"James Herrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...] There are basically two types of people that use the debian website;
> end
> users and developers/contributers. There reasons for going to the site are
> completely different, so why not have two seperate sites?
I stumbled across a saved par
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 08:10:20PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> In the meantime, I'll be generating the data, but I also need someone to run
> apache2ctl graceful so that the CGI becomes accessible in the www-master
> virtual host.
It appears that either a human or the weekly log rotation cron job
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 10:37:10PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > > Thanks :) Can I also please extend the wishlist to this:
> > >
> > > install -d -g debwww -m 2775 /var/www/{analog,visitors}
> >
> > Hmm, /var/www/analog is already a symlink to /usr/share/analog/images
> > were you wanting that t
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 04:57:14PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > Thanks :) Can I also please extend the wishlist to this:
> >
> > install -d -g debwww -m 2775 /var/www/{analog,visitors}
>
> Hmm, /var/www/analog is already a symlink to /usr/share/analog/images
> were you wanting that to be chgrp-
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> On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 04:41:57PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
>> Done (including installing visitors, and making all the old .gz log files
>> belong to group debwww as well)
>
> Thanks :) Can I also please extend the wishlist to t
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 09:43:36PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Easy there, I'm just going to set up the cron job now :)
>
> It will take some time for awstats to run through the old data, though.
All right, now I'm running a script that is making webalizer catch up,
and then after that I'll pour
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 09:43:36PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> % sudo -u debwww crontab -l | grep webaliz
> 37 5,11,17,23 * * * /var/www/webalizer/do-all -Q
>
> but I can't see what happens to it. exim4 -bt indicates that cron should
> have been sending mail through the normal interfaces, and endi
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 04:41:57PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> Done (including installing visitors, and making all the old .gz log files
> belong to group debwww as well)
Thanks :) Can I also please extend the wishlist to this:
install -d -g debwww -m 2775 /var/www/{analog,visitors}
(/var/www i
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 06:29:38PM +0200, Runa Agate Sandvik wrote:
> > Done (including installing visitors, and making all the old .gz log files
> > belong to group debwww as well)
>
> Where can we find the stats now? :)
Easy there, I'm just going to set up the cron job now :)
It will take some
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 04:41:57PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> Done (including installing visitors, and making all the old .gz log files
> belong to group debwww as well)
Where can we find the stats now? :)
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> On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:33:01PM +0200, Runa Agate Sandvik wrote:
>>> True. Nobody has taken time to use some tools, go through our [web] logs
>>> and gives us what the common usage patterns of the current website are.
>> I have
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 12:04:11PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> apt-get install visitors
afaik, awstats gives much more info compared to visitors :)
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On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 12:02:17PM +0200, joy wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:33:01PM +0200, Runa Agate Sandvik wrote:
> > > True. Nobody has taken time to use some tools, go through our [web] logs
> > > and gives us what the common usage patterns of the current website are.
> >
> > I have now
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:33:01PM +0200, Runa Agate Sandvik wrote:
> > True. Nobody has taken time to use some tools, go through our [web] logs
> > and gives us what the common usage patterns of the current website are.
>
> I have now :)
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:04:19PM +0200, Runa Agate Sandv
> MJ Ray schrieb:
> > Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> >
> >> * I don't believe we should favor XML(-ish stuff) above simplified
> >> markup when the target audience are humans. XML is good for many things
> >> but definitely not for being edited by the casual user. [...]
> >
Hi!
* Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070426 15:33]:
> >>* I don't believe we should favor XML(-ish stuff) above simplified
> >> markup when the target audience are humans. XML is good for many things
> >> but definitely not for being edited by the casual user. BTW there are
> > XML is at
* Grégoire Duchêne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-22 11:18]:
> You won't educate users, and you cannot force them to read security
> advisories.
You can't force them to read them, but not giving them the chance to
and show them in that way that it in fact _is_ an important thing is a
wrong approach
* Jens Seidel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-17 12:49]:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 12:33:43PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
>> * I don't believe we should favor XML(-ish stuff) above simplified
>> markup when the target audience are humans. XML is good for many things
>> but definitely not for be
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:29:57 +0200, Grégoire Duchêne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 2007/4/23, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Ubuntu is free software. We are not enemies. We are not
>> incompetition.
> Choice, and diversity, is a
>> strength of free software, andwe should not be trying to
Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MJ Ray schrieb:
> > We have good tools for editing XML, which are much better than
> > the tools we have for editing non-TextFormattingRules wiki texts.
>
> The point is: All you need to edit wiki syntax effectively is a plain
> text field (and optionall
2007/4/23, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Ubuntu is free software. We are not enemies. We are not incompetition.
Choice, and diversity, is a
strength of free software, andwe should not be trying to to reduce that.
Many distribution are Debian-based because this distribution is very
pow
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:18:30 +0200, Grégoire Duchêne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Well, this point of view explains why people don't use Debian, and use
> Ubuntu.
No single distribution is suited for every single user, and we
should not try to please everyone, since that effort is doomed
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:18:30 +0200, Grégoire Duchêne
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Well, this point of view explains why people don't use Debian, and use
> Ubuntu. You won't educate users, and you cannot force them to read
> security advisories. We have to keep security advisories in the
> homepa
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:10:42 +0200, Grégoire Duchêne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 2007/4/22, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> people who do not care about security, and refuse to be educated,
>> ought to be gently steered to Windows?
> I don't believe that this type of point of view will
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007, Jens Seidel wrote:
> Right. I agree that security anouncements can be removed from the
> top level page. A single link such as "Security related problems are
> described on this page" would be sufficient, maybe also a reference
> to the last DSA instead of the last 10-15 ones.
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 11:31:00PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> > Translators also have good tools for handling gettext. What's more,
> > if we used gettext for more of the site, we could use nice web
> > translation frontends more easily. I'm not sure it's worthwhile, but
> > it seems a bette
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 06:10:42PM +0200, Grégoire Duchêne wrote:
> I'm sorry Jens, I was just thinking that you would probably read my
> message as an answer to the direct previous message. Please, accept my
> apologies, and let me correct this here (you can delete my previous
> message if you lik
I'm sorry Jens, I was just thinking that you would probably read my
message as an answer to the direct previous message. Please, accept my
apologies, and let me correct this here (you can delete my previous
message if you like) :
2007/4/22, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
people who do no
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 11:18:30AM +0200, Grégoire Duchêne wrote:
> Well, this point of view explains why people don't use Debian, and use
> Ubuntu.
What point of view
Please learn to properly quote messages you are referring to. I
deleted already many posts to this thread and now I wonder t
Well, this point of view explains why people don't use Debian, and use Ubuntu.
You won't educate users, and you cannot force them to read security
advisories. We have to keep security advisories in the homepage (as I
did it in my drafts), but IMO we also need to understand that
lambda-users don't
I think what was trying to be said is that for the end user information
should be presented in a more user friendly and less technical way. Most end
users wouldnt have a clue what the 'DSA-1278man-db vulnerability' is and may
frankly just ignore it. I agree users should be educated about security
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:54:49 +0200, Grégoire Duchêne
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I believe that news about the Project are more important than security
> advisories because the end-user just don't care about the
> DSA-1278man-db vulnerability. He just wants to know the lastest news
> about the p
Hi,
I have made a quick proposal for my 'two sites' idea. The link is below.
http://james.isafreelancer.com/debian/debian_two_sites_proposal.pdf
The document is by no means exhaustive however i thought it would help some
people better understand the idea.
Thanks
James
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users and developers/contributers. There reasons for going to the site are
completely different, so why not have two seperate sites?
Thi
I believe that news about the Project are more important than security
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:25:49 +0200, Grégoire Duchêne
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 1/ There is too many informations on the homepage : when a visitor
> comes and wants to get Debian, he needs to see clearly where he can
> get the lastest version of Debian. Thus, I believe that the "Getting
> s
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 04:28:59PM +0200, Runa Agate Sandvik wrote:
> Let me know if there is any more requests for the statistics :)
I have now uploaded all the files (awstats.debian.html + subpages):
http://home.samfundet.no/~runa/debian/stats/awstats.debian.html
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On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:55:02PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> Could we get the "Requested pages" stats a bit longer, something like the
> 100 most requested pages?
Yay, AWstats seems to work a lot better:
http://home.samfundet.no/~runa/debian/awstats.debian.2007.html
Let me know if there is any m
Joey Hess napisal(a):
Wojciech Zareba wrote:
Grégoire Duche^ne napisal(a):
I updated the draft, with a new layout and new colors :
http://duchene.g.googlepages.com/index2.html
You have five different colors of backgrounds, and four different colors
of text (five with links). That's at least t
Runa Agate Sandvik a écrit :
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 03:40:15AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
True. Nobody has taken time to use some tools, go through our logs and gives
us what the common usage patterns of the current website are.
I have now :)
You can find the results here[1]
MJ Ray schrieb:
> Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
>> * I don't believe we should favor XML(-ish stuff) above simplified
>> markup when the target audience are humans. XML is good for many things
>> but definitely not for being edited by the casual user. [...]
>
> We have good
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 09:11:17PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> Good stuff! Can you generate the --trails report, please?
I tried using 'visitors --prefix --trails ../* > report-3.html', but it
generated the same as report.html
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> You're right MJ Ray, I will set the text color and background color in order
> to make it readable for (I hope :-) all browser settings.
I'd suggest leaving the main body colours to the browser defaults if
you can and only setting them for side bars,
Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> * I don't believe we should favor XML(-ish stuff) above simplified
> markup when the target audience are humans. XML is good for many things
> but definitely not for being edited by the casual user. [...]
We have good tools for editing XML,
Runa Agate Sandvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can find the results here[1] or use the opportunity to [...]
> [1]: http://home.samfundet.no/~runa/debian/report.html
Good stuff! Can you generate the --trails report, please?
I don't know which logs you have, so I can't suggest the prefix.
Tha
Wojciech Zareba wrote:
> Grégoire Duchêne napisal(a):
> >I updated the draft, with a new layout and new colors :
> >http://duchene.g.googlepages.com/index2.html
You have five different colors of backgrounds, and four different colors
of text (five with links). That's at least three too many of eac
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:55:02PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> Could we get the "Requested pages" stats a bit longer, something like the
> 100 most requested pages?
I could try :)
> Could you also get statistics that excludes the period since the release
> of Etch? I have a strong feeling that th
On Thursday 19 April 2007 19:33, Runa Agate Sandvik wrote:
> [1]: http://home.samfundet.no/~runa/debian/report.html
Nice!
Could we get the "Requested pages" stats a bit longer, something like the
100 most requested pages?
Could you also get statistics that excludes the period since the release
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 03:40:15AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> True. Nobody has taken time to use some tools, go through our logs and gives
> us what the common usage patterns of the current website are.
I have now :)
You can find the results here[1] or use the opportunity to ch
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Pen~a napisal(a):
(...)
IMHO the problem with the current website is not the look in itself, but the
fact that users have a difficult time navigating it or finding specific
information in it.
The look in itself is inatractiv too (IMHO) ;-)
Wojciech
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 09:46:23AM +0200, Wojciech Zareba wrote:
> Our company has used Debian since few yaears, but I never needed to visit
> Debian pages for security updates, documetation, etc. I had only two
> reasons: to read news about new releases and changes, and to download new
> testin
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On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 09:25:49PM +0200, Grégoire Duch??ne wrote:
1/ There is too many informations on the homepage : when a visitor
comes and wants to get Debian, he needs to see clearly where he can
get the lastest version of Debian. Thus, I beli
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Fabrice LORRAIN wrote:
> Josip Rodin a écrit :
> ...
> >You're assuming that a visitor comes and wants to get Debian.
> >Do you really think that all those people want to instantly download
> >and install an operating system? I don't think they do; I think
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 12:33:43PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> * I don't believe we should favor XML(-ish stuff) above simplified
> markup when the target audience are humans. XML is good for many things
> but definitely not for being edited by the casual user. BTW there are
> wiki engine
Josip Rodin a écrit :
...
You're assuming that a visitor comes and wants to get Debian.
Do you really think that all those people want to instantly download
and install an operating system? I don't think they do; I think that
there is a sizeable chunk of visitors who will just be browsing,
come a
Grégoire Duchêne a écrit :
Thank you!
I'm trying to do a 3-column layout, with on the left the detailled menu,
and on the right a column with some less useful texts.
A difficult exercice, the 3-columns layout, gives an overdense page
unpleasant to read, ... most of the time.
@+,
Fa
Grégoire Duchêne a écrit :
We also could think about a totally different website, using templates
for all languages (i.e in a templates/ directory) and some translation
files (i.e languages/en/ for english texts). Then we'll juste have to
include the right texts in a template.
Thus, translato
Frans Pop a écrit :
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 10:43, Bastian Venthur wrote:
Why do you think wiki.d.o and d.o should be separate? I mean a wiki has
all the things a static website has plus revision control, ACL and
easy-to-use build in.
For one thing, the wiki does not have a translation infras
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 09:25:49PM +0200, Grégoire Duch??ne wrote:
> 1/ There is too many informations on the homepage : when a visitor
> comes and wants to get Debian, he needs to see clearly where he can
> get the lastest version of Debian. Thus, I believe that the "Getting
> starterd" can be rem
Well, there are two layout :
- the first : http://duchene.g.googlepages.com/index.html
- the second : http://duchene.g.googlepages.com/index2.html
Well, I try to do not change too many things, in order to do not distrub
users and visitors.
I agree Nicolas, we should avoid pictures.
Cheers,
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Le mercredi 18 avril 2007, Wojciech Zareba écrivit :
[...]
> I don't feel to have an artistic soul... I like it, but I think that "Get
> Debian GNU/Linux!" should be bigger and more colourfull (maybe a .gif
> picture), in the previous version it was more visible.
[...]
please, avoid pictures, th
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 17:27, Grégoire Duchêne wrote:
> I just wanted to know which layout do you prefer, the first or the
> second ?
Hmm. Not sure what you mean by "first" and "second". I think I've only
seen one link from you to a preview page...
pgp41RYew3rbN.pgp
Description: PGP signatu
Well Frans, I'm currently trying to change the current layout, but I haven't
included all the links, and of course, I am working on a more complete draft
with more than 1 page.
I just wanted to know which layout do you prefer, the first or the second ?
Greetings,
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Frans Pop napisał(a):
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 15:57, Wojciech Zareba wrote:
Yes, in general the proposed structure of the website is for me more
clearly as currently.
Sorry, but I don't understand this comment at all. So far this proposal
has done _nothing_ with regards to the *structure*
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 15:57, Wojciech Zareba wrote:
> Yes, in general the proposed structure of the website is for me more
> clearly as currently.
Sorry, but I don't understand this comment at all. So far this proposal
has done _nothing_ with regards to the *structure* of the *website*.
The
Runa Agate Sandvik napisał(a):
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 03:41:09PM +0200, Wojciech Zareba wrote:
I don't feel to have an artistic soul... I like it, but I think that "Get
Debian GNU/Linux!" should be bigger and more colourfull (maybe a .gif
picture), in the previous version it was more visible.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 03:41:09PM +0200, Wojciech Zareba wrote:
> I don't feel to have an artistic soul... I like it, but I think that "Get
> Debian GNU/Linux!" should be bigger and more colourfull (maybe a .gif
> picture), in the previous version it was more visible.
> Besides, in my opinion, y
Grégoire Duchêne napisal(a):
I updated the draft, with a new layout and new colors :
http://duchene.g.googlepages.com/index2.html
You still can view the first draft here :
http://duchene.g.googlepages.com/index.html.
Cheers,
-- Grégoire.
I don't feel to have an artistic soul... I like it,
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 12:24:54PM +0200, Grégoire Duchêne wrote:
> Wojciech Zareba, which colors would you like to see on the website ?
You'll find the answer if you read the previous posts to this thread :)
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I'm trying to do a 3-column layout, with on the left the detailled menu, and
on the right a column with some less useful texts.
Changing colors is quite difficult, because (as Runa said) the logo is red,
so the colors have to match with this. I'll try to include more "exotic"
colors l
Runa Agate Sandvik napisał(a):
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 10:43:03AM +0200, Wojciech Zareba wrote:
More green, yellow, orange...
The logo is red, so I think we should stick with matching colors. I'll see
what I can come up with since I'm currently working on my own suggestion for
a new css :)
-
"Grégoire Duchêne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://duchene.g.googlepages.com/index.html
> What do you think about that ?
Seems to validate as xhtml: good! For some reason, the web-based CSS
validator complains about an I/O error for me. I guess that's another
google bug.
"Get Debian GNU/Lin
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 10:43:03AM +0200, Wojciech Zareba wrote:
> More green, yellow, orange...
The logo is red, so I think we should stick with matching colors. I'll see
what I can come up with since I'm currently working on my own suggestion for
a new css :)
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 10:28:10AM +0200, Wojciech Zareba wrote:
I like it, except colours. I don't like current colours too.
What colors would you like to see on the website? :)
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More green, yellow, orange...
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> I like it, except colours. I don't like current colours too.
What colors would you like to see on the website? :)
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I am trying to modify the current layout, you can try it here :
http://duchene.g.googlepages.com/index.html (careful, the files won't
stay here forever !)
As you can see, there is only two menus in the top (one red, one blue
(which replace the left menu)).
What
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 07:38:31PM -0700, mx wrote:
> Actually I appreciate the left menu on debian.org. It is a kind of
> mini site map which can save you a couple of click.
I too prefer a left menu, but it's good too see that someone wants to go from
discussion only to some results. Good job
Grégoire Duchêne a écrit :
> I am trying to modify the current layout, you can try it here :
> http://duchene.g.googlepages.com/index.html (careful, the files won't
> stay
> here forever !)
Nice layout indeed.
> As you can see, there is only two menus in the top (one red, one blue
> (which
> replac
I am trying to modify the current layout, you can try it here :
http://duchene.g.googlepages.com/index.html (careful, the files won't stay
here forever !)
As you can see, there is only two menus in the top (one red, one blue (which
replace the left menu)).
What do you think about that ?
Cheers,
* Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-17 10:15] :
> Hi,
>
> I'm sure this was discussed before (I'm not following -www regulary),
> but why don't we merge the wiki.d.o and debian.org?
>
> If we fear vandalism for the "official" part of the homepage we could
> restrict the write-access of
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:33:43 +0200
Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> Please think of the translators: If I see an English page with an
> outdated, wrong or nonresistant German translation it would be a matter
> of minutes correcting this in a wiki. But in the current system the all
> th
We also could think about a totally different website, using templates for
all languages (i.e in a templates/ directory) and some translation files (
i.e languages/en/ for english texts). Then we'll juste have to include the
right texts in a template.
Thus, translators will juste have to... trans
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 10:43, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> Why do you think wiki.d.o and d.o should be separate? I mean a wiki has
> all the things a static website has plus revision control, ACL and
> easy-to-use build in.
For one thing, the wiki does not have a translation infrastructure.
For anot
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 12:33:43PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> * I don't believe we should favor XML(-ish stuff) above simplified
> markup when the target audience are humans. XML is good for many things
> but definitely not for being edited by the casual user. BTW there are
XML is at le
Am 17.04.2007 12:00 schrieb MJ Ray:
[...]
> Hope that explains better,
Thanks! It does, but I still disagree with you in some points:
* I don't believe we should favor XML(-ish stuff) above simplified
markup when the target audience are humans. XML is good for many things
but definitely n
Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [about my explanation]
> Unfortunately not :) I worked with SVN and WML for some of my own
> projects before and finally dropped it because it was too cumbersome to
> use compared with a decent wiki or a CMS.
That's fine if one's starting from a clean sla
Am 17.04.2007 10:40 schrieb MJ Ray:
> Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm sure this was discussed before (I'm not following -www regulary),
>
> So search the archives.
>
>> but why don't we merge the wiki.d.o and debian.org? [...]
>
> In short, because wiki.d.o is even uglier, eve
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 10:44:06AM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
> Right! Let's move useful content from the wiki to www.debian.org and
> replace it afterwards with a pointer to the website. Please note that
> this doesn't make sense for each part of the wiki.
I agree with this. The structure of the w
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 10:43:49AM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> Why do you think wiki.d.o and d.o should be separate? I mean a wiki has
> all the things a static website has plus revision control, ACL and
> easy-to-use build in.
Just because there are so much information in the wiki, and I don'
Am 17.04.2007 10:29 schrieb Runa Agate Sandvik:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 10:15:56AM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
>> I'm sure this was discussed before (I'm not following -www regulary),
>> but why don't we merge the wiki.d.o and debian.org?
>
> I think we should have the wiki and the main websit
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 10:15:56AM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> I'm sure this was discussed before (I'm not following -www regulary),
No, it wasn't.
> but why don't we merge the wiki.d.o and debian.org?
Right! Let's move useful content from the wiki to www.debian.org and
replace it afterwards
Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sure this was discussed before (I'm not following -www regulary),
So search the archives.
> but why don't we merge the wiki.d.o and debian.org? [...]
In short, because wiki.d.o is even uglier, even more cumbersome to
edit, even harder to make tra
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 10:15:56AM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> I'm sure this was discussed before (I'm not following -www regulary),
> but why don't we merge the wiki.d.o and debian.org?
I think we should have the wiki and the main website seperate, but we could
probably merge women.debian.org
Hi,
I'm sure this was discussed before (I'm not following -www regulary),
but why don't we merge the wiki.d.o and debian.org?
If we fear vandalism for the "official" part of the homepage we could
restrict the write-access of those sites to certain usergroups. I'm sure
MoinMoin supports ACL and st
Grégoire Duchêne napisal(a):
Hello everybody,
I have a few ideas about improving the Debian website.
l'd like to talk about the homepage, but these ideas can be applied to
the whole website.
This homepage is ugly. Why ?
1/ There is too many informations on the homepage : when a visitor
comes
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Subject: Re: Improvements of the website
To: Grégoire Duchêne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:44:26 +0200
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 09:25:49PM +0200, Grégoire Duchêne wrote:
> I have a few ideas about improving t
Hello everybody,
I have a few ideas about improving the Debian website.
l'd like to talk about the homepage, but these ideas can be applied to
the whole website.
This homepage is ugly. Why ?
1/ There is too many informations on the homepage : when a visitor
comes and wants to get Debian, he ne
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