> "Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> Number one is something like "where should the innovation come
from?"
GN> You may notice that unlike in previous years, I do not have a Grand
GN> Vision, not in the same sense at least.
MD> Of course, those are not trivial quest
> "Lucas" == Lucas Nussbaum writes:
Lucas> In five years, what should Debian's position and role be in the Free
Lucas> Software ecosystem?
Lucas> Are there other positions where we somehow risk ending up?
Lucas> What can we rely on to get to that ideal position/role?
Lucas
> "Bas" == Bas Wijnen writes:
Bas> Everyone seems to mention firmware; I don't hear anyone saying we
really
Bas> need to support games with non-free game data, or shareware programs.
Bas> And I agree.
Bas> So to the candidates: can you please let us know whether you would be
> "Charles" == Charles Plessy writes:
Charles> You probably noted that no woman was candidate this year, and that
no woman was
Charles> appointed to the technical committee in the recent replacements.
Charles> Do you think that it is a problem that there are no women in key
pos
> "Lucas" == Lucas Nussbaum writes:
Lucas> Hi,
Lucas> You are probably familiar with SWOT analysis
Lucas> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWOT_analysis).
I am not familiar with SWOT analysis, but read through the wiki quickly.
Lucas> From your perspective, what are Debian's m
>>>>> "Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:46:04AM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote:
>> The DPL already has the power to delegate tasks. I do not see how
>> electing more than one person would help with sharing the
> "Thomas" == Thomas Goirand writes:
Thomas> On 03/15/2015 09:57 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
>> Neil,
>>
>> in your platform, you advocate PPAs and modernising our build and
>> infrastructure.
>>
>> What's the DPL's role in this? Or, put differently, couldn't you
> "Lucas" == Lucas Nussbaum writes:
Lucas> In his platform, Neil wrote:
>> I will spend some money we have horded. Debian currently holds
>> approximately $200,000 at SPI alone. Our donators didn't give us money
>> for it to be sat around in a bank account, we should spend it
> "Martin" == Martin Zobel-Helas writes:
Martin> Will you revoke <20131008134615.ga19...@xanadu.blop.info> or do you
Martin> think this authorization is useful?
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> "martin" == martin f krafft writes:
martin> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-03-12 10:16
+0100]:
>> All candidates: how will you reconcile that with the fact that the DPL
>> currently only has a limited vision of what funds are available, and how
>> they evolved over time?
> "martin" == martin f krafft writes:
martin> What is your perception of fundraising in and around Debian?
I think fundraisers can be great, for specific non-recurring tasks, or
as an additional source of funding for significantly larger ones, which
would be very hard to fund otherwise.
> "Stefano" == Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
Since Stefano asked the other candidates to answer too, my answers are
below:
Stefano> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 06:44:45PM +, Neil McGovern wrote:
>> * Outreach. Every team complains (quite rightly!) about the lack of
>> people to do t
>>>>> "Stefano" == Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
Stefano> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:31:03AM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote:
>> So, the only way I could see the drop of SC §5 as a worthwhile goal,
>> is if we also removed non-free (and possibly co
> "martin" == martin f krafft writes:
martin> Dear candidates,
martin> What is your perception of DebConf and its organisation?
martin> If any, what changes would you like to implement?
Unfortunately, I have no insight into how the DebConf organisation
works. My perception, from
> "martin" == martin f krafft writes:
martin> Have you considered working with a "DPL team" and if so, why have
martin> you decided against including such plans in your platform?
Working with a DPL team has been at the back of my mind since zack's DPL
helpers initiative. However, thi
> "Stefano" == Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
Stefano> do you think the time is ripe for dropping section §5 of the Debian
Stefano> Social Contract [1], namely "Works that do not meet our free
software
Stefano> standards" or should we wait more?
[...]
Stefano> - Dropping SC §5
I hereby nominate myself for the forthcoming DPL election.
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> "Aigars" == Aigars Mahinovs writes:
Aigars> If you do not liek where Ian is coming from with his point of view -
Aigars> do not argue with him. Argue with other people. Or, better yet,
argue
Aigars> with the facts.
