Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Jeffrey Lichtman
I don't have my copy of the X3H2 SQL standard in front of me, but as I remember, the rule for unique constraints is that the uniqueness is applied only to non-null values. The standard is not available on-line (ANSI/ISO protects its copyright vigorously), but I did find a web site that backs me

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Øystein Grøvlen
> "MJS" == Michael J Segel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MJS> By the definition of a UNIQUE TABLE CONSTRAINT, I should get MJS> only a single row returned when I query on the tuple that are MJS> part of the defined constraint. This is generally not true. It is only true for equalit

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Michael J. Segel
On Thursday 27 October 2005 15:54, Daniel John Debrunner wrote: > > Sigh. > > Ok, so you want to play with cats? > > What is NULL? > > > > That was a rhetorical question. > > > > Here's a more practical approach and why its a bug. > > > > By the definition of a UNIQUE TABLE CONSTRAINT, I should ge

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Dan Meany
DB2, at least with the version/settings we have, seems to be able to do a CREATE UNIQUE INDEX WHERE NOT NULL, but not MS SQL Server. Here's a further discussion of this topic... http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/davidm/archive/2004/05/21/1364.aspx

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Michael J. Segel wrote: > On Thursday 27 October 2005 13:44, Daniel John Debrunner wrote: > > >>>But Dan's reply is an interesting one. >>> >>>What Sybase did was create a Schrodinger's Cat. >>>(See http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci341236,00.html >>>for a definition... ;-) >>>

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Michael J. Segel
On Thursday 27 October 2005 13:44, Daniel John Debrunner wrote: > > But Dan's reply is an interesting one. > > > > What Sybase did was create a Schrodinger's Cat. > > (See http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci341236,00.html > > for a definition... ;-) > > > > This is actually a bug i

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Michael J. Segel wrote: > On Thursday 27 October 2005 11:01, Rick Hillegas wrote: > >>Thanks, Michael. You are correct, Derby, like DB2, finesses this issue >>by not allowing nullable columns in unique constraints. I have closed >>this bug. >> >>Cheers, >>-Rick >> > > NP, > > But Dan's reply is

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Michael J. Segel
On Thursday 27 October 2005 11:01, Rick Hillegas wrote: > Thanks, Michael. You are correct, Derby, like DB2, finesses this issue > by not allowing nullable columns in unique constraints. I have closed > this bug. > > Cheers, > -Rick > NP, But Dan's reply is an interesting one. What Sybase did was

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, Michael. You are correct, Derby, like DB2, finesses this issue by not allowing nullable columns in unique constraints. I have closed this bug. Cheers, -Rick Michael J. Segel wrote: On Wednesday 26 October 2005 19:22, Rick Hillegas wrote: Sorry to top post... Sigh. Seems that some a

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Dan Meany
Sybase happens to work that way (but MS SQL Server does not appear to), that is a constraint can be on nullable columns, and if they contain nulls, they do not participate in the uniqueness constraint. I don't know if this is desirable or not. I understand Derby is a different database which may

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Michael J. Segel
On Thursday 27 October 2005 07:40, Dan Meany wrote: > The posted code does not provide a workaround as it > does not allow duplicate rows with nulls: > > INSERT INTO foo VALUES (6, NULL); > INSERT INTO foo VALUES (6, NULL); <-- this fails > > Error: org.apache.derby.client.am.SqlException: The > s

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-27 Thread Dan Meany
The posted code does not provide a workaround as it does not allow duplicate rows with nulls: INSERT INTO foo VALUES (6, NULL); INSERT INTO foo VALUES (6, NULL); <-- this fails Error: org.apache.derby.client.am.SqlException: The statement was aborted because it would have caused a duplicate key

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-26 Thread Michael J. Segel
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 19:22, Rick Hillegas wrote: Sorry to top post... Sigh. Seems that some are quick to pull the trigger and call everything they see a bug! This is not a bug. ;-) Its a design issue. I'm sure that this distinction is going to be lost on a couple of people, and it goe

Re: Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Dan, I believe that the Sybase behavior is correct. I have logged bug 653 to track this issue. Regards, -Rick Dan Meany wrote: I noticed that in Derby a unique constraint on two columns A and B, with B nullable, will prevent inserting two identical records that contain NULL in B. This i

Unique constraints on multiple fields with one nullable

2005-10-26 Thread Dan Meany
I noticed that in Derby a unique constraint on two columns A and B, with B nullable, will prevent inserting two identical records that contain NULL in B. This is different from some other databases such as Sybase that do allow it (I assume where the null records are not in stored as part of the un