Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)

2009-04-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:29:22PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > I was thinking of setting up a FAQ. > > .oO( Why not a Debian package?, then you would gain BTS support, and > maybe people can help with software maintenance more

Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)

2009-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, The current devotee package is far too wedded to the Debian way of doing things to be useful as a package. It is far too inglexible, and things have ben h a r d c o d e d. I have a devotee-ng in a rewrite now, that is far more modular, and, critically, composable -- so t

Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)

2009-04-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 02:35:51PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Also, something on my wishlist (and the wishlist of others) for years, > has been a "poll system", which could be used during heated discussions > to get an idea of what the silent majority thinks. > Unfortunately, apparently the sec

Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)

2009-04-14 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 14/04/09 at 10:48 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:29:22PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > I was thinking of setting up a FAQ. > > .oO( Why not a Debian package?, then you would gain BTS support, and > maybe people can help with software maintenance more easily ... )

Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)

2009-04-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:29:22PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > I was thinking of setting up a FAQ. .oO( Why not a Debian package?, then you would gain BTS support, and maybe people can help with software maintenance more easily ... ) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ P

Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)

2009-04-13 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 01:23:56PM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Would it be possible to add a pointer to the frequently encountered > problems to the devotee error reply? This would most likely reduce the > burden on the secretary during the voting period and allow people to > solve the problems a

Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)

2009-04-13 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Would it be possible to add a pointer to the frequently encountered problems to the devotee error reply? This would most likely reduce the burden on the secretary during the voting period and allow people to solve the problems at their end faster. -- * Sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguish

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-13 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > > I wish you contacted me about this before so that we could find a > > solution to get your vote counted. > > Just a comment: if Luigi sent a valid vote during the correct time frame, and > it was rejected because of a software bug, shouldn't it

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-13 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:46:54AM +0200, Luigi Gangitano wrote: > > Il giorno 13/apr/09, alle ore 01:43, Kurt Roeckx ha scritto: >> I wish you contacted me about this before so that we could find a >> solution to get your vote counted. > > Thanks for your report. I did not contact you before, sinc

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-13 Thread Luigi Gangitano
Hi Kurt, Il giorno 13/apr/09, alle ore 01:43, Kurt Roeckx ha scritto: I wish you contacted me about this before so that we could find a solution to get your vote counted. Thanks for your report. I did not contact you before, since I oversaw the warning in the first vote report and dismissed

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-13 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Luigi Gangitano writes: > You're right. It was my fault not to check the correctness of my > ballot, but since I've always used this combination of MUA to send my > votes I have been easily distracted by the warning on unsafe directory > permissions. Devotee is actually a nice way to verify your

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-13 Thread Luigi Gangitano
Il giorno 13/apr/09, alle ore 06:59, Manoj Srivastava ha scritto: Frankly, if would seem that a DD ought o be able to deliver RFC compliant mails to vote.d.o. You're right. It was my fault not to check the correctness of my ballot, but since I've always used this combination of MUA to

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Apr 12 2009, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > On Sunday 12 April 2009 17:43:36 Kurt Roeckx wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 01:01:38AM +0200, Luigi Gangitano wrote: >> > Hi Kurt, >> > can you please report on issue in the voting software that prevented >> > some ballots to be processed? I sent

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Apr 12 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 01:43:36AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit : >> It seems that devotee does not properly handle it. Devotee follows the standards. That means RFC 2440 or RFC 3156. If you can point me to an RFC the said vote followed, I'll s

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-12 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 12 April 2009 17:43:36 Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 01:01:38AM +0200, Luigi Gangitano wrote: > > Hi Kurt, > > can you please report on issue in the voting software that prevented > > some ballots to be processed? I sent my vote twince on April 9 and April > > 11 and got th

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 01:43:36AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit : > It seems that devotee does not properly handle it. Hi all, at worse, there may be alternatives, like selectricity (.org), which was also made by a DD. Unfortunately, it is not packaged… Have a nice day, -- Charles -- To UNSU

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 01:01:38AM +0200, Luigi Gangitano wrote: > Hi Kurt, > can you please report on issue in the voting software that prevented > some ballots to be processed? I sent my vote twince on April 9 and April > 11 and got the following answer back: Hi Luigi, I wish you contacted m

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-12 Thread Luigi Gangitano
Hi Kurt, can you please report on issue in the voting software that prevented some ballots to be processed? I sent my vote twince on April 9 and April 11 and got the following answer back: This is an error report about your vote [record msg00392.raw] for the vote "Debian Project Lead

Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results

2009-04-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx - Debian Project Secretary
Hi, The winner of the election is Steve McIntyre. His new term will start on April 17th, 2009. The details of the results shall soon be available at: http://vote.debian.org/2009/vote_001 In the mean time the results are also available at: http://master.debian.org/~secretary/leader2009/results.t

Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-03-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > >> If someone can't set up a poll, I'll send another message asking for > >> DDs to privately mail me (or maybe me-too to -vote) if they find the > >> debates useful. > > http://doodle.com/nmpesn9t5fwv6ewe > > Having this run for 7 days now, we had 72 pa

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-09 Thread Brian May
MJ Ray wrote: > That treads on the singular "they" landmine. Also, it sounds like > it's the Debian Developer's validity in question. > > How about "Debian Developers may nominate themselves by sending a > signed email to debian-vote@lists.debian.org"? > How about: "To be valid, a Debian Devel

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 02:39:46PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: >l...@liw.fi wrote: > >>While I agree with Ben, perhaps we could retire this, the 12765th >>iteration of this discussion, in favor of having a discussion about >>platforms and some Q&A with the candidates? >Maybe this is a good time to a

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 02:39:46PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Maybe this is a good time to ask the candidates what is their position > wrt this PC bullshit. > So candidates, what do you think about this? [ Just assuming this was a serious question, otherwise shame on me for keeping this thread

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
l...@liw.fi wrote: >While I agree with Ben, perhaps we could retire this, the 12765th >iteration of this discussion, in favor of having a discussion about >platforms and some Q&A with the candidates? Maybe this is a good time to ask the candidates what is their position wrt this PC bullshit. So ca

Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-03-09 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>> If someone can't set up a poll, I'll send another message asking for >> DDs to privately mail me (or maybe me-too to -vote) if they find the >> debates useful. > http://doodle.com/nmpesn9t5fwv6ewe Having this run for 7 days now, we had 72 participants. The question asked was "Are the Debian D

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2009-03-09 kello 19:37 +1100, Ben Finney kirjoitti: > Matthew Johnson writes: > > > How about accepting that "he" is the gender-neutral pronoun in > > English? > > Because that's not true; “he” is a male-gender pronoun. While I agree with Ben, perhaps we could retire this, the 12765th iter

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-09 Thread Ben Finney
Matthew Johnson writes: > How about accepting that "he" is the gender-neutral pronoun in > English? Because that's not true; “he” is a male-gender pronoun. The pronoun “he” is sometimes awkwardly and explicitly defined for gender-neutral use in specific cases, but it's never the case that “he” i

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-09 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Sun Mar 08 23:40, MJ Ray wrote: > > How about "Shepherds Bush (Central line)"? > How about accepting that "he" is the gender-neutral pronoun in English? -- Matthew Johnson signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009

2009-03-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 01:19:27PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx - Debian Project Secretary wrote: > Hi, > > The nomination period has ended and we're now in the campaigning > period. We have 2 candidates: > > - Stefano Zacchiroli > - Steve McIntyre <93...@debian.org> > > The page at http://www.debian.o

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-08 Thread MJ Ray
Carsten Hey wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 10:53:17AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 02:18:03PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > "To be valid, a Debian Developers can send a signed email in which they > > > nominate themselves, to the debian-vote@lists.debian.org lis

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-07 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 10:53:17AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 02:18:03PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > "To be valid, a Debian Developers can send a signed email in which they > > nominate themselves, to the debian-vote@lists.debian.org lists" > > > this nicely avoid

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-07 Thread Carsten Hey
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 10:53:17AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 02:18:03PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > "To be valid, a Debian Developers can send a signed email in which they > > nominate themselves, to the debian-vote@lists.debian.org lists" > > "a Debian Developers

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 02:18:03PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > You mean I can nominate someone else? ;-P > (suggested phrasing: > "To be valid, a Debian Developers can send a signed email in which they > nominate themselves, to the debian-vote@lists.debian.org lists" > this nicely avoids gen

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-07 Thread Per Andersson
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 02:18:03PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:11:16PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: >> > On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:53:10AM +, Per Andersson wrote: >> > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Debian Pr

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 01:36:04PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 06:46:31PM +0100, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > >Hi, > > > >The nomination period for the DPL election is almost over. If you > >want to nominate yourself as canidate you need to send a signed > >mail to

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 02:18:03PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:11:16PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:53:10AM +, Per Andersson wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Debian Project Secretary > > > wrote: > > > > To be valid, a Debi

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 06:46:31PM +0100, Debian Project Secretary wrote: >Hi, > >The nomination period for the DPL election is almost over. If you >want to nominate yourself as canidate you need to send a signed >mail to the debian-vote@lists.debian.org list. I hereby nominate myself as a candid

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:11:16PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:53:10AM +, Per Andersson wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Debian Project Secretary > > wrote: > > > To be valid, a Debian Developer needs to send a signed email in > > > which he nominates himse

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:53:10AM +, Per Andersson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Debian Project Secretary > wrote: > > To be valid, a Debian Developer needs to send a signed email in > > which he nominates himself to the debian-vote@lists.debian.org > > list. > > Can't women nomin

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:53:10AM +, Per Andersson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Debian Project Secretary > wrote: > > To be valid, a Debian Developer needs to send a signed email in > > which he nominates himself to the debian-vote@lists.debian.org > > list. > Can't women nominat

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009: Final call for nominations.

2009-03-06 Thread Per Andersson
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > To be valid, a Debian Developer needs to send a signed email in > which he nominates himself to the debian-vote@lists.debian.org > list. Can't women nominate themselves? Best regards, Per -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vot

Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-03-02 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> Perhaps someone could set up a poll for DDs to indicate whether they > find the debates useful or not? [I think Jeroen was doing this last?] > If someone can't set up a poll, I'll send another message asking for > DDs to privately mail me (or maybe me-too to -vote) if they find the > debates use

Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-03-01 Thread MJ Ray
Steve Langasek wrote: [...] > I'd like to raise the question of whether these IRC debates are really > something we should have. I know Don and the panelists put a lot of time > and effort into making the debates happen, which is part of why I ask the > question: is it really worth all this effo

Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-03-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 01:57:24PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: >Maybe folks decide who they would like before the voting starts which >would avoid the need for anything like an IRC chat or a ML discussion. >Would it useful to get a sense of how DD's de

Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 09:50:24PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:10:38AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > > > | Period | Start| End| > > > |+

Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-02-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > I'd like to raise the question of whether these IRC debates are > really something we should have. I know Don and the panelists put a > lot of time and effort into making the debates happen, which is part > of why I ask the question: is it really worth a

Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-02-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:10:38AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > > | Period | Start| End| > > |+--+| > > | Nomination | Sunday, Marc

Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-02-27 Thread MJ Ray
Don Armstrong wrote: > People who'd like to help run the debate and/or collect questions can > also volunteer with a message to -vote. I'd like to do either, as previous years. Regards, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/Mailin

Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-02-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:10:38AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > 1.618: Yes, for some reason I've adopted irrational footnote > numbering. Don't ask why.[2.718] Actually, no. As long as you are bound to write them in finite space using decimal notation, your footnotes still look like terribly rat

DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-02-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > | Period | Start| End| > |+--+| > | Nomination | Sunday, March 1st, 2009 | Saterday, March 7th, 2009 | > | Campaign | Sunday, Ma

Debian Project Leader Election 2009

2009-02-21 Thread Debian Project Secretary
Hi, The post of Project Leader will become available on April the 17th, 2009. So we will be holding an election for a Project Leader. The planned timeline looks like: | Period | Start| End| |+--+