Here are my observations/thoughts/conclusions/3 1/2 cents: (When I say
Declude, I am talking about the company as a whole.)
1. David Barker is in the position of being in the middle of all of this. As
such, nothing should be directed at David directly personally. He is doing
the best he can with
I believe the explanation that everyone is looking for with this revenue
sharing piece is there is a difference between revenue boosting, and
revenue saving.
With all the competition from the major players in our market today, we
constantly have to integrate new services at no additional price
Hi
We're not a service provider (but I love and value the fact that all of you
are!)
Rob
What I find particularly amusing is the line Restrictions apply to service
providers. If there is anyone subscribed to this mailing list who is not
a service provider, please raise your hand.
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No action should be taken on SoftFail, so this record is fine. Hard fail is
the only result that should be taken action on currently, and the only one
that really protects from abuse by spammers. However, I would advise making
sure all sending IPs are listed to avoid confusion.
Darin.
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Kevin,
It would probably help for you to take a course or read a book on business
accounting. There are cost centers, and revenue-generating centers.
Sometimes it may be a judgement call as to where one item goes, as in spam
filtering, but it is the business's call as to how they structure their
Title: Message
While customers arereferred to us for our
spam/virus filtering capabilities, we do operate it as a cost center, as the
labor and other expenses involved areslightly higher than the additional
revenue generated from them.
Darin.
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From: Glenn \
Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 2:01:41 PM, R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Contrary to your comments on the use of this forum, it has always
RSP been for all things Declude when Scott
was the sole player he never complained about the conversation
RSP threads. Positive or negative. I think
Revenue sharing is a sales ploy and for all practical purposes doesn't
really exist in the accounting world. For instance, if we pay a
royalty or a commission on a sale, that payment goes into expenses on
the PL statement.
I guess you could say that all expenses share revenue, assuming there
are
Title: Message
Hi,
Let me make a few
observations:
- if it wasn't for
the discussion on business policy, this list would not be busy at all. In fact,
I note that I seldom see any new technical issues being
discussed.
- I understand that
people from either side of the fence have various
Well then if your profit is negative and they wish to share in it, then they
owe you money right??
: )
Marc
-- Original Message --
From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:39:52 -0400
I'd like to break the flow of the current discussion and circle back a
number of posts to ask a question.
I'm not familiar with either Razor or Cloudmark and Bill's mention of that
service caught me unprepared. How does Razor fit into your analysis? Do you
need SA or something similar to invoke
Title: Message
This has been a great thread to follow and I just want
to add my two cents worth.
At the moment the whole issue of spam filtering is
quite complex. Declude's configuration requires constant tweaking it
seams. That translates into labour.
If Declude can somehow manage to
Here is what I want to see in the spam filtering solution.
1) The ability to automatically create a spam/junkmail folder at the user
level whenever a newuser is created.
2) The ability to route items marked as spam to that folder at the user
level.
3) The ability to delete items from the spam
Product: Declude Security Suite 4.x
Function: Hijack
Hijack is critical to ISPs today because viruses can show up at any time
and get your server on a blacklist before you can detect and react.
Problem #1 - After a customer has cleaned out their PC and removed the
virus, there must be a
Mike,
The operation of Hijack is under review, thank you for your suggestions.
David B
www.declude.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:46 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject:
Mike, on problem 2, have you verified this? Decludeproc does indeed create a
file in the Imail\Declude directory for use with Hijack. As for clearing an
IP, I wonder if editing that file by removing the IP would clear it.
Declude?
John T
eServices For You
Seek, and ye shall find!
A book on accounting is not necessary. I am very familiar with cost centers. It
is a fact that removing cost centers can cost a business revenue. So if a small
ISP removes spam filtering from their offerings then their customers that want
a one stop shop will go elsewhere.
It is a balancing
When Decludeproc is restart the list of IP's maintained my hijack are reset.
David B
www.declude.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(Lists)
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:00 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE:
Also it would be nice for it to optionally send an email to the postmaster
(or whoever) when hold1 level reached and especially when hold2 level
reached.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:49 PM
The file Console.txt seems to be write-only; it is useful for finding out
what's going on, but I don't think it's possible to edit and have
DecludeProc reread it unless it is just not documented some how.
[Console.txt is displayed by the WebConfiguration GUI]
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I know this belongs on the IMAIL forum but I'm not subscribed there --
apologies in advance.
Does anyone know of a way to globally disable the information manager so I
can prevent users from setting up auto-responders?
Thx
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This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To
Check the archives for an old solution for hold notification.
There is a vbs script that will do what your looking for.
I have scheduled every 15 min. If there are any files in hold2, it emails
me.
I use something similar for the outgoing queue in case of a backup.
The issue of outgoing mail has
But from an accounting perspective, no revenue is directly generated by
them. Thus, no revenue to share from a cost center.
So how much revenue do you attach to your electric bill? There are a
million subjective ways to attach revenue to cost, and every business will
have different nuances in
Responding to 2 posts.
When Decludeproc is restart the list of IP's maintained my hijack are
reset.
I thought the purpose of the file was to retain IPs even when Decludeproc
was restarted or stopped and then started. If not, I would like to suggest
this.
The file Console.txt seems to be
--Raised Hand--
-- Original Message --
From: Gary Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:20:56 -0400
Basically you are telling me to ignore the Add Commtouch part of your web page
that shows
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