This sounds awfully similar to "Don't feed the trolls", and we
> "Josh" == Josh Triplett writes:
Josh> For the sake of clarity, I'd like to point out that I didn't start
this
Josh> thread solely because of a single IRC log, but rather because of a
Josh> pattern of behavior over the last year that shows no signs of
Josh> changing.
Regard
Charles Plessy writes:
> Here is the text:
>
> ---
>
> The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General
> Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless of the outcome of
> the vote.
>
Luca Falavigna writes:
> I would like to propose the following amendment proposal,
> and I hereby call for seconds.
>
> ** Begin Alternative Proposal **
>
> 0. Rationale
>
> Debian has decided (via the Technical Committee) to change its
> default init system for the next release. The Techni
Luca Falavigna writes:
> I'd like to draft an alternative proposal to the GR.
> Would anybody consider it a nice addition to the proposals we
> currently have, and eventually second it if I asked for it?
I'd second this proposal.
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Raphael Hertzog writes:
> assume that a package maintainer is active but is doing a bad job
> regarding our standards (things like ignoring problems in stable, breaking
> backwards compatibility for no good reason, not packaging new upstream
> versions in unstable, etc) and is not really cooperat
Due to unexpected events, my plans and life got turned upside down (for
the better) in the past few days, and because of that, I have to scale
down a number of things. Unfortunately, running for DPL is one such
thing. However unlikely my winning would be, it would be dishonest from
me to continue r
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gregor herrmann writes:
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:02:08 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
>> On 25/03/13 at 16:22 +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> > Are we strict enough with our existing contributors? When we're trying
>> > to work together as best we can to make the Universal Operating System
>> > h
Charles Plessy writes:
> If this has not changed, is that something that the DPL candidates would
> like to tackle ? (Bonus question to the DPL candidates: are you subscribed
> to debian-private ?)
Private is like it always was (I am subscribed, and have been for every
day of my DDship). Fortun
Lucas Nussbaum writes:
> (I still hadn't replied to that question -- I'll do that by following-up
> on Moray's reply since I agree with most of it)
...and I'll take the easiest route, and follow up on Lucas' mail, since
I mostly agree with both of them. Sorry!
> On 12/03/13 at 17:11 +0300, Mora
Gunnar Wolf writes:
> Gergely Nagy dijo [Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 01:32:32PM +0100]:
>> Debian is also not impressively different, so to say. We have a distinct
>> culture, we have great technical solutions, but those are hardly enough
>> to impress someone who just casually lo
Gunnar Wolf writes:
> However, this topic does raise a question: Knowledge transfer. I might
> be arguing on something marginally related to the vote at hand, but
> anyway, when delegations shift (be it due to burnout, retirement,
> rotation or whatever), we should make it as easy as possible to
Thomas Goirand writes:
> On 03/26/2013 09:28 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
>> I see
>> Zack's DPL helpers initiative as a step in this direction, and I'd like
>> to take it a little further.
>
> How? Make it formal? Have new "official" positions? Or just
Mònica Ramírez Arceda writes:
> I would like to know your opinion about this graph (thanks Francesca!):
> http://blog.zouish.org/posts/dw/
>
> Note that I'm not asking for a way to recruit women (there are already
> efforts on that). I would like to know if you think that this lack of
> women af
Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
> Folklore goes that performing distribution-wide changes in Debian is
> hard and time-consuming, due to a couple of reasons: (1) the time needed
> to make a decision that affects the whole archive (this is related to
> our flat structure, which has many benefits, but s
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer writes:
> There are third party vendors (read: propietary) that support the
> installation
> of their software in Debian, but mostly because selfish reasons: they need to
> be present everywhere for their business model to work. A clear example of
> this is
Thomas Goirand writes:
> One of the key role of the DPL is to delegate.
>
> What are your intention in this regard? Do you think that the current
> teams and roles are well filled? Or would you like to change some of the
> people currently holding a position? Why (not) changing anything?
