Re: Mesa 6.4.2 and 6.5, Release Candidates

2006-05-25 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Aaron, On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 03:01:07PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: backfires badly, yielding unusable binary packages. In addition, the new approach seems to be major overkill -- whereas 6.4.1-0.4 shipped 349 files totalling ~7.6M, 6.4.2-1 ships 1060 files totalling ~18.3M. Ah,

Bug#359328: Fixed in mesa upstream

2006-05-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 02:02:22PM +0100, Andy Parkins wrote: As it turns out this problem is caused by the snapshot builds using outdated Xorg 6.9 sources that are incompatible with the current i915 driver from Mesa. i915 snapshots 20060123 and older should still be OK. So I guess

Re: 6.4.2 and 6.5

2006-05-23 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 09:39:14PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: Now that Xorg 7.1 is out, we need to work out some plan for actually uploading 6.5 to the archive. My current plan is to stage 7.1 in experimental very soon, and then when it's stabilized move it to unstable. Since Brian

Re: mesa: FTBFS on hurd-i386 because of dri/drm

2006-05-14 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 06:14:13PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: the attached patch fixes this problem in the most elegant way I could come up with given the make-me-harder attitude of mesa's debian/rules. If somebody has a better suggestion, I'd be happy to know :) Whatever. If don't

Re: Mesa 6.5 Development Release

2006-04-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 10:35:44AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: Mesa 6.5 is a development release with known problems. Should that be allowed to migrate to testing? It's my impression that the semantics you seem to attribute to sid have mostly shifted to experimental and that sid is mostly

Re: Mesa 6.5 Development Release

2006-04-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 06:58:55PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: The Xprint server has OpenGL support which is switched by identifying the mesa source. I'm not entirely certain what it's for, I presume it's for grabbing a snapshot of the current GL image in a window, for sending to a

Bug#363147: libxklavier10: Debian patch xorg_xkb_path.patch breaks libxklavier

2006-04-17 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Package: libxklavier10 Version: 2.2-2 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable Tags: patch This fixes a bug that has been bothering a rather large ammount of people. AFAICS libxklavier can't do zilch without this fix. The patch: ---

Re: mesag3 - xlibmesa-gl / libgl1-mesa-dri - xlibmesa-dri / libglu1-mesa - libglu1-xorg

2005-09-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:58:19PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: Right. My solution for that was to split them into a separate mesa-utils source package, with a slightly hacked Makefile. They build just fine independently. Ah, you mean the utils! The demos are shipped in a separate

Re: mesag3 - xlibmesa-gl / libgl1-mesa-dri - xlibmesa-dri / libglu1-mesa - libglu1-xorg

2005-09-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 05:30:52PM -0400, Michel Dänzer wrote: I tried building from SVN: [...] mkdir -p debian/stamp/ touch debian/stamp/target-gl-debian-debug dh_testdir chmod +x debian/shadowtree rm -f -rf build/gl-debian-debug-i386 debian/shadowtree

Re: mesag3 - xlibmesa-gl / libgl1-mesa-dri - xlibmesa-dri / libglu1-mesa - libglu1-xorg

2005-08-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 02:41:05AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: It seems that mesa (6.3.2) as well as xorg (6.8.2) both provide a GL/GLU implemetation. If you look at:

Re: mesag3 - xlibmesa-gl / libgl1-mesa-dri - xlibmesa-dri / libglu1-mesa - libglu1-xorg

2005-08-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:35:55PM -0400, Michel Dänzer wrote: Is this an attempt to smooth the transition from the xorg packages to the mesa ones and in the course of the X modularisation to get completely rid of the GL/GLU code in xorg (and the libgl*-xorg packages) and use

Re: mesag3 - xlibmesa-gl / libgl1-mesa-dri - xlibmesa-dri / libglu1-mesa - libglu1-xorg

2005-08-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:07:46PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: Sorry, I've really just not had any time recently, and there are some things I wanted to clean up before I fired off to you (e.g. the Build-Dep on glut, which introduced horrible Build-Deps and other hilarity which meant that

Re: Procedure reminders on updating a lib package for a C++ ABI change

2005-07-19 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:00:13PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: ...but wait. If this is the case, isn't there a potential problem when a C++ program uses libGLU? Couldn't we end up with conflicting symbols from two different versions of libstdc++, one linked into libGLU and the other

