On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote:
(And to answer to the comment ‘you do not need to be DPL for doing this’, that
is true, but if I make a bad score at this election, I will conclude that
there
are not many persons interested in what I propose anyway,
Hello Bernhard and everybody,
I think that the ‘RPM hell’ that you used to comment my propositions is more
related to a situation when independant distributions are using the same
package format, than when a distribution offers multiple repositories that obey
to a policy that keeps the whole
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote:
Regarding my proposal, that is internal to Debian, I do not think that it is
impossible. What I propose is a way for package maintainers to signal that
their package is peripheral in the Debian system, in an opt-in
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 03:17:03PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
In my experience, trivial RC bugs on not-so important packages attract
volunteers because it is very rewarding to close RC bugs.
snip
So in my opinion, not all RC bugs are equal, and a better priority
system would be useful to
Le Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 04:13:11PM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
Does popcon not already provide a way to order packages based on
importance? rc-alert has both options for sorting bugs by both local
global popcon score.
Hi Paul,
Popcon is definitely a potent indicator, but has its flaws as
Hi Hector,
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 05:55:35PM +0100, Hector Oron wrote:
[...]
Secondly, I was wondering how Debian could make it easier for people
to contribute than other (derivatives and non-derivatives)
distributions. I came up with a really nice draft howto[1]
When you say I came up
Dear Candidates,
First of all, I wish you all the very best for the elections!
At the outset, this question is not meant to be inflammatory or to
express ire at a particular individual or set of individuals involved;
I have great respect for the contributions of all involved in the
community.
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:47:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
However, as one of my initial actions as DPL, I do intend to submit a
post to debian-devel-announce with a set of guidelines for people to
follow when flamewars happen (and when they don't, in order to avoid
them).
Why is
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 05:26:36PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:47:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
However, as one of my initial actions as DPL, I do intend to submit a
post to debian-devel-announce with a set of guidelines for people to
follow when flamewars
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 01:40:44AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 05:26:36PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:47:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
However, as one of my initial actions as DPL, I do intend to submit a
post to
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 07:19:43PM +, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
So, I apologize, but I'm not going to disclose my leader vote in public.
I think the better phrasing for the original question would be:
List reasons why the other candidates would
Hello,
First of all congrats to all candidates and thanks for stepping up
for doing this task.
Secondly, I was wondering how Debian could make it easier for people
to contribute than other (derivatives and non-derivatives)
distributions. I came up with a really nice draft howto[1] which I
Hi Héctor!
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 05:55:35PM +0100, Hector Oron wrote:
First of all congrats to all candidates and thanks for stepping up
for doing this task.
Thanks! :-)
I came up with a really nice draft howto[1] which I would like to
bring up to your attention, so the basic question
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Hector Oron zu...@debian.org wrote:
Secondly, I was wondering how Debian could make it easier for people
to contribute than other (derivatives and non-derivatives)
distributions. I came up with a really nice draft howto[1] which I
would like to bring up to
Le Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 05:55:35PM +0100, Hector Oron a écrit :
Hello,
First of all congrats to all candidates and thanks for stepping up
for doing this task.
Secondly, I was wondering how Debian could make it easier for people
to contribute than other (derivatives and
Hi!
The following question is optional, as it discloses private information,
so feel free not to answer it. But non the less, I'm curious and would
appreciate, if you would be willing to answer. So here it goes:
Suppose that you would not run for DPL: Who would you vote and why?
Best
* Charles Plessy (ple...@debian.org) [100317 01:52]:
I propose that we reshape the sections and priorities of our archive, so that
it is easy to remove from Testing any RC bug that is not in a core pakcage,
and is old and not tagged RFH.
We already do that, provided the RC bug is old enough.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:09:43AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
The following question is optional, as it discloses private information,
so feel free not to answer it. But non the less, I'm curious and would
appreciate, if you would be willing to answer. So here it goes:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
alexan...@schmehl.info wrote:
The following question is optional, as it discloses private information, so
feel free not to answer it. But non the less, I'm curious and would
appreciate, if you would be willing to answer. So here it
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
So, I apologize, but I'm not going to disclose my leader vote in public.
I think the better phrasing for the original question would be:
List reasons why the other candidates would make a good DPL.