I belie
Steve McIntyre writes:
> Are we strict enough with our existing contributors? When we're trying
> to work together as best we can to make the Universal Operating System
> happen, what could/should we do with contributors who hinder our work?
I do not believe we're strict enough, not in general.
Bart Martens writes:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:27:58AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> You can use flashplugin-nonfree to download a piece of software that has
>> a nonfree license, which is then installed on your system; the result is
>> that you now have a system which has some non-DFSG-fre
Lucas Nussbaum writes:
> On 19/03/13 at 21:43 +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>> * Lucas Nussbaum [2013-03-19 07:44:32 CET]:
>> > But it's also about how we see our project. I would like Debian to be
>> > a very welcoming project, and I hate the fact that it's harder for some
>> > groups to get inv
Serafeim Zanikolas writes:
> In the words of Lars [*]:
>
> We're not very good at dealing with situations where a few individuals
> are dominating the discussion by being loud, insistent, and unwilling to
> budge
> or to give any credence to opposing views. I don't know what to do ab
Jérémy Bobbio writes:
> Dear candidates, do you think it would be wise to advertise `testing` as
> a usable distribution to our users given that state of affairs? Given
> that our security support for stable is already not as best as it could
> be, do you think we should encourage volunteers to b
Hi!
Mario Lang writes:
> I'd like to know your opinion on this. Are people with disabilities
> something that we want to support, or is it just luck if "they" get a
> working system. As a Free Software community, should we make sure that
> the digital divide is not going to increase, or is acc
Charles Plessy writes:
> In Debian, we stay member until we die or quit (or very exceptionally, are
> expelled). The consequence is that it is hard to evaluate how much active
> members we have. It may also create more crispations about giving membership.
>
> We often discussed about how to bec
Gergely Nagy writes:
> Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
>
>> Some of the longest -devel thread in recent years have been about
>> Debian's (default) init system: SysV, SystemD, Upstart, OpenRC, etc.
>> Despite folklore, I don't think those thread have been (entirel
Hello,
Raphael Hertzog writes:
> The Debian ecosystem includes many economical actors, be it companies
> or individuals, but we tend to hide those aspects as if they didn't
> exist.
Well, we have the debian-companies[1] list, we also have a partners
page[2], and the debian-sponsors-discuss[3] l
Paul Tagliamonte writes:
> I'd ask the DPL candidates to speak a bit about how they intend to
> represent Debian externally -- both in terms out downstream outreach, as
> well as upstream (or even side-stream) relations.
Like I expressed earlier, elsewhere, I believe that representing Debian
is
anarcat writes:
> You all have an impressive technical curriculum. Your deeds in Debian
> speak for themselves. However, the role of a project leader is unusually
> non-technical. In fact, you will have to abandon significant technical
> tasks to tend to more "administrative" or "leadership" task
Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
> Some of the longest -devel thread in recent years have been about
> Debian's (default) init system: SysV, SystemD, Upstart, OpenRC, etc.
> Despite folklore, I don't think those thread have been (entirely)
> trollish, they all hint at a concrete problem:
(For the reco
Jonathan Nieder writes:
> Gergely Nagy wrote:
>> Wouter Verhelst writes:
>>>> Arno Töll writes:
>
>>>>> In fact, even the wiki says "Becoming a Debian Developer: You should be
>>>>> a Debian Maintainer for six months before applying t
Wouter Verhelst writes:
> On 17-03-13 02:02, Gergely Nagy wrote:
>> Arno Töll writes:
>>> In fact, even the wiki says "Becoming a Debian Developer: You should be
>>> a Debian Maintainer for six months before applying to the Debian New
>>> Member Proce
Paul Wise writes:
> Would becoming DPL increase the chance that you would work on any of
> these ideas?
>
> Would not becoming DPL increase the chance that you would work on any of
> these ideas?
Well, not becoming DPL means I'd have less time to spend on Debian
things than if elected, so, techn
are not DPL specific tasks.
If not elected, the time I can spend on these tasks will be much less,
as I will not be able to use work time for it. But nevertheless, I'll do
my best to further the goals I see as important.
> Gergely Nagy, was not being elected in 2012 de-motivating?
Nope,
Arno Töll writes:
> On 17.03.2013 00:01, Gergely Nagy wrote:
>> We have close to two hundred entries in the debian-maintainers-keyring,
>> that's a respectable number, which reaffirms my recentish change of
>> heart, that the DM status is a good thing, and while it does
Paul Tagliamonte writes:
> What work will you be doing to continue Zach's efforts to negotiate with
> the FSF over Debian's status as a Free Software Distribution?
I do not plan to be on the front line, but it is an important effort
that must be continued. If elected, I'll make sure that the app
Lucas Nussbaum writes:
> On 13/03/13 at 00:57 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>> 3/ Buy advertising space on various media to recruit new contributors and
>> lead them into our (improved) mentoring infrastructure.
>
> I think that we have other, better ways, to improve the project's
> visibility th
Raphael Hertzog writes:
> Since both of you want examples of possible uses of money, here you have
> some that I quickly came up with:
>
> 1/ Grant some amount of money to the release team to offer as bounties on
> release blocker issues that are not going forward.
While such one-off bounties wo
Raphael Hertzog writes:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Moray Allan wrote:
>> If there was general support then we could look at organising a
>> funded program, but I would need a lot of persuasion before wanting
>> to get into the question of Debian picking specific individuals to
>> pay for their work w
Serafeim Zanikolas writes:
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:21:05AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote [edited]:
>> But asking students to contribute to Debian during university projects is
>> quite
>> difficult (I have thought about it numerous times, but never found a
>> good-enough idea). it would be i
Hi!
Instead of answering Timo's question directly, I'll answer to Gunnar
instead, in the hopes that I can answer both of them in a satisfactory
manner.
Gunnar Wolf writes:
> Timo Juhani Lindfors dijo [Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 05:34:58PM +0200]:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to have each DPL candidate brie
Lars Wirzenius writes:
> Gegerly, Moray, and Lucas:
>
> We're currently in the middle of a freeze for the next release. We've
> been in this release since June 30. That's over eight months. That's a
> long time, even for a project the size of Debian. Releasing when we're
> ready is all well and g
MJ Ray writes:
> How much time do you think voters should spend reading these discussions?
Enough time to make an informed decision - or throw a dice, whichever
they prefer. Noone's required to read all (or any) of -vote@, it is
entirely up to them how much time they want to spend on it.
Myself
Raphael Hertzog writes:
> Debian's infrastructure and processes have grown organically over the
> years, with all the strengths and weaknesses that it implies. Sometimes
> it's a good idea to step back and look whether some of those need
> to be amended/replaced/dropped/etc.
>
> Based on your own
Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
> Due to time and travel demands, there are blockers in being DPLs. Most
> of them are work related. Within that category of blockers, some could
> be solved by a salary but many (according to your judgement) could not.
> If we agree on this, it means that we are losing
Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 01:31:08PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> For example, I would question whether one could do the role of DPL with a
>> conventional full-time job in IT, at least if you want to keep any other
>> hobbies outside of those two jobs. The amount of
Neil McGovern writes:
> Could you provide a couple of sentences (no more) for the below?
>
> * How do you feel about having won the election?
Sad, ready, happy and humbled. Sad, because only one of us could
win. Happy, because of the trust the voters showed towards me,
humbled for the same reaso
Russ Allbery writes:
> Moray Allan writes:
>
>> However, the DPL role for a single year is already a big commitment,
>> taking a lot of energy and time (typically including a lot of the time
>> that person previously spent in other areas of Debian). Already many
>> people who would perform the
Gunnar Wolf writes:
> One of the difficulties I perceive we have seen over the years is the
> time it takes to transfer the know-how and work rhythm from an
> outgoing DPL to an incoming one. Several of our DPLs have repeated
> their term. In the past, when I was a new DD, there was this strange
Hi!
Arno Töll writes:
> Sorry to tell, but you're all compared to zack leaving back some by-now
> established patterns as a DPL. So I wonder, will you step back from
> maintainer/team activities during your term?
Most likely, yes. While the packages I maintain are fairly quiet and
take little t
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Martin Zobel-Helas writes:
> in the past Debian had some generous donors, who donated a huge amounts
> of high quality hardware on regual basis to the Debian project. For some
> reasons (not to be discussed here) those sources dont exist any more.
One idea - perhaps a naive one, as I do not know
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Martin Zobel-Helas writes:
> in the past i heared several ideas about a Debian Project Leader board
> similar to the SPI board.
>
> So lets imagine the project would have to vote for several members of
> this sort of board, with every member bei
Martin Zobel-Helas writes:
> Why do you think you are a good candidate for the next DPL term?
That's a good question, one that I'm not sure I can provide a useful
answer for. Not because I have doubts (I don't), but because why *I*
think I am a good candidate has little relevance, and is fairly
Hi!
Sune Vuorela writes:
> So, over the last years I have seen a Debian where it among the people
> is much more important to avoid to fail than trying to do awesome
> stuff.
While I subscribe to the 'avoid failure whenever you can' school of
thought, I do not wish to hold on to that thought at
Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx writes:
> Please make sure that nominations are sent to (or cc:'d to)
> debian-vote, and are cryptographically signed.
*clears throat*
I hereby nominate myself as a prospective DPL.
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Charles Plessy writes:
> In contrast with what we require for the software we distribute, we are
> forbidding to use some of our logos for profit. While there are some clear
> differences between software and carriers of visual identity, I feel that
> there
> is a strong mismatch between what w
"Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes:
> What is your vision about how many different software pieces can be
> supported by Debian as a project for each part of the software stack,
> would it be architectures, kernels, init systems, high-level package
> managers, desktop environments or something else?
I
Raphael Hertzog writes:
> there's a discussion going on on debian-project about entering an
> agreement with DuckDuckGo to get some sort of affiliate commission from
> the money that DuckDuckGo would earn from traffic tagged as coming
> from Debian.
>
> 1/ To Wouter and Gergely: this discussion t
Raphael Hertzog writes:
> you might have read that Stefano is trying to organize
> discussions/collaboration between companies that have a strategic interest
> in Debian:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-companies/
>
> Wouter and Gergely, what do you think of this project ? Would you continue
> t
Thomas Goirand writes:
> "search[ing] for talent and passion" is a great goal, but just writing
> "The key to my goal is communication" isn't enough for me. So, how will
> you do?
I have a couple of ideas, including - but not limited to:
* As mentioned in a different thread, I'd love to get a
Since my thoughts have been pretty much summed up far better than I
could, I'd like to refer to Stefano's answers, as - apart from the
experience bits, as I obviously have no DPL experience - are very much
like my own would have been.
Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:16:42
Hi!
"Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes:
> Do you think Debian project has enough manpower to differ (if needed)
> with other major derivatives and major non-derivatives in the important
> non-Debian-specific software choices?
Probably, yes. But being different just for the sake of it is not
something
Paul Wise writes:
> Recent threads have made me concerned about how well informed some of
> our current DPL nominees are about what is going on within Debian.
FWIW, if I say something stupid, or misinformed, please publicly hit me
with a cluebat. I'm very interested in my mistakes being pointed
Raphael Geissert writes:
> Reading zack's platform, it makes me wonder why would you (Gergely and
> Wouter) actually need to be elected as a DPL to do what you mention on your
> platforms.
Because while Zack's regin as DPL for the past two years have been very
successful, and there would be a
Hi!
Gerfried Fuchs writes:
> it happens every now and then, people assume bad faith in mails from
> others and call their action silly and active tries to sabotage, and
> there are also people who fight for their right to behave like assholes
> and belittle scathingly against people that wish f
Hi!
Thomas Goirand writes:
> If you see projects like Openstack or oVirt (sorry for the examples
> taken from my area of expertise...), they have elections every 6 months
> for project leaders in this or that area of the project.
>
> In Debian, we just elect a DPL, and then we hope that he appoi
Ansgar Burchardt writes:
> while reading algernon's platform I stumbled over the two sentences
> "More packages, more packagers? A solved problem" and "Not raw,
> packaging manpower - with hundreds of people, we have that covered".
> How do you think about the current state of reviewing uploads
Kurt Roeckx writes:
> As your platfrom indicates, you have disappeared from the Debian
> project before. Some DPLs started with alot of energy, but somewhat
> faded during their term and then disappeared. Do you think there
> is a chance of this happening to you?
No, there is no chance of that
Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx writes:
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> Please make sure that nominations are sent to (or cc:'d to)
> debian-vote, and are cryptographically signed.
Lets make this more interesting than the past election has been!
I hereby nominate myself as a prospective DPL. This time, there is
> What Muppet character do you see yourself as, and why?
This is a question Yamm wants to answer (even though I took steps to
keep it away from this years election, it is still reading the lists
while I don't watch), and it is torturing me so much, I have to allow
this mail. Sorry about that.
THA
ssed my
wish to not run.
So, once again, to make it clear: I, Gergely Nagy, in perfect mental
health, express my own wish, which was not forced upon me, but is my
own, that I do not want to participate in the Debian Project Leader
elections in 2005.
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(Being a fun candidate has the advantage of being able to ignore any
said and unsaid rules or agreements and whatnot, so I can answer every
mail I want to >;)
> I have seen lots of discussions about CDD and splitting up Debian
> into a core and more-or-less independent topic specific sections rece
(Being a fun candidate has the advantage of being able to ignore any
said and unsaid rules or agreements and whatnot, so I can answer every
mail I want to >;)
> I have seen lots of discussions about CDD and splitting up Debian
> into a core and more-or-less independent topic specific sections rece
> Do you think it's possible for Debian to have a leader anymore?
Yes, definitely.
> Recent "leaders" have all been coordinator type people. And while
> that's fine... they've all been nice, intelligent, thoughtful people
> who are of course very dedicated to the project... none of them seems
>
> Do you think it's possible for Debian to have a leader anymore?
Yes, definitely.
> Recent "leaders" have all been coordinator type people. And while
> that's fine... they've all been nice, intelligent, thoughtful people
> who are of course very dedicated to the project... none of them seems
>
> How about you keep it to summaries of mailing list threads and IRC
> conversations or similar? Ideally something self-centered, too, as a
> summary of another candidate's position will likely result in the other
> candidate feeling that they've been (deliberately?) misrepresented,
> which would j
> How about you keep it to summaries of mailing list threads and IRC
> conversations or similar? Ideally something self-centered, too, as a
> summary of another candidate's position will likely result in the other
> candidate feeling that they've been (deliberately?) misrepresented,
> which would j
Hi!
I resist to allow my tamagotchi to dress in Branden and Martin skins,
and answer their questions too... I donot know how longer I can keep him
from doing that, though...
> I have a tamagotchi too! He's called Foo (I have a limited imagination) Why
> is
> your tamagotchi more suited to runni
Hi!
I resist to allow my tamagotchi to dress in Branden and Martin skins,
and answer their questions too... I donot know how longer I can keep him
from doing that, though...
> I have a tamagotchi too! He's called Foo (I have a limited imagination) Why is
> your tamagotchi more suited to running
> A. What do you think is the greatest challenge facing Debian in the
> coming year? What would you do as Project Leader to try and meet this
> challenge?
We have quite a few challenges coming ahead. There is this SCO case: we
shouldn't laugh too hard at them, because that makes us look bad.
Th
> A. What do you think is the greatest challenge facing Debian in the
> coming year? What would you do as Project Leader to try and meet this
> challenge?
We have quite a few challenges coming ahead. There is this SCO case: we
shouldn't laugh too hard at them, because that makes us look bad.
Th
> > > As a female hacker/geek/DD I find myself more and more concerned about
> > > the gender ratio in the Debian Developer/User comunity. How can we say
> > > make a "Universal" OS when it's do scarcely related to half the
> > > population of the world... I think we all agree we want to see more
>
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