[libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
Italo Vignoli-6 wrote > On 13/01/16 14:35, V Stuart Foote wrote: >> Feel any better after that rant? > > Sorry, it was not a rant, because the situation - as it is - is > unacceptable for serious Impress users, who have not been even asked > before changing the UI of the application they use most.

Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Takeshi Abe
Hi, On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 16:24:26 +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote: > On 13/01/16 16:07, Cor Nouws wrote: >> If you activate View > Modes Tab Bar, it should be visible in any other >> presentation that you open afterward. >> If not, file a bug please. Done: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.c

Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 13/01/16 16:07, Cor Nouws wrote: > It is not off by default. Anyway not for me in a fresh installation. Yes, the toggle icon is off by default, as described in the release notes (where I discovered the existence of the toggle icon, which is not mentioned anywhere else). > If you activate View

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 13/01/16 14:35, V Stuart Foote wrote: > Feel any better after that rant? Sorry, it was not a rant, because the situation - as it is - is unacceptable for serious Impress users, who have not been even asked before changing the UI of the application they use most. They are not subscribed to the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Italo Vignoli wrote on 13-01-16 14:01: > The toggle icon is off by default. I have now turned it on by default, It is not off by default. Anyway not for me in a fresh installation. > but I have to activate the bar in every presentation (and I usually have > at least a dozen presentation opened a

[libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
Italo, Feel any better after that rant? Simple fact is the Impress View Mode was refactored and reworked here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=229fc164dc1773484b74eca016863cf68860e81b with review in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16723/ It was discussed during severa

Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 13/01/16 12:58, Cor Nouws wrote: > The icon Display Mode is visible by default for me. > (With a clean user profile. If you changed anything in the tool bar in a > previous LibreOffice version, there is a good chance that stuff newly > introduced in 5.1 will not be shown). The toggle icon is o

Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Italo, Italo Vignoli wrote on 13-01-16 10:13: > Impress power users rely on the mode toolbar as one of the most > frequently accessed commands. In my opinion, hiding it by default is a > huge problem (I went back to LibreOffice 5.0 because of it). It is not a toolbar, but the tab bar in View >

Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
Anyway, if the situation does not change, I will file a bug. This is a blocker for Impress power users (and who has modified the behavior is definitely not an Impress user, because this is the most useless "improvement" I have ever seen). Italo Vignoli it...@libreoffice.org Mobile +39.348.565

Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
No, it is rather clear that I am speaking about Mode Toolbar (switch view between Slide, Notes, Outline and Slide Sorter), or the bar that used to be on top of the work area. Italo Vignoli it...@libreoffice.org Mobile +39.348.5653829 sent from mobile Il 13 gennaio 2016 11:01:28 AM Heiko Tietz

Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Philippe Jung
I think this is about display mode Philippe Le 13 janvier 2016 11:01:19 CET, Heiko Tietze a écrit : >You are talking about mode toolbar with Rotate, Flip, 3D Rotation, >Circle >perspective etc.? Cannot imagine that many people use it for >presentations, >but maybe when Impress is the tool for dr

Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Heiko Tietze
You are talking about mode toolbar with Rotate, Flip, 3D Rotation, Circle perspective etc.? Cannot imagine that many people use it for presentations, but maybe when Impress is the tool for drawing scenes. Anyway, you can enable the toolbar via View > Toolbars and dock it somewhere (or you customize

[libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
Impress power users rely on the mode toolbar as one of the most frequently accessed commands. In my opinion, hiding it by default is a huge problem (I went back to LibreOffice 5.0 because of it). We should at least have the toggle icon on by default, although it is not the ideal solution as the rea