Re: Procedure reminders on updating a lib package for a C++ ABI change

2005-07-16 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Also, for those who aren't aware, the new xorg packages now in unstable are also implicated in the C++ transition, because libGLU is implemented in C++. Keyword: implemented. All of GLU's interfaces are C, not C++, so

Re: Procedure reminders on updating a lib package for a C++ ABI change

2005-07-16 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:24:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Oh, ugh. I think the XSF was essentially following Ubuntu's lead here; no one realized, or thought to check, that the C++ bits weren't exported as part of the ABI. Ah... that was my guess... David, do you want me to put

Bug#287557: /usr/include/GL/GLwDrawAP.h should not be shipped

2005-03-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 02:51:01AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: This file is a private implementation file, therefore the P. I'm not sure I can honor this request and be consistent with existing Debian practice. Uhm... I meant that as in this particular case the file is named like

Bug#287608: Missing dependency on lesstif2-dev?

2005-03-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 03:06:44AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: the GLw library shipped with the xlibmesa-gl-dev package uses Motif (both 1.2 and 2), so some sort of dependency should be declared on lesstif2-dev (Depends, Suggests, Recommends). Can you elaborate, please? Sure

Bug#287557: /usr/include/GL/GLwDrawAP.h should not be shipped

2004-12-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Package: xlibmesa-gl-dev Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-9 Severity: normal File: /usr/include/GL/GLwDrawAP.h See subject. This file is a private implementation file, therefore the P. Marcelo PS: In case you are wondering if I have too much time in my hands, no, I don't. I was trying to figure

Bug#287608: Missing dependency on lesstif2-dev?

2004-12-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Package: xlibmesa-gl-dev Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-9 Severity: normal Hi, the GLw library shipped with the xlibmesa-gl-dev package uses Motif (both 1.2 and 2), so some sort of dependency should be declared on lesstif2-dev (Depends, Suggests, Recommends). Marcelo

Bug#287612: xlibosmesa4 must depend on xlibmesa-gl

2004-12-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Package: xlibosmesa4 Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-10 Severity: grave File: /usr/X11R6/lib/libOSMesa.so.4 Justification: renders package unusable Hi, perhaps serious is more appropriate, since it's the dependencies that are wrong. $ objdump -T /usr/X11R6/lib/libOSMesa.so.4.0 | grep UND | grep -v

Re: Future of X packages in Debian

2004-06-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 11:08:39AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: I think changing Debian's shipping sample implementation at this point, when we're -- err -- about to release would be a bad idea. LOL err... sorry... this is not -curiosa... I take that LOL back, my apologies. Marcelo

Bug#205916: general: opengl isn't running properly. can run glxgears and window shows but nothing in it.

2003-08-17 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
netbrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cant run anything that requires opengl, the programs will open but bothing will show. i consulted #debian at irc.debian.org and a bloke called penguin24 said it was a bug when compiling with a newer gcc. im a newbie so i don't know so much about it.

Bug#205916: general: opengl isn't running properly. can run glxgears and window shows but nothing in it.

2003-08-17 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
netbrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cant run anything that requires opengl, the programs will open but bothing will show. i consulted #debian at irc.debian.org and a bloke called penguin24 said it was a bug when compiling with a newer gcc. im a newbie so i don't know so much about it.

SGI FreeB license *still* not included in debian/copyright

2003-07-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Branden, Please Cc: me, I'm not subscribed. I'm seding this to the list because I want to have a public record of this. I have pointed this out several times over the last few years to you (e.g., bug#107149), and it seems this keeps coming back. Do this for me, will you? 0. Take the

SGI FreeB license *still* not included in debian/copyright

2003-07-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Branden, Please Cc: me, I'm not subscribed. I'm seding this to the list because I want to have a public record of this. I have pointed this out several times over the last few years to you (e.g., bug#107149), and it seems this keeps coming back. Do this for me, will you? 0. Take the

Bug#191737: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#191737: xinerama.h is missing extern C { for C++ compiling)

2003-05-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, but it's not Xinerama's problem, and I don't see why it should be bending over backwards to support people using it from another language. I certainly won't be including this patch in my tree. Because that's the polite way of coding C header

Bug#187365: xlibmesa3-glu: libraries not correctly linked

2003-05-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We could just as well ask why we bother to ship xlibmesa*, then. I would like to know why the answers to your question and the above should be different. The best answer I can come up with? Because someone is bound to create a CD which

