Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A Question of Ethics

2003-02-27 Thread Dan Patnode
All, As I read your replies, 1984 plays on Showtime (I kid you not!). The main character just read a printed letter (prehistoric email) and promptly burned it in his desk side incinerator. Thank you for your thoughtful, candid, and emphatic responses. If I may wax philosophic (and

[Declude.JunkMail] Spam floods

2003-02-27 Thread Scott MacLean
doesn't get through. As well, it puts both CPUs in the server up to 100% rejecting the mail, slowing the server down for everyone else. SMTP logs are filled with thousands of entries like this: 20030227 091017 127.0.0.1 SMTPD (003A0640) [217.82.173.37] RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030227

RE: Re[2]: DSN:Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] A Question of Ethics

2003-02-27 Thread Darrell L.
I'll trust you on that, and apologize for the roundhouse classification. Yet in your several dozen cases where divorces were contemplated, employee terminations took place, even people who were sent back to prison and kids who have been grounded examples, clearly your

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam floods

2003-02-27 Thread R. Scott Perry
with a professional spammer-for-hire (who is also an idiot). Those IPs are real -- they are the IPs of servers that he has compromised. That's how he can send 20-30 messages a second. 20030227 091017 127.0.0.1 SMTPD (003A0640) [217.82.173.37] RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030227 091017 127.0.0.1

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] A Question of Ethics

2003-02-27 Thread Bill Naber
The recurring theme I'm seeing in this thread is a concern of being implicated in the misuse of the Declude (or similar) tools to punish someone wrongly. That's a valid concern. What's being left unsaid is a concern of previously established tools (such as high speed internet access and Email)

RE: Re[2]: DSN:Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] A Question of Ethics

2003-02-27 Thread Brian Milburn
On 02/27/03 9:32am you wrote... I'll trust you on that, and apologize for the roundhouse classification. Yet in your several dozen cases where divorces were contemplated, employee terminations took place, even people who were sent back to prison and kids who have been

RE: Re[2]: DSN:Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] A Question of Ethics

2003-02-27 Thread Keith Purtell
The term spyware refers to software whose sole purpose is to surreptitiously gather and transmit information about a user. A firewall log is a neutral record of general internet activity. Any reasonably informed adult who uses the internet should understand their actions may be logged, in the

RE: Re[2]: DSN:Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] A Question of Ethics

2003-02-27 Thread David Stavert
In a corporate setting a company may or may not have an Internet/email/conduct policy. If not, it may be very dificult to fire someone for conduct that they didn't agree to abide by and if it came to a lawsuit they would probably loose. In fact the company could loose twice. Once by someone who

RE: Re[2]: DSN:Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] A Question of Ethics

2003-02-27 Thread Dan Spangenberg
My feelings are along this same line. It seems that this questions revolves around what the stated company policy is regarding usage of these company resources. As stated in several emails before, email and internet usage and the computers they are used are are company owned assets and should be

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A Question of Ethics

2003-02-27 Thread Dan Patnode
Below is an overview of what I believe is most relevant to me (in reverse chronological order), thank you for helping me clarify a troubling situation!: I believe the fact that some employers may misuse information to mistreat employees is countered by the fact that some employees abuse the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam floods

2003-02-27 Thread David Delbridge
logs are filled with thousands of entries like this: 20030227 091017 127.0.0.1 SMTPD (003A0640) [217.82.173.37] RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030227 091017 127.0.0.1 SMTPD (003A0640) [217.82.173.37] ERR domain.com invalid user [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030227 091017 127.0.0.1 SMTPD