This question does not ask you to divulge your
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:09:43AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
Suppose that you would not run for DPL: Who would you vote and why?
I have a habit of publically (on my blog) disclosing my DPL vote, with
explanation, and will probably do so again this year (though that is not
by any
Le Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 08:09:19AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
During the last debconf, the freeze of squeeze was first announced to
take place in December, then this decision was cancelled, and now we are
in March.
- How do you analyze what happened during last summer? What went wrong?
* Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org [100317 01:52]:
I propose that we reshape the sections and priorities of our archive, so that
it is easy to remove from Testing any RC bug that is not in a core pakcage,
and is old and not tagged RFH.
How is that different from the current procedure?
In
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:57:13AM +0100]:
In my opinion, the best release we ever had (that I was a part of, at
least) was the Etch release process; shortly after Sarge had been
released, the release managers
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:56:58PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:45:33AM +0100]:
The numbers are easy. The amount of Debian Developers has been
approximately steady at about 1000 for the past ten years. Over that
same time, the amount of packages in
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Hmm, you got me thinking here on why this happened, as I share your
impression. Maybe it was because the project as a whole put more care
into the release process after the massive pain it was to release
Sarge, a three-year-long pain
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:01:14PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Nobody can do a sponsored upload, except a DD. Nobody can do an NMU,
except a DD. Nobody can maintain a buildd host, except a DD.
It was pointed out to me on IRC that yes, there are sponsored NMUs, and
that it therefore is
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote:
Hmm, you got me thinking here on why this happened, as I share your
impression. Maybe it was because the project as a whole put more care
into the release process after the massive pain it was to release
Sarge, a
Reading Wouter's post in this thread just now I realize I made a fairly
stupid mistake when writing my mail.
Frans Pop wrote:
This seems to be what the RT has been focussing on after Sarge. [...]
s/Sarge/Etch/
During the Sarge release these two sides were in balance. After that, for
Sarge
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:37:35AM +0700, Paul Wise wrote:
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote:
b) What qualifies a contributor to become a Debian Partner? What
qualifies a Debian Partner?
I don't think we have a formal list of Debian Partners
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:45:33AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Given the above, I believe the most important task ahead of us is making
Debian more attractive for users and prospective contributors; that is
what I intend to work on.
How do you intend to work on this?
Greetings
Marc
--
On Tue, 16.03.2010 at 01:45:33 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote:
increasing. By definition, that means the ratio of Debian Developers per
package has been doing down, and thus also that the core infrastructure
has less contributors. Having more packages does not necessarily mean
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:35:51PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:45:33AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Given the above, I believe the most important task ahead of us is making
Debian more attractive for users and prospective contributors; that is
what I intend
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:14:18PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
the number of DDs has not been going up for quite a while now.
If it hasn't declined very much, that'd be a good thing already.
FWIW, the total number of DDs is not a particularly good indicator of
the work force we have in Debian.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:59:39PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:14:18PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
the number of DDs has not been going up for quite a while now.
If it hasn't declined very much, that'd be a good thing already.
FWIW, the total number of DDs
Le Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:44:15PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just
technically but also socially. Apart from the standard issues of setting
deadlines, RC bug counts being high, and similar difficult technical
issues, the
Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:57:13AM +0100]:
In my opinion, the best release we ever had (that I was a part of, at
least) was the Etch release process; shortly after Sarge had been
released, the release managers had started to regularly update the
project as a whole on where
Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:45:33AM +0100]:
The numbers are easy. The amount of Debian Developers has been
approximately steady at about 1000 for the past ten years. Over that
same time, the amount of packages in our distribution has been steadily
increasing. By definition,
Kalle Kivimaa kalle.kivi...@iki.fi writes:
I don't think it is too much of a burden for a Debian volunteer to send
out quarterly or even monthly emails and then collate the answers. But
it might be a burden to the trustee organizations. But the only way to
find out is to ask, of course :)
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 05:36:41AM +, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
The list of organizations I'm aware of having Debian monies is:
Associação SoftwareLivre.org (Brazil)
Associazione Software Libero (Italy)
Debian UK
Debian Switzerland
Linux-Aktivaattori (Finland)
SPI
Verein zur Förderung Freier
Aníbal Monsalve Salazar ani...@debian.org writes:
At [0] AJ wrote that Martin Michlmayr spoke to Linux Australia about it
holding money/donations for Debian. So, potentially, LA may/will have
Debian money.