Bug#187365: xlibmesa3-glu: libraries not correctly linked

2003-05-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because the libGL provided by mesag3 doesn't seem to be able to load the DRI drivers (though that might just be a matter of how it's built). Brian (?) mentioned something about building that capability on the mesa libraries a long time ago. I don't

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Package: xlibmesa-glu-dev Replaces: mesag-dev ( 5.0.0-1), [...] Replaces mesag-dev? What did I miss? -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Sven, On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 01:47:52PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Definitively, this improved the situation, but it still fails on alpha with : Error on dynamically loaded library: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1: symbol __gxx_personality_v0, version CXXABI_1.2 not defined in file

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 02:22:22PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: I removed all the xlibmesa packages, and tried to install the mesa packages. There is a mesa-dev packages, and libglu-mesa and libglu-mesa-dev packages, but no mesa 5.0.0 package providing libgl. Uhm... Package: mesag3

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 03:00:39PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Notice that apt-get install mesag-dev complains that mesa-common-dev is not going to be installed. Does it? I admit I have only installed the packages using dpkg -i ... I'll check what going on. That said, suppose i build my

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Package: xlibmesa-glu-dev Replaces: mesag-dev ( 5.0.0-1), [...] Replaces mesag-dev? What did I miss? -- Marcelo

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Sven, On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 01:47:52PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Definitively, this improved the situation, but it still fails on alpha with : Error on dynamically loaded library: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1: symbol __gxx_personality_v0, version CXXABI_1.2 not defined in file

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 02:22:22PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: I removed all the xlibmesa packages, and tried to install the mesa packages. There is a mesa-dev packages, and libglu-mesa and libglu-mesa-dev packages, but no mesa 5.0.0 package providing libgl. Uhm... Package: mesag3

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 02:50:25PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: BTW, why is mesag3 not called libgl-mesa ? And i agree that the 3 is more confusing than something else. The way I see it, people using mesa (instead of xlibmesa) have a reason for that and renaming the package would make

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 03:00:39PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Notice that apt-get install mesag-dev complains that mesa-common-dev is not going to be installed. Does it? I admit I have only installed the packages using dpkg -i ... I'll check what going on. That said, suppose i build my

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
I'm sorry about the somewhat out of place reply, but I wanted to point something out and this is most relevant place I could find. Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shared library packages carry part of the soname in their names so that multiple versions can be installed simultaneously.

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please do spell it out. If XFree86 didn't crib its GLU from the Mesa project, where did it come from? Mesa ships the same GLU as XFree86, and both come from the SGI OpenGL SI. Look in xc/extras/ogl-sample, e.g. README.XF86: This is an

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
I'm sorry about the somewhat out of place reply, but I wanted to point something out and this is most relevant place I could find. Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shared library packages carry part of the soname in their names so that multiple versions can be installed simultaneously.

Re: /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1

2003-02-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Please keep me on the Cc: chris horn. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: relocation error: /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1: undefined symbol: __gxx_personality_v0 That's mighty bad. That symbol comes from libstdc++ I get it with several applications (xawtv, xscreensaver and cube, to name a few). It

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-11 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:31:24PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: Sure, so isn't it funny that the current actual Mesa packages aren't called mesag5*? That's Marcelo's call. JFTR, no, I won't start calling these packages mesa5 (if I ever rename these package, rest assured that I'm going

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-11 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:52:35PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: The package version will be the same as for every other binary package that is generated by the XFree86 source package, so it can't be communicated there. JFYI, if that's the argument, you can start by renaming

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-11 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:01:20PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: JFYI, if that's the argument, you can start by renaming xlibmesa3-glu then. 3 is certainly not the major, minor or whatever version number of that library, since it doesn't really have anything to do with Mesa. It

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:31:24PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: Branden already answered you, and so did I. The significance lies in the major version. It's obviously meaningful to Mesa, if they continue to bump *major* versions, it must mean they're doing something pretty ... well, major,

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:05:54AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Merging Mesa 5 in the XFree86 tree will happen RSN XFree86 4.3.0 will not ship with Mesa 5. I forgot the smily :-) It will certainly take Internet ages. -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:14:57PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: You dodged my vital question again: lol, vital... some people take Debian too seriosly ;-) 'How is the major Mesa version number relevant for the xlibmesa package name?' It isn't. Going from memory, the changes between 3

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:31:24PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: Branden already answered you, and so did I. The significance lies in the major version. It's obviously meaningful to Mesa, if they continue to bump *major* versions, it must mean they're doing something pretty ... well, major,

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 09:27:28AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: Marcelo was wondering why I bumped the name to xlibmesa4-* for my packages, and I pointed out that having xlibmesa3-*, for Mesa 4, would be horrifically stupid and misleading. JFTR, no, I wasn't. Michel was courteous enough to

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:05:54AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Merging Mesa 5 in the XFree86 tree will happen RSN XFree86 4.3.0 will not ship with Mesa 5. I forgot the smily :-) It will certainly take Internet ages. -- Marcelo

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:14:57PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: You dodged my vital question again: lol, vital... some people take Debian too seriosly ;-) 'How is the major Mesa version number relevant for the xlibmesa package name?' It isn't. Going from memory, the changes between 3

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 09:27:28AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: Marcelo was wondering why I bumped the name to xlibmesa4-* for my packages, and I pointed out that having xlibmesa3-*, for Mesa 4, would be horrifically stupid and misleading. JFTR, no, I wasn't. Michel was courteous enough to

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 11:24:43AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: OK, so why don't you give me a hand instead of being obtuse for the hell of it. Why was the 3 there, originally? Heh. The Mesa packages used to provide a library called libMesaGL.so.3. At some point Brian (Paul) realized this

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 01:26:40AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: After some more thinking, xlibmesa-gl1 might be better because it allows xlibmesa-gl-dev to naturally keep its name. Personally I don't have strong feelings against changing the package names. It shouldn't break anything

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 11:24:43AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: OK, so why don't you give me a hand instead of being obtuse for the hell of it. Why was the 3 there, originally? Heh. The Mesa packages used to provide a library called libMesaGL.so.3. At some point Brian (Paul) realized this

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 01:26:40AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: After some more thinking, xlibmesa-gl1 might be better because it allows xlibmesa-gl-dev to naturally keep its name. Personally I don't have strong feelings against changing the package names. It shouldn't break anything

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Michel, thanks for the Cc: ... Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still don't get it. There's no incompatibility between xlibmesa3-gl, xlibmesa4-gl and xlibmesa5-gl to come, so what's the point of the different names? The worst thing IMHO is x-window-system-core

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 03:09:11PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: And because the autobuilders don't like virtual build dependencies, which is, i think, a worse problem. Please. That's a weak argument. If any package providing a virtual package is a good as the next one, you can pick anyone.

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shouldn't be a problem because nothing outside of the xfree86 source package should depend on the xlibmesa packages directly (or deal with it)? You just have to convince apt that replacing the then dissapeared foo3 by foo1 just because the later

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:00:23AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: The 3 in 4.2.1's xlibmesa packages, and hence the 4 in my 4.2.99.x xlibmesa packages, reflects the major version of Mesa used. uhm... why? That doesn't make any sense at all. -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:26:05AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: I'm not having packages with a misleading name. I'm keeping up status quo until I see a good reason to change current (and expected) behaviour. So far you haven't provided one. Neither have you. As per policy, that number

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 11:16:40AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: Why the Mesa packages carry a 3 is also historical baggage and most people seem to be unaware why that 3 is there in the first place. Yes, and it's been carried through. Like I said... most people are unaware of why that 3

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Michel, thanks for the Cc: ... Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still don't get it. There's no incompatibility between xlibmesa3-gl, xlibmesa4-gl and xlibmesa5-gl to come, so what's the point of the different names? The worst thing IMHO is x-window-system-core

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 03:09:11PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: And because the autobuilders don't like virtual build dependencies, which is, i think, a worse problem. Please. That's a weak argument. If any package providing a virtual package is a good as the next one, you can pick anyone.

