Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi, I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. The text I'm thinking about is currently this: | The Debian Project recognizes that many contributors to the project are | not working withing established

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.10.28.0921 +0100]: | We thank Joerg Jaspert for exploring ideas on how to involve | contributors more closely with the project so that they can get both | recognition and the necessary tools to do their work. The problem I have with this is

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Tuesday 28 October 2008 09:21, Peter Palfrader wrote: I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. Good call. The text I'm thinking about is currently this: [..] This is not a call for seconds

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
I have a problem with this part: | We invite the DAM to further develop his ideas | in close coordination with other members of the project, and to present | a new and improved proposal on the project's mailinglists in the future, | at least two weeks prior to any planned implementation.

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:21:57AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: Hi, I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. Thank you for proposing this option. I really like it's constructive tone. The

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 01:12:11PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: | We realize that the proposal posted to the debian-devel-announce | mailinglist is not yet finalized and may not have the support of a large | part of our community. We

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:21:57AM +0100, Peter Palfrader a écrit : I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. The text I'm thinking about is currently this: | The Debian Project recognizes that

Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)

2008-10-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 28 octobre 2008 à 20:38 +0100, Peter Palfrader a écrit : So either we, the project, a) work with them and try to convince them of the merits of alternate proposals, or b) we could force a system they aren't convinced of upon them using a GR - probably not something that will work very