Thanks, this was news to me - and shows that I should have posted the
list already in
On 14/03/10 at 14:44 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
This is for all candidates.
Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just
technically but also socially. Apart from the standard issues of setting
deadlines, RC bug counts being high, and similar difficult technical
This is for all candidates.
In the last years I have seen a really disturbing development in
Debian: New developers are very interested in bringing new packages
into Debian, but care for our core infrastructure (dpkg, apt) has a
little bit diminished. I am not saying that noone seems to care, but
Marc Haber wrote:
In the last years I have seen a really disturbing development in
Debian: New developers are very interested in bringing new packages
into Debian, but care for our core infrastructure (dpkg, apt) has a
little bit diminished.
Good question and quite true.
IMO it's worth
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:52:44PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
IMO it's worth adding to that:
- Debian Installer development
- Porting: several ports are struggling
- Documentation maintenance:
- website
- Release Notes
- various other guides
Agreed. Any more additions by others?
Hi!
Marc Haber schrieb:
- Debian Installer development
- Porting: several ports are struggling
- Documentation maintenance:
- website
- Release Notes
- various other guides
Agreed. Any more additions by others?
ftp-team and more or less everything PR related.
Best regards,
Le lundi 15 mars 2010 à 12:54 +0100, Marc Haber a écrit :
Agreed. Any more additions by others?
Core packages: glibc, kernel, X.org, Mozilla, KDE, GNOME…
These are the packages everything else is built upon, yet people are
more interested in adding yet another implementation of existing
Le Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:40:32AM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs a écrit :
Hello =)
Hello again :)
Sometimes technical Debian discussions (mailing lists, bug reports,
blog posts, etc.) become personal flame-wars.
Do you think current frequency/amount of heated discussions is
acceptable for the
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Marc Haber mh+debian-v...@zugschlus.de wrote:
Do you see the diminishing care for our Core infrastructure as a
problem? Do you have any idea how do sensibilize our new blood for the
fact that new packages doesn't help Debian if our Core stuff is
diminishing? I
Margarita Manterola wrote:
I think that most of the frustration comes from the fact that the
release team is lacking manpower. The job of the release team is very
stressful and very rarely do the RM and RA feel that their work is
appreciated.
I disagree. I think the main problem is that
Hi Frans,
Let me first start by stating that I'm sadly concerned about the tone
of your mail.
Nobody claims that the release process has been done perfectly, there
have been mistakes, but we are all human and we can all make mistakes.
It's alright to point those mistakes out so that people can
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:30:39AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
Do you see the diminishing care for our Core infrastructure as a
problem? Do you have any idea how do sensibilize our new blood for the
fact that new packages doesn't help Debian if our Core stuff is
diminishing? I know that this is
Marc Haber wrote:
- dpkg still uses normal console prompting for dpkg-conffile
handling, while debconf has been mandatory for regular packages for
years now.
Dpkg has more active development now than it has for much of the
past fifteen years. And they've even talked some about
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:44:15PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just
technically but also socially.
To some extent, I believe it is normal. Releases are our main
products, they define our purpose. The people which are putting their
Hi,
On Sun Mar 14, 2010 at 22:10:30 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
- it is not easy enough accessible to DDs (I know, it is enough to
become a SPI member and subscribe to the list, but I still believe it
should be _easier_, e.g. a directory somewhere with archived .txt
files
[ Please: can people that follow-up with different questions change the
subject accordingly? I believe it would make easier to read the
question archive afterwords. ]
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 08:09:19AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
During the last debconf, the freeze of squeeze was first
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:02:59AM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
Hi,
this question goes to all candidates:
The Debian Project receives quite a number of monetary donations as well
as contributions in kind via several umbrella organization like SPI,
ffis, debian.ch, etc.
a) What do
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 03:45:46PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Marc Haber wrote:
- The concept of all services are immediately started after
configuration and deleting all stop/start links will cause the
package's defaults to be re-established on the next package update
is
Marc Haber mh+debian-v...@zugschlus.de (15/03/2010):
Maybe we failed to provide such a two-liner, which in fact is,
unfortunately, much more complicated than one might think naively.