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shouldn't be a problem because nothing outside of the xfree86 source package should depend on the xlibmesa packages directly (or deal with it)? You just have to convince apt that replacing the then dissapeared foo3 by foo1 just because the later

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:00:23AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: The 3 in 4.2.1's xlibmesa packages, and hence the 4 in my 4.2.99.x xlibmesa packages, reflects the major version of Mesa used. uhm... why? That doesn't make any sense at all. -- Marcelo

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:21:22AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: uhm... why? That doesn't make any sense at all. Hysterical raisins, presumably. The raisins explain the 3 but not the 4. -- Marcelo

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:26:05AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: I'm not having packages with a misleading name. I'm keeping up status quo until I see a good reason to change current (and expected) behaviour. So far you haven't provided one. Neither have you. As per policy, that number

Re: xlibmesa naming and relationships

2003-02-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 11:16:40AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: Why the Mesa packages carry a 3 is also historical baggage and most people seem to be unaware why that 3 is there in the first place. Yes, and it's been carried through. Like I said... most people are unaware of why that 3

Re: Bug#86179: Regarding bug 86179

2001-09-16 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can someone who doesn't speak English help the submitter of bug 86179 to make himself clear? Err... I guess you mean someone who speaks Japanese, but that's irrelevant. I think he's saying that if he logs in to the machine using xdm, the X

FYI: 4.1.0-0pre1v5 vs DRM vs linux 2.4.7

2001-07-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Attached is a series on messages from dri-users, the DRI users' list. Basically the DRM modules in 4.1.0 are not in sync with 2.4.7. I haven't checked, I don't use the mentioned .debs. It would be helpful if someone can deny or confirm this, as it would create more trouble for users trying to

Re: FYI: 4.1.0-0pre1v5 vs DRM vs linux 2.4.7

2001-07-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
[ Please observe Mail-Followup-To: if you don't mind, I susbcribe to *and* read debian-x, I don't need another copy on my inbox ] Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Basically the DRM modules in 4.1.0 are not in sync with 2.4.7. I THis is correct. 4.1.0 DRM and 4.0.3 are not

FYI: 4.1.0-0pre1v5 vs DRM vs linux 2.4.7

2001-07-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Attached is a series on messages from dri-users, the DRI users' list. Basically the DRM modules in 4.1.0 are not in sync with 2.4.7. I haven't checked, I don't use the mentioned .debs. It would be helpful if someone can deny or confirm this, as it would create more trouble for users trying to

Re: FYI: 4.1.0-0pre1v5 vs DRM vs linux 2.4.7

2001-07-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
[ Please observe Mail-Followup-To: if you don't mind, I susbcribe to *and* read debian-x, I don't need another copy on my inbox ] Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Basically the DRM modules in 4.1.0 are not in sync with 2.4.7. I THis is correct. 4.1.0 DRM and 4.0.3 are not

Re: Offlist Wishlist: DRI Kernel Modules

2001-07-18 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Warren Turkal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you all think you could package up the DRI kernel modules from the x source tree? I don't even know where to get them. http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/dri/ has the DRM sources for both 4.0.3 and 4.1.0. You'll also find a drm.patch file

Re: some Radeon feedback on 4.1.0-0pre1v1.3 ...

2001-06-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And no, run the latest and greatest kernel is not an option for most people. The current DRM code doesn't even build with 2.2 if you mean that. I know, but no, I don't mean that. In the current status some people just can't afford to

Re: some Radeon feedback on 4.1.0-0pre1v1.3 ...

2001-06-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.xfree86.org/~alanh/ until it's merged into the Linux kernel. Actually the xfree86 packages should provide a modules-dri-src kind of package. That would stop much of this madness. And no, run the latest and greatest kernel is not an

Re: some Radeon feedback on 4.1.0-0pre1v1.3 ...

2001-06-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And no, run the latest and greatest kernel is not an option for most people. The current DRM code doesn't even build with 2.2 if you mean that. I know, but no, I don't mean that. In the current status some people just can't afford to

Re: Debian X FAQ updated

2001-06-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if there is a reasonable key combination to type an acute accent (0xb4) on a (us) keyboard. If so, it wouldn't hurt to mention it. Multi_key,',' = ´, is the the correct character? -- Marcelo | If it wasn't for the fun and money, I

Re: Debian X FAQ updated

2001-06-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if there is a reasonable key combination to type an acute accent (0xb4) on a (us) keyboard. If so, it wouldn't hurt to mention it. Multi_key,',' = ´, is the the correct character? -- Marcelo | If it wasn't for the fun and money, I

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Jon Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Absolutely! This is what I meant to say. Oh, sorry, I missunderstood. Shipping the mesademos package in binary form does not make any sense. There are too many libGL implementations floating around for that. Actually, this is a tempting

