RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer IP Reputation -- Graduated Weight Scheme

2010-05-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave, I'm breaking this into two discussions as they are two different topics. The REAL point of Pete's input (and my suggestion) for SNFIPREP is that the reputation scale of -1 through +1 should NOT just result in either ONE positive or ONE negative weight option. Your example:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer "BasePoint"

2010-05-03 Thread David Barker
What you said. Yes (4/30 = Friday, this is why we don't buy cars made on a Friday) so the results would be the same except for the 0 BASEPOINT which means a not-triggered for -5 I will add the ability of using a negative weight for the BASEPOINT as this gives customers more flexibility on w

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer "BasePoint"

2010-05-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave, Let's keep the BasePoint a separate discussion. Here's what you sent on 4/30: (SNIFFER RETURN) x 10 - (BASEPOINT) = Result So - since "left" of zero (negative) are the good reputation and "right" of zero (positive) are bad reputation, and you are subtracting the basepoint (

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer IP Reputation for "white" listing

2010-05-03 Thread David Barker
As Pete already provided input on this. I am not going to prolix the answer other than to say when implementing Message Sniffer we abided by the Pete's advice "Since many legitimate ISPs also produce a lot of spam it might be useful to apply a bias to this weight so that these systems appear closer

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SNFIP option for "WHITE"?

2010-05-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Excellent - THANKS! -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 2:44 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SNFIP option for "WHITE"? The exit codes are as follows: Unknown = 0

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SNFIP option for "WHITE"?

2010-05-03 Thread David Barker
The exit codes are as follows: Unknown = 0 White = 1 Normal = 2 New = 3 Caution = 4 Black = 5 Truncate = 6 The format in Declude would be. TESTNAMETESTTYPEX EXITCODEWEIGHT-TRIGGERED WEIGHT-NOTTRIGGED SNFIPWHITE SNFIP X 1 -50

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reporting of Tests Failed Incomplete?

2010-05-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave, Thanks - I don't want to upset your development schedule (naturally, I can cope with things as they are) - just wanted to make sure it's on someone else list . Best Regards, Andy From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Monday, May

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Integration -> Multiple Exit Codes

2010-05-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave (just in case this one got lost), >> Also even though there are multiple entries the test only runs once and the resulted exit code is the triggered. << I know that all 18 "SNF" rule lines only require one invocation of Sniffer - which are then evaluated 18 different way. Fair enough.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reporting of Tests Failed Incomplete?

2010-05-03 Thread David Barker
I will check with engineering. If this is an easy change I will get it in an interim soon, also with the "nonzero" for SNF as we discussed in an earlier thread. From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:10 PM To: declude.junkm

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reporting of Tests Failed Incomplete?

2010-05-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave, I agree with you that the total weight of 9 is correct (I had already "piecemealed" that arithmetic together in my msg). >> As Commtouch Zerohour was implemented differently that regular tests (because it runs as part of the AV code) it is not listed in this log line. Agreed it sh

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Enumerating and Weighting IP4R/RHSBL/DNSBL tests

2010-05-03 Thread Scott Fisher
-Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Jim Comerford Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:45 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Enumerating and Weighting IP4R/RHSBL/DNSBL te

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reporting of Tests Failed Incomplete?

2010-05-03 Thread David Barker
The Tests failed (Triggered) showing tests that ARE triggered. In this case: Tests failed [weight=9]: SPFPASS=IGNORE[-2] CONTENT=IGNORE[7] ZEROHOUR=WEIGHT[6] Total: 11 As nIPNOTINMX:-2 is NOT triggered it cannot be in the same list of emails that ARE triggered, providing the -2

[Declude.JunkMail] Reporting of Tests Failed Incomplete?

2010-05-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave, I do have SOME tests suppressed from the SMTP headers: HIDETESTS CATCHALLMAILS IPNOTINMX NOLEGITCONTENT WEIGHTKILL2 WEIGHT8 WEIGHT10 WEIGHTHDR WEIGHTFOOTER NJABL AHBL SORBS SENDERDB WEIGHTGATEWAY So the SMTP header looks correct - and the weight of 9 is accurate: