Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, After three days where the server would max out at 100% due to a lot of smtp32 processes but.. also where there were not so many smtp32 processes I have now tried to revert back to 1.65, was using 1.70i1. In the past few days I have reset the server several times but it would max out again

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
I see the same (with a very small domain and very light usage). The mail server is nowhere near the strongest, but is sometmies stressed with 1.70 (and was the same with 1.69b) but not 1.65. My recommendation for those that are experiencing this is to try adding a line "DECODE OFF" to the \IMail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi Scott, > >I see the same (with a very small domain and very light usage). The mail > >server is nowhere near the strongest, but is sometmies stressed with 1.70 > >(and was the same with 1.69b) but not 1.65. > > My recommendation for those that are experiencing this is to try adding a > line "D

[Declude.JunkMail] Request for new/enhanced feature

2003-06-05 Thread Eje Gustafsson
I keep getting mail that slipps through that IMO shouldn't be that hard to catch really... They use a variant of the html comments but the way they do it it don't get detected as a mail with to many html comments. Below is a snippet of example text inside the html formated e-mail : Penis Enlarge

[Declude.JunkMail] Stats on .biz, .us?

2003-06-05 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message Hi;   Is anyone keeping track or have any stats on the % of spam in:   .biz .us   domains?   From what I see it appears .biz and .us type domains have a higher probability of being SPAM as a percentage of legitimate emails with those domains.   Regards, Kami

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Stats on .biz, .us?

2003-06-05 Thread Hermann Strassner
Title: Message What do you mean? Mail from these domains or mail to these domains? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kami RazvanSent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:19 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Stats on

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-05 Thread Jools Chesters
I guess you would do checks on the negative weights first and then the positive and at any point a test goes above the threshold you would stop. Unless by adding all the positive tests together it would still be below threshold whereas you wouldn't need to do any positive tests (unlikely though).

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-05 Thread Charles Frolick
As an ISP we decide the best way to handle spam was to rank and tag so the user can decide, in this case we must have all tests process so that the rankings are accurate. If Scott's team were to add some mechanism to optionally process portions, that would be fine, at least his team understands th

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Stats on .biz, .us?

2003-06-05 Thread Kami Razvan
Mail from these domains.. Based on what I see .. email coming from email addresses with .biz or .us have a higher probability of being a spam than .com. Of course this is a matter of percentage. We don't receive that many emails with .biz but from what I see majority (if not all) emails with t

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COMMENTS test needs adjusting?

2003-06-05 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I think you need to skip attachments or at least make it an option in the CFG file. I have already discounted the use of BASE64 test because if there is a text attachment the test will be triggered. Why do you need full-mime support to skip attachments?? Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COMMENTS test needs adjusting?

2003-06-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
I think you need to skip attachments or at least make it an option in the CFG file. That's something that we are looking into. Note, however, that few anti-spam programs have full MIME support in them (Ipswitch doesn't for example). MIME decoding is very complex (it took Ipswitch years to get

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Stats on .biz, .us?

2003-06-05 Thread David Sullivan
Title: Message We're seeing more and more valid domains using .biz, .us and .info.  I think it's taking a while but they are finally starting to be adopted.   -David

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude on RAM Drive

2003-06-05 Thread David Sullivan
I posted this on the Declude Virus list and didn't get any response. (Hope is wasn't a stupid question :-). Anybody here have anything to offer? Thanks. -David >I just noticed on Declude site that it is compatible for use on a RAM drive. >Haven't used one of these since DOS but trying to squeeze

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude on RAM Drive

2003-06-05 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
IMO, RAM drives are best for page files and databases. John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sullivan > Sent: Wednesday, June

[Declude.JunkMail] Vote for Declude!

2003-06-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
Windows & .NET Magazine (which mentioned Declude JunkMail in their April, 2003 Enterprise Spam Filters Buyers Guide) is having a "Reader's Choice" vote, where you can let them know what software you think is the best in its class, and even which offer the best support. If you think that the Dec

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Vote for Declude!

2003-06-05 Thread Omar K.
Don't get scared the from the very long list, you don't have to vote on everything. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Vote for Declude!

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude on RAM Drive

2003-06-05 Thread Omar K.
Yeah, declude is not very much HDD IO intensive, CPU power is the key. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude on RAM Drive

[Declude.JunkMail] OSSRC problem

2003-06-05 Thread Todd Praski
This is an entry from today's dec.log file. There are others like it. 06/04/2003 12:09:23 Q27c20609028ae1d0 Msg failed OSSRC (This E-mail came from 207.44.129.132, a potential spam source listed in OSSRC.). Action=SUBJECT. Yet when I run the IP address in www.dnsstuff.com 's Spam Database L

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OSSRC problem

2003-06-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
This is an entry from today's dec.log file. There are others like it. 06/04/2003 12:09:23 Q27c20609028ae1d0 Msg failed OSSRC (This E-mail came from 207.44.129.132, a potential spam source listed in OSSRC.). Action=SUBJECT. Yet when I run the IP address in www.dnsstuff.com 's Spam Database L