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Jon Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Absolutely! This is what I meant to say. Oh, sorry, I missunderstood. Shipping the mesademos package in binary form does not make any sense. There are too many libGL implementations floating around for that. Actually, this is a tempting

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Zephaniah E. Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For instance gears is a /very/ standard benchmark Yes, I know, I'm hand picking a few of the programs to provide them as binaries... gears is, well, something someone early on picked as a benchmark because it's fillrate bound (more accurately,

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Jon Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like Zeph said, though, the packages are most useful in source *because* you can use different libGL implementations to compile them. As I understand it (and I'm probably wrong), libGL implementations vary in the DRI project from one family of

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Jon Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x32a): undefined reference to `OSMesaCreateContext' /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x35c): undefined reference to `OSMesaMakeCurrent' /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x4f5): undefined reference to `OSMesaDestroyContext' Hmmm... please submit

Re: Testing/mesademos

2001-04-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Jon Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x32a): undefined reference to `OSMesaCreateContext' /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x35c): undefined reference to `OSMesaMakeCurrent' /tmp/ccEMh1hu.o(.text+0x4f5): undefined reference to `OSMesaDestroyContext' Hmmm... please submit

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any trouble with an old matrox millenium (2Mo+2Mo)? Other than the fact that that card won't do any kind of hardware accelerated 3D rendering on Linux, no, it's a really good card. Still one of the best ones at what it does. Only G200 and up do

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any trouble with an old matrox millenium (2Mo+2Mo)? Other than the fact that that card won't do any kind of hardware accelerated 3D rendering on Linux, no, it's a really good card. Still one of the best ones at what it does. Only G200 and up do

Re: random sig 11 in 4.0.2

2001-03-25 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Seth Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Branden, also note that I would find the XFree86.?.log file more useful if it date-time stamped once in a while similar to crontab's --mark-- facility -- consider asking the good people at xf86 to add such a feature to help debugging. If the 1000

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-25 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Scott Dier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uh. uh. ah. uh. Are you trying to say that windowed opengl with multiple opengl contexts and 2d-apps side-by-side doesn't work on most pc cards? Nvidia cards do it fine. No. He's saying that you have to pay attention to what you are doing at the

Re: random sig 11 in 4.0.2

2001-03-25 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Seth Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Branden, also note that I would find the XFree86.?.log file more useful if it date-time stamped once in a while similar to crontab's --mark-- facility -- consider asking the good people at xf86 to add such a feature to help debugging. If the 1000

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-25 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Scott Dier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uh. uh. ah. uh. Are you trying to say that windowed opengl with multiple opengl contexts and 2d-apps side-by-side doesn't work on most pc cards? Nvidia cards do it fine. No. He's saying that you have to pay attention to what you are doing at the

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Alexander Hvostov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Package: mesag3-glide2 (debian/main) Maintainer: Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 74471 Open GL xscreensavers cause X to hang with 3DFX cards. I need help with this bug, I can't test

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: modes (which anyone who has seen me work in X knows I spend 30% of my time in 640x480 or lower due to unreadably small, aliased fonts in things like Netscape..) Just as a hint, Galeon let's you change the scaling of the fonts on a per page basis.

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Zephaniah E. Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You simply CAN NOT use mesag3-glide2 on a V3 with X4, it won't work. Uhm. Why? (if I'm going to be maintaining this, I'd like to know why it doesn't work with a specific setup, in particular, I'd like to know if this is a bug in mesa or a bug

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neither. It's that the X server and Glide2 would have to cooperate in order to let you do it. As of XFree4, X no longer knows how to talk to Glide2, but does know how to talk to Glide3. Evil, eh? Then why does it work for V1 and V2? What you

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Zephaniah E. Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver-dri. I would drop the xlibosmesa packages. libOSMesa is a software only client side off-screen rendering library. The 4

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
I'm sorry, I forgot one important bit. Zephaniah E. Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver-dri. You might want to provide

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Zephaniah E. Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It might be possible to get X to search a different module path first, but all examples of that turn out to be very ugly in the config file, I'll keep poking. Ah, yes, that's actually cleaner. For the X server, you could change the symlink in

Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-23 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
BugScan reporter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Package: mesag3-glide2 (debian/main) Maintainer: Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 74471 Open GL xscreensavers cause X to hang with 3DFX cards. I need help with this bug, I can't test this as I don't have TDFX hardware. -- Marcelo

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