of time fixing bugs, and most of the time you don't need to > be a DD to fix those bugs, anybody can help out fixing more > bugs. > > Another example is the

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-04-01 Thread Mike O'Connor
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 01:45:45PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > If it is not an export or a license violation that a member of the FTP team > inspects a package, then I do not think it is for any other member of the > project. I am not proposing to give a read access to the NEW queue for any > ot

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > Debian project raise it's expectation every year: higher quality, more > package, more architectures, more Desktops, etc... (cool). > > How do we face the challenge to do more every year? There are two important things involved: improve our

Re: Standardization, large scale changes, innovations

2010-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I think this discussion is beginning to veer off topic, since it is far from figuring out who to vote for, etc. This is my last post on ths topic here, if you want to covince me of the error of my ways, please take it to private email. If you want to change how we do things to prev

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-04-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 06:47:53AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > Agreed, but would you agree that it is a core part of the role of the > DPL/2IC, or indeed any mediator, to provide at least basic status and > progress info to the project as a whole? Yes, absolutely. Beside this specific case---whic

Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
Hello dear candidates, Debian project raise it's expectation every year: higher quality, more package, more architectures, more Desktops, etc... (cool). How do we face the challenge to do more every year? What would you do about it, as a DPL? Thanks to each one of you for being candidate. Fran

Re: Standardization, large scale changes, innovations

2010-04-01 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 18:13 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > My father, for instance, often drives a screw into a piece of > > wood with a chisel when he doesn't have a screwdriver around. > > And I've also seen him chop off bits of wood with a > > screwdriver, on occasio