Additionally, example code for policy-rc.d is (almost?) nonexistent.
Maybe running reportbug would be more
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04:57AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Marc Haber mh+debian-v...@zugschlus.de (15/03/2010):
Maybe we failed to provide such a two-liner, which in fact is,
unfortunately, much more complicated than one might think naively.
Additionally, example code for policy-rc.d
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:13:02PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
SPI's Treasurer, Michael Schultheiss, (and by the way Debian Developer)
does a really good job by sending out monthly Treasurer's Reports which
are in every monthly meeting minutes linked from
Hi Raphael,
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 08:18:00AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hello,
this is a question to all DPL candidates.
Imagine a DD contacts you, she wants to setup an infrastructure to finance
Debian related projects (i.e. paying people to enable them to work on the
projects
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:40:32AM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Hello =)
Sometimes technical Debian discussions (mailing lists, bug reports,
blog posts, etc.) become personal flame-wars.
Indeed.
Do you think current frequency/amount of heated discussions is
acceptable for the Debian
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04:57AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Marc Haber mh+debian-v...@zugschlus.de (15/03/2010):
Maybe we failed to provide such a two-liner, which in fact is,
unfortunately, much more complicated than one might think naively.
Additionally, example code for policy-rc.d
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:44:15PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
This is for all candidates.
Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just
technically but also socially. Apart from the standard issues of setting
deadlines, RC bug counts being high, and similar difficult
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 08:09:19AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
On 14/03/10 at 14:44 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
This is for all candidates.
Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just
technically but also socially. Apart from the standard issues of setting
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:12:02AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
I also don't think it is a bad thing, in principle, if Debian were to
pay people to work on Debian. However, it is generally a bad idea if
some cabal were to select who could get Debian monies and who couldn't;
I believe that is
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:30:39AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
This is for all candidates.
In the last years I have seen a really disturbing development in
Debian: New developers are very interested in bringing new packages
into Debian, but care for our core infrastructure (dpkg, apt) has a
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:53:20PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:12:02AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
I also don't think it is a bad thing, in principle, if Debian were to
pay people to work on Debian. However, it is generally a bad idea if
some cabal were to
Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:40:32AM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Do you think current frequency/amount of heated discussions is
acceptable for the Debian project?
I believe no amount of ad-hominem discussion is acceptable.
There's a significant
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:11:39PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:40:32AM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Do you think current frequency/amount of heated discussions is
acceptable for the Debian project?
I believe no
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote:
b) What qualifies a contributor to become a Debian Partner? What
qualifies a Debian Partner?
I don't think we have a formal list of Debian Partners (but I could be
wrong). I'm also not convinced we need one.
If we
Hi Julien,
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Julien Cristau wrote:
Compare Random Joe Developer is soliciting funding for his debian work
vs Debian is soliciting funding for Random Joe Developer's debian
work. The former is fine IMO, has no risk of being seen as a Debian
thing, and can be done without
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:04:37PM +1100, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:01, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote:
Some DDs are able to pursue specific Debian projects due to bounties
they put on the projects (both AJ and Raphael have similar initiatives
on their
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 09:39:27AM +1100, Anthony Towns wrote:
But all that aside, GSoC still gets some flames on Debian lists; see
the thread on -devel from about this time last year, eg:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/04/msg00424.html
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:02:59AM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
a) What do you think are valid goals to spend this money on?
I believe the driving principle should be to use money as much as
possible to keep the project running at its best, while keeping an
emergency reserve (e.g. to be sure
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
or not. Note that achieving that is not necessarily easy: it probably
involves more work on the shoulders of various treasurers and we should
be ready to help out with that, if it is a blocker.
It isn't that difficult, the only thing that needs to
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs
dmitrij.led...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you think current frequency/amount of heated discussions is
acceptable for the Debian project?
Even though the mailing lists climate is much better than what it was
5 years ago, I think that it still
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:40:32AM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Do you think current frequency/amount of heated discussions is
acceptable for the Debian project? What would you do to reduce those?
Acceptable? No. Normal? To some extent, yes.
Debian has a history of inflammable mailing
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:16:41AM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
How, how often, and when do you intend to communicate with the project?
