Please send Beer :-)
Barry
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jaworski
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 10:56 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and IMail 8.2
Heimir,
You may want to consider
Declude as a multi-threaded service sound very promising.
I agree. :)
It is something that I had wanted to see in Declude for a long time, and
was a logical progression for Declude, that will take care of many
issues. It should increase performance, and at the same time allow
E-mails that
RSP ...allow E-mails that are being processed to communicate with one
another
Curious. How do emails communicate with each other?
Darin.
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Sandy,
IMail improvements have caused resource contention issues. The pluggable
architecture remains in place as the interface between IMail and Declude.
There is now a very light weight Declude application that IMail spawns for
each message. It is the multi-threaded service that will process
I am looking for some trouble-shooting ideas. Our IP4R tests are Not
running, but all other tests seem to be running fine.
Imail 8.21, Declude 1.82
The below snip is from the Declude Junkmail log is Debug mode. Declude
Support confirms that the log shows the IP4R tests are Not running and
they
What happens if you nslookup from the imail/declude server to your
configured Nameservers and querry something?
Markus
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:29 PM
To:
There would be a main service thread witch would monitor the
status off all the worker threads..
basically, if the design were kept the way it is now (ie, declude called
on each delivery of a email)
declude starts. , isolates email, create worker threads to perform tests..
(ie, while
one
and threading is fun, you pretty much have everything in
place to communicate back and forth between processes.
allowing many instances of declude to talk to each other.
That's what I mean.
Maybe this will allow us also to have/create new functionality. For example
(I don't know if I'm the
I understand threading (I'm a software developer), but don't understand the
statement that the emails will communicate with each other. I was hoping
for some clarification on what that meant.
Darin.
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From: William Stillwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RSP ...allow E-mails that are being processed to communicate with one
another
Curious. How do emails communicate with each other?
Just to clarify, it's not the actual E-mails themselves doing the
communicating G, but the code that is processing each E-mail. By
having Declude run as a
While I don't see the guys at Declude drinking beer, I do see them updating
their website and marketing sales. Its a matter or priorities.
3 months may be acceptable for software development, but for a major bug I
do not see it as acceptable. And I don't think Scott would have ever let it
go
A little while back I wrote about how BADHEADERS and HELOBOGUS were
catching a lot of legit email. The same is true of CMDSPACE and
COMMENTS. This is what it says at declude.com
CMDSPACE:
The CMDSPACE test looks for a technical violation of the RFCs. This test
works very well because it
Are the dunhelo and blackip tests running? These aren't dns based tests.
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From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:29 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] IP4r Tests not running
I am looking for some
My users get a lot of legit emails that get flagged with both these and
then end up with a weight of 12 and get put in their bulk folder. I mean
a lot. Just regular emails sent from Aetna.com, Principal.com, other big
insurance carriers. Should I reduce the weight of them? Are they working
Thanks. How do I increase the COMMENT threshhold?
Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
My users get a lot of legit emails that get flagged with both these
and then end up with a weight of 12 and get put in their bulk
folder. I mean a lot. Just regular emails sent from Aetna.com,
By the way, I do use WHITELIST AUTH for my own users, but the CMDSPACE
test flags emails sent from other people to our users. So I guess I
don't understand how WHITELIST AUTH would help in that situation.
Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
My users get a lot of legit emails that get flagged
Kevin,
The comments test is defined as
COMMENTS comments a x b 0
where a = the number of comments that are required to add b amount of
weight to the message.
Darrell
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invURIBL - Intelligent URI filtering. Stops 85% of SPAM with
Generally in regards to this test poorly written spam software and some non
compliant clients fail this test - but legit mail servers often do not. Up
to this point I have not seen a false positive from a legit mail server.
Have others? Usually folks sending mail to you will push it through
Right, we only see it from Outlook and Outlook Express clients that send
directly to our mail servers. Our users have WHITELIST AUTH, so this
detects mailers that don't send through another mail server, but connect to
us directly.
This tends to be mostly spam, but we do have a special whitelist
I weight CMDSPACE at 40 (subject tag at 100, hold at 200, delete at 300).
I show about a 3% false positive rate which includes some list servers. Also
seems to tend combine with helo-bogus and spamheaders hits.
It did detect 43% of all spams here.
I don't use comments...
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So Darrell, what do you have the number of comments that are required set
for?
I actually stopped using comments because of too many false positives.
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From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, August 24,
I'm looking for some feedback on using declude with smartermail. Is anybody
running that combination?
How is it working and how is the performance?
Have you encountered any problems or shortcomings? Would you recommend
Declude to smartermail administrators?
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Biggest issues is the lack of WHITELIST AUTH. I confirmed last week with
SMarterMail that that functionality will be available in the 3.0 version du
out later this year.
Kevin Bilbee
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Scott,
I have mine set to 10.
Darrell
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG
Integration, and Log Parsers.
That is a big gaping hole in my opinion. Guess I'll look for another
solution as I don't think I can wait for declude to get around to fixing
this oversight.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Uh, it is not a Declude issue but rather SmarterMail does not support it.
John T
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:18 PM
To:
This is not an oversight in Declude as the functionality is there in imail
but in SmarterMail not passing the auth info to Declude.
There is nothing Declude can do until SmarterMail supplies the data to
Declude.
Declude and SmarterMail have both stated it will be available with
SmarterMail 3.x
I think you have this backwards: the hang-up here isn't Declude, it's
SmarterMail. I'm very interested in SmarterMail myself, but I'm not even
going to try a trial until they add the AUTH feature.
Ben
BC Web
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From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I copied the global.cfg and deleted every test except Spamcop. I put
that global.cfg in production, with Logging Debug. The log showed:
'08/24/2005 19:24:27.077 Q0fa700978875 Test #0: SPAMCOP [ip4r] -
may skip-1' There was no indication in the log that the test ever ran
for several messages.
This is not a Declude issue, but a SmarterMail issue.
John T
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:18 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE:
I was looking through my reports and found that
around the end ofJune the number of email that failed the REVDNS test went
way up.
Juneand earlier it was common to have 20% -
25% of mail trip this test. July on I am seeing 70% - 90% of all email
fail.
We had not made any changes that I am
Title: Message
Look
atthen DNS server that declude uses
Kevin
Bilbee
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On Behalf Of ToddSent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:16
PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject:
[Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS
A few questions that may help shed light on the problem...
Which versions of IMail and Declude are you running?
Do the logs in DEBUG mode show anything regarding the DNS lookups?
Can you do these DNS lookups manually at a command prompt on the server?
Darin.
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From:
C:\nslookup yahoo.com localhost
Server: localhost
Address: 127.0.0.1
Non-authoritative answer:
Name:yahoo.com
Addresses: 66.94.234.13, 216.109.112.135
C:\
C:\nslookup august.net localhost
Server: localhost
Address: 127.0.0.1
Name:august.net
Address: 216.87.129.110
C:\
Up to this point I have not
seen a false positive from a legit mail server.
Have others?
Yes.
Older version of Tobit Infocenter has failed CMDSPACE. I've send them some
informations about the effectiveness of the CMDSPACE test and as I know they
have changed their MTA in never releases.
No. They are not running either.
Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 10:43:57 AM, Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SF Are the dunhelo and blackip tests running? These aren't dns based tests.
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SF From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SF To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
SF
I've been using Declude with SmarterMail for about six weeks. I'm generally
pleased with the results except for some minor problems.
Two problems that I've run into that I can't seem to get resolution from
Declude support are:
1. When certain spams are sent to multiple addresses on the
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