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-05 Thread Rob Salmond
Charles: >They need to not be greedy matches or better yet support a very small set of rules, an overly simplified >engine could allow for word boundries and whitespace with optional letters and make word and phrase >filters much more powerful. I agree, regular expressions are somewhat more powerf

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OSSRC problem

2003-06-05 Thread Bill Landry
It probably just recently dropped out of the OSSRC database and possibly your DNS that JunkMail is using still has the old entry cached. Bill - Original Message - From: "Todd Praski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: [Declude.Junk

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Dan Patnode
Kami, I'm running ten IP4r tests, referred to in my original email as an "external DB query." There seems to be a descrepency between this as a cause and Scott's answer: > the Declude process should not show high CPU usage in this case. > Declude uses the "Sleep()" command, which giv

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Dan Patnode
Scott, The servers in question are not [yet] running Declude Virus so what happened should be a purely Declude JunkMail question. With as lean as Declude is, looks like the only way to test this is in the moment. During yesterdays "moment", it was tuff to sit by turning off one test at a time

[Declude.JunkMail] IP in Message Header

2003-06-05 Thread David Sullivan
Hi, Would this cause BADHEADERS failure for bogus Message ID? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (real IP changed to protect the guilty) I assume it's the IP address that's bogus? Thanks David --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
Assuming we're all talking about the same thing, Declude continues to run as a process waiting for replies from IP4r requests but does not consume much CPU time while doing so. That is correct. It should use very, very little CPU time while waiting for the results to come back. Does pulling o

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IP in Message Header

2003-06-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
Would this cause BADHEADERS failure for bogus Message ID? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (real IP changed to protect the guilty) I assume it's the IP address that's bogus? Yes, it would. That's not a valid Message-ID: header. Specifically, the RFCs require that if an IP address is used, it be in [bracke

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Kami Razvan
I truly wish I could explain it.. May be I am dreaming.. But what I see is Declude does not get to 100% CPU since we moved it to IMail to do IP4r. This morning for example I saw about 10 or so Declude processes.. One at 19%.. A lot at 0% and then jumping to 10% and going away some hit 100% for 1

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Frederick Samarelli
I have noticed that using the v1.65 I never see Declude use more the 45% CPU. Using 1.70 Beta I see Declude Max the CPU's 100% Has anyone else seen the same. Fred - Original Message - From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Newland
Kami, Is your DNS that IMAIL/Declude uses local to you? Or are you using an upstream DNS? That many IPV4 tests may warrant this. We noticed a large performance boost by using a DNS on the local LAN. Just a thought - Original Message - From: "Kami Razvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Stats on .biz, .us?

2003-06-05 Thread Dan Patnode
I played with a content body test for .biz/ and had FPs in no time. You can play with a low weight test with these, but their use will only increase with time. I treat them the same as .net/.org/.com, one [painfully slow] iteration at a time. Dan On Wednesday, June 4, 2003 6:19, Kami Razvan

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Dan Patnode
Thats interesting, I upgraded both of the problem servers to 1.70 two days (about 36 hours) before this hit. I'm going to see if I can switch back to 1.69iX to see if there is a difference. Dan On Wednesday, June 4, 2003 14:50, Frederick Samarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have noticed th

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi; Our DNS is local. Same IP range and 2 racks above the mail server. We are also using IMail 8 with the cache DNS option- if that makes a difference with our configuration it is hard to say. Regards, Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

[Declude.JunkMail] language limitation?

2003-06-05 Thread Jose Gosende
I'm not exactly sure how the JunkMail engine works, so I apologize in advance if this is a rookie question. Although JunkMail does a great job of catching English-based junk emails I still get very basic Spanish and Korean (I think) spam emails. So, does JunkMail catch non-English junk mail? Any ot

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] language limitation?

2003-06-05 Thread Kevin Bilbee
This leads me to ask a question? What char set(s)\Codepage(s) does junkmail support??? Example answer I am looking for would be UTF-8. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jose Gosende > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:15 PM >

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] language limitation?

2003-06-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
I'm not exactly sure how the JunkMail engine works, so I apologize in advance if this is a rookie question. Although JunkMail does a great job of catching English-based junk emails I still get very basic Spanish and Korean (I think) spam emails. So, does JunkMail catch non-English junk mail? Any o

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] language limitation?

2003-06-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
This leads me to ask a question? What char set(s)\Codepage(s) does junkmail support??? Example answer I am looking for would be UTF-8. You'll need to be more specific. Declude JunkMail will process the E-mails no matter what character set(s) they use. All of the Declude JunkMail processing shou

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Kami, just for the heck of it, turn off Imail DNS caching and see what happens. John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan > S

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Karen Oland
I see the same (with a very small domain and very light usage). The mail server is nowhere near the strongest, but is sometmies stressed with 1.70 (and was the same with 1.69b) but not 1.65. > -Original Message- > From: Frederick > I have noticed that using the v1.65 I never see Declude

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] language limitation?

2003-06-05 Thread Kevin Bilbee
That answers my question? Thank you. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] language limitation? >This leads me to ask a question?

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Ver 8 Upgrade from Ver 6.06a

2003-06-05 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Read the manual about the Anti-Spam settings so you can disable them until you want to enable them. Many people have had problems with messages being sent to the root address. John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com > -Original Message- > Fr