In the past there have been Bits from the DPL emails which have been nice,
but during the last couple of years there have also been some press
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 01:59:18PM +, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
It isn't that difficult, the only thing that needs to happen is for the
Debian Auditor to do his/her job regularily. Of course, if we want eg.
quarterly reports, then it might add additional burden on the various
treasureres of the
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
As I wrote before, one thing is a desiderata, one thing is what you can
get given the available work forces. Given that you've just stepped
back from the position (which, honestly, I forgot we had), the first
obvious step is now finding a new
Le Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 08:18:00AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
Imagine a DD contacts you, she wants to setup an infrastructure to finance
Debian related projects (i.e. paying people to enable them to work on the
projects that they'd like to do for Debian) but she wants to avoid the
main
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote:
Imagine a DD contacts you, she wants to setup an infrastructure to finance
Debian related projects (i.e. paying people to enable them to work on the
projects that they'd like to do for Debian) but she wants to avoid the
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:55:38PM +0700, Paul Wise wrote:
I wonder if the questions period of the DPL elections would be more
productive if platforms were published beforehand?
FWIW, my platform is ready, if someone want to have a look before the
official publishing just ask me me, otherwise I
Hi,
thanks for your answers!
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Margarita Manterola wrote:
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote:
Imagine a DD contacts you, she wants to setup an infrastructure to finance
Debian related projects (i.e. paying people to enable them to
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 05:10:25PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
FWIW, I think a 2IC is much more effective for outside-leaning
communication, i.e. filtering and/or answering leader@ mail (which
apparently can be overwhelming) and such, not for communication with
other project members or teams.
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 08:18:00AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Imagine a DD contacts you, she wants to setup an infrastructure to finance
Debian related projects (i.e. paying people to enable them to work on the
projects that they'd like to do for Debian) but she wants to avoid the
main
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 07:01:21PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
So, given that my main perplexities come from the fact that a DD is
involved in organizing all this, you can imagine I wouldn't mind: a
company doing that (which is already the case for Google with GSoC), a
non-DD/DM doing
Raphael,
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 17:52:33 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Margarita Manterola wrote:
However, if it's seen as a Debian thing, instead of an external
thing like GSoC is, then it might lead to some resentment from the
side of the people that don't get any
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:11, Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org wrote:
Note that GSoc is supposed to sponsor students to do some development
work, preferably with the purpose of getting these people involved in a
project they weren't involved in to begin with.
That's not, per se, accurate. From
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Margarita Manterola wrote:
There are a bunch listed in my yet-to-be-published platform. But
just to give an example from the previous mail, I'd like to have a
page with rankings of people reporting and fixing bugs, in order to
give some nice Debian merchandise to the ones
Hello =)
Sometimes technical Debian discussions (mailing lists, bug reports,
blog posts, etc.) become personal flame-wars.
Do you think current frequency/amount of heated discussions is
acceptable for the Debian project?
What would you do to reduce those?
--Dima.
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:01, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote:
Some DDs are able to pursue specific Debian projects due to bounties
they put on the projects (both AJ and Raphael have similar initiatives
on their homepages, even though I don't know how much they are
successful in
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 01:12:57AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Do you plan on taking on a 2IC or a team?
I personally don't plan to have neither a DPL board, nor a 2IC.
Cheers.
--
Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7
On 03/12/2010 10:55 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
I personally don't plan to have neither a DPL board, nor a 2IC.
why not?
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 01:12:57AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Heyho,
a little question to all those up for the next DPL:
Do you plan on taking on a 2IC or a team?
I don't plan on doing so, no. We've had a few DPLs in the past who did
so, but I don't see a significant difference in
Le Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 01:12:57AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
Heyho,
a little question to all those up for the next DPL:
Do you plan on taking on a 2IC or a team?
If so: Who? And why this/those?
Hi Joerg,
If I understand correctly, the 2IC is another person that gets the emails for
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 03:47:53PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
In fact, if you think about it, the proposal of a DPL board / 2IC just
gives a formal status to something that should be normal,
i.e. interaction among DPL and people knowledgeable/competent on
specific topics/tasks.
FWIW, I
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org wrote:
a little question to all those up for the next DPL:
Do you plan on taking on a 2IC or a team?
If so: Who? And why this/those?
I don't plan to take a 2IC or a DPL team, in the sense of someone else
receiving lea...@.
I do
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