On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 06:39:53PM +, Stefano Rivera wrote:
>...
> It's only a couple of months before the conference that contracts have
> to be finalized, flights booked, and money paid. June 8 was picked as a
> latest possible date for that decision.
>...
The standard procedure for putting
Hi Steve (2020.06.03_19:19:16_+)
> > Would it be totally unrealistic, and unsafe to bring a large number of
> > people together? Probably, yes. But if the local authorities are saying
> > you can, it's worth considering.
>
> This is the part that I categorically disagree with. Even assuming b
Hi Stefano,
I appreciate you taking the time to lay out the thought process. Even
though this is indeed now academic, since there is no decision we will
actually be disputing with a GR, I want to reply to one particular subpoint
to make it clear exactly where I'm coming from.
On Wed, Jun 03, 202
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On 02/06/2020 3:55, martin f krafft
wrote:
Regarding the following, written by "Scott
Kitterman" on 2020-06-01 at 20:45 Uhr -0400:
It's almost like this discussion
Hi Steve (2020.06.02_21:58:05_+)
> The fact that the organizing team's response to the pandemic was anything
> other than a categorical decision not to hold a conference that would put
> people on planes and increase the overall risk of the community of disease
> transmission - and was instead
On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 12:44:23AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:12:21 AM EDT Bdale Garbee wrote:
> > Scott Kitterman writes:
> > > It's almost like this discussion about a GR was a premature waste of
> > > everyone's time.
> > It's also possible that discussion abou
Scott Kitterman writes:
> What I would have hoped is that project members would trust the people that
> they have (indirectly) delegated the responsibility to run Debconf to to do a
> good job and only once there is something that's enough of a problem to
> require a project wide decision to c
Scott Kitterman writes:
> Sure, but doing business by threat of GR is a horrible way to run things.
I find this so strange.
To me, this is like saying that it's horrible to have the executive branch
of a government have to do business under threat of the legislature
passing laws. That's litera
On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:12:21 AM EDT Bdale Garbee wrote:
> Scott Kitterman writes:
> > It's almost like this discussion about a GR was a premature waste of
> > everyone's time.
>
> It's also possible that discussion about a possible GR influenced the
> ultimate decision in a useful way.
>
>
Scott Kitterman writes:
> It's almost like this discussion about a GR was a premature waste of
> everyone's time.
It's also possible that discussion about a possible GR influenced the
ultimate decision in a useful way.
[shrug]
Bdale
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Regarding the following, written by "Scott Kitterman" on 2020-06-01 at 20:45
Uhr -0400:
It's almost like this discussion about a GR was a premature waste of
everyone's time.
You should get this framed and sent to a couple of developers. ;)
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On Monday, June 1, 2020 6:12:30 PM EDT Ivo De Decker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 5/22/20 2:43 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 02:40:55PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> >> This is a draft for a GR I would like to propose.
> >>
> >> Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Co
Hi,
On 5/22/20 2:43 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 02:40:55PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
This is a draft for a GR I would like to propose.
Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Conference DebConf20
[...]
I'd second that, thanks. However, I would prefer if the
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 9:41 PM Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
>
> This is a draft for a GR I would like to propose.
>
> Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Conference DebConf20
> --
>
> ### Whereas
>
> 1. the World Health organization (WHO) declared COVID-19 as a global
>pandemi
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On 2020/05/22 20:08, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> (and besides, the India team has already won for next year). If
> they get
Correction: I mean of course, Kosovo.
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Hi zobel
On 2020/05/22 14:40, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> This is a draft for a GR I would like to propose.
I can't block you from doing a GR (and I certainly wouldn't want to!),
but I'd like you to consider the variables and consequences one las
Hello Martin,
Martin Zobel-Helas dijo [Fri, May 22, 2020 at 02:40:55PM +0200]:
> This is a draft for a GR I would like to propose.
>
> Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Conference DebConf20
As a member of the DebConf Committee, as a very-long-time organizer of
DebConf, and just as y
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 18:08, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <
p...@debian.org> wrote:
> In my opinion, the best solution would be postpone DC20 in Israel to 2021.
> And push Kosovo to 2022 and India to 2023.
>
I believe this choice should be on the table when DC20 team takes the
decision on the
Hi,
In my opinion, the best solution would be postpone DC20 in Israel to 2021.
And push Kosovo to 2022 and India to 2023.
Best regards,
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Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
Curitiba - Brasil
Debian Developer
Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres
Site: http://www.phls.
Hi Sam (2020.05.22_14:51:42_+)
> The interesting thing is what the WHO says about travel and minimizing
> international travel.
FWIW:
https://www.who.int/publications-detail/key-planning-recommendations-for-mass-gatherings-in-the-context-of-the-current-covid-19-outbreak
A couple of months old
Why we need this GR?
Can't we just wait the DebConf team decided?
If they decide to have in-person conference, and you are not able (don't
want or can't) to go. Just don't do that.
Em 22/05/2020 09:40, Martin Zobel-Helas escreveu:
> This is a draft for a GR I would like to propose.
>
> Cancel
Hi.
I think there is a lack of precision in the text of your GR that I find
highly problematic.
I suspect it will be fairly easy for you to correct this and possibly
even gain my support, so I'd ask you to look for ways to do so.
You say that the WHO has declared Covid-19 to be a pandemic, and ha
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 07:29:39AM -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> They have until the GR is ready for a vote to do the right thing.
Then why make a GR to override the decision?
Everyone is already able to vote with their legs: no one of us can force
another to come. So if you're not going to go, w
They have until the GR is ready for a vote to do the right thing.
Bdale
On May 22, 2020 7:23:08 AM MDT, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
>On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 02:40:55PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
>> This is a draft for a GR I would like to propose.
>>
>> Cancel this year's in-person Debian Dev
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 02:40:55PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> This is a draft for a GR I would like to propose.
>
> Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Conference DebConf20
> --
As said in the DebConf website, the decision of holding DebConf20
in-person is yet to be mad
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 02:40:55PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> This is a draft for a GR I would like to propose.
>
> Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Conference DebConf20
[...]
I'd second that, thanks. However, I would prefer if the DebConf organizers
cancel themselves. (And
This is a draft for a GR I would like to propose.
Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Conference DebConf20
--
### Whereas
1. the World Health organization (WHO) declared COVID-19 as a global
pandemic [1] as of March 11th and has not yet lifted this.
2. the Debian Project ha
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