Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 28 octobre 2008 à 20:38 +0100, Peter Palfrader a écrit : > So either we, the project, a) work with them and try to convince them of > the merits of alternate proposals, or b) we could force a system they > aren't convinced of upon them using a GR - probably not something that > will work v

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Charles Plessy wrote: > This completely ignores that now there are other proposals, like the ones of > Lars and Raphaël, and suggest that the only path we want to explore it the one > drafed by Joerg. Well. Joerg and Christoph (and maybe James*) are the delegated DAMs under

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:21:57AM +0100, Peter Palfrader a écrit : > > I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, > so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. > > The text I'm thinking about is currently this: > > | The Debian Project recognizes th

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 01:12:11PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > > > > | We realize that the proposal posted to the debian-devel-announce > > > | mailinglist is not yet finalized and may not have the support of a large > > > | part of our community.

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > > | We realize that the proposal posted to the debian-devel-announce > > | mailinglist is not yet finalized and may not have the support of a large > > | part of our community. We invite the DAM to further develop his ideas > > | in close coordinatio

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:21:57AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > Hi, > > I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, > so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. Thank you for proposing this option. I really like it's constructive tone. > > Th

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
I have a problem with this part: > | We invite the DAM to further develop his ideas > | in close coordination with other members of the project, and to present > | a new and improved proposal on the project's mailinglists in the future, > | at least two weeks prior to any planned implementation.

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:21:57AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > Hi, > > I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, > so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. > > The text I'm thinking about is currently this: > > | The Debian Project recognizes

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Tuesday 28 October 2008 09:21, Peter Palfrader wrote: > I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, > so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. Good call. > The text I'm thinking about is currently this: [..] > This is not a call for seconds

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.10.28.0921 +0100]: > | We thank Joerg Jaspert for exploring ideas on how to involve > | contributors more closely with the project so that they can get both > | recognition and the necessary tools to do their work. The problem I have with this

Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi, I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. The text I'm thinking about is currently this: | The Debian Project recognizes that many contributors to the project are | not working withing established fram