Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 15 septembre 2007, à 21:44 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : Ok, lets be fair: most people who care about hacking on GNOME already know git, why should other options be selected? I don't think it is fair to state this. A lot of people certainly care about hacking on GNOME and don't

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Mikael Hallendal
16 sep 2007 kl. 04.40 skrev Curtis Hovey: On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 21:44 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 01:10 +0200, Ali Sabil wrote: - Keith Packard did a fairly extensive research of which DSCM system to use for xorg and other fd.o projects, from a storage robustness

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread John Carr
On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 18:26 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 21:31 +0200, Ali Sabil wrote: I am wondering why discussion is continuing in the Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?) thread, why the discussion is not happening here instead ?! I don't want to offend

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Philip Withnall
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 09:10 +0100, John Carr wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 18:26 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 21:31 +0200, Ali Sabil wrote: I am wondering why discussion is continuing in the