On Sun, 2021-04-04 at 16:37 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 12:18 +0200, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
>
> > > People without voting rights repeatedly tried to lobby or push for a
> > > certain agenda on this list.
>
Le 6 avril 2021 12:50:59 GMT+02:00, Ulrike Uhlig a écrit :
>Hi peb,
>
>I think it's time to stop this thread here and now.
>
>If people want to discuss factually, and empathically if it's helpful
>for the project to make certain lists read-only for non Debian members,
>I think that's a valuable
Hi peb,
I think it's time to stop this thread here and now.
If people want to discuss factually, and empathically if it's helpful
for the project to make certain lists read-only for non Debian members,
I think that's a valuable discussion to have, but not here (better on
-private or on -proje
Le lundi 05 avril 2021 à 13:19:49-0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> > Even though it's hard and can be tiresome to many of us (and maybe
> > drives some away), as long as possible, I'd like the majority of our
> > lists to stay open to all people willing to express something.
>
> > Blocking potenti
People are free to express their opinion. That does not mean the Debian
Project is obligated to provide a platform for those opinions on the
debian-vote mailing list, which exists to facilitate discussions among
voting members of the Debian Project regarding matters that will be voted
on.
Non
On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 03:03:48PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le dimanche 04 avril 2021 à 16:37:15-0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> > On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 12:18 +0200, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> > > > People without voting
Le dimanche 04 avril 2021 à 16:37:15-0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 12:18 +0200, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
>
> > > People without voting rights repeatedly tried to lobby or push for a
> > > certain agenda on this
On 4/4/21 7:37 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Non-voting posters to debian-vote are almost exclusively outside agitators
> and there's no reason subscribing to debian-vote should mean receiving their
> bullshit in our mailboxes.
i don't disagree with any of the above, but in order to try to lend a
b
On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 12:18 +0200, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> > People without voting rights repeatedly tried to lobby or push for a
> > certain agenda on this list.
> Welcome to Debian.
> People are free to express their opinion, even
On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 12:18 +0200, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
>
> People without voting rights repeatedly tried to lobby or push for a
> certain agenda on this list.
Welcome to Debian.
People are free to express their opinion, even if they are not owning
an @debian.org email address. And that is actua
Le mercredi 31 mars 2021 à 06:48:45+, Ivan Shmakov a écrit :
> > On 2021-03-28 20:23:38 +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> > Le dimanche 28 mars 2021 à 15:35:42+, Ivan Shmakov a écrit :
>
> In my previous letter, I’ve presented my general concerns about
> the ‘open le
> On 2021-03-28 20:23:38 +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le dimanche 28 mars 2021 à 15:35:42+, Ivan Shmakov a écrit :
In my previous letter, I’ve presented my general concerns about
the ‘open letter’ that Choice 1 seeks to ratify; irrespective
(more or less
Hi,
On 3/30/21 16:43, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
Le mardi 30 mars 2021 à 12:38:36+0200, Zlatan Todoric a écrit :
Hi,
On 3/30/21 12:18, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
Hello,
On 29.03.21 20:37, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Ulrike Uhlig (2021-03-29 10:58:13)
Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you?
Le mardi 30 mars 2021 à 12:38:36+0200, Zlatan Todoric a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On 3/30/21 12:18, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On 29.03.21 20:37, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > Quoting Ulrike Uhlig (2021-03-29 10:58:13)
> > > > Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you? I cannot find your name i
On 3/30/21 6:18 AM, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
>
> People without voting rights repeatedly tried to lobby or push for a
> certain agenda on this list. I'm tired of that and I think we'll all be
> happier when this GR is over.
>
Not all contributors have voting rights but they do have the right to be
Le mardi 30 mars 2021 à 05:10:59-0700, Felix Lechner a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:46 AM Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> >
> > I agree that ideas should be free. But I disagree if your point is that
> > their expression should always be free.
>
> Wow, who would have thought? Totali
On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 08:43 -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
> On 2021-03-30 8:10 a.m., Felix Lechner wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:46 AM Pierre-Elliott Bécue
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree that ideas should be free. But I disagree if your point
> > > is that
> > > their exp
On 2021-03-30 8:10 a.m., Felix Lechner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:46 AM Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>>
>> I agree that ideas should be free. But I disagree if your point is that
>> their expression should always be free.
>
> Wow, who would have thought? Totalitarianism returned.
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:46 AM Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>
> I agree that ideas should be free. But I disagree if your point is that
> their expression should always be free.
Wow, who would have thought? Totalitarianism returned. Welcome to 1984! [1]
Please also see "Thought Police". [2]
Le lundi 29 mars 2021 à 07:26:24-0700, Felix Lechner a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 11:24 AM Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> >
> > Diversity is not tolerating dangerous ideas and the persons defending
> > these.
>
> Ideas should always be free. That's how I understand diversity.
Hi F
Hi,
On 3/30/21 12:18, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
Hello,
On 29.03.21 20:37, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Ulrike Uhlig (2021-03-29 10:58:13)
Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you? I cannot find your name in the
Debian contributor list.
Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you to ask that? I can
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 12:18:46PM +0200, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> I'm tired of that and I think we'll all be happier when this GR is over.
I must note that probably every controversial GR started with good
intentions gets such response sooner or later.
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Hello,
On 29.03.21 20:37, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Ulrike Uhlig (2021-03-29 10:58:13)
Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you? I cannot find your name in the
Debian contributor list.
Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you to ask that? I cannot your name
in the Debian mailinglist inqu
Hi,
Quoting Ulrike Uhlig (2021-03-29 10:58:13)
> Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you? I cannot find your name in the
> Debian contributor list.
Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you to ask that? I cannot your name
in the Debian mailinglist inquisitor list.
Best
Jonas
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Hi!
On 29.03.21 14:17, Milan Kupcevic wrote:
On 3/29/21 4:58 AM, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
[...]
Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you? I cannot find your name in the
Debian contributor list.
Your contributions to Debian [0][1][2][3] are very welcome. Do not get
discouraged by ignorant people w
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 11:24 AM Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>
> Diversity is not tolerating dangerous ideas and the persons defending
> these.
Ideas should always be free. That's how I understand diversity.
Kind regards
Felix Lechner
On 3/29/21 4:58 AM, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
[...]
>
> Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you? I cannot find your name in the
> Debian contributor list.
>
>
[...]
Ivan,
Your contributions to Debian [0][1][2][3] are very welcome. Do not get
discouraged by ignorant people who might try to shame you
Hi,
On 28.03.21 17:35, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you? I cannot find your name in the
Debian contributor list.
Best
Ulrike
Le dimanche 28 mars 2021 à 15:35:42+, Ivan Shmakov a écrit :
> > On 2021-03-26 15:50:02 +0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> > Le vendredi 26 mars 2021 à 16:50:06+0300, Sergey B Kirpichev a écrit :
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 02:08:34PM +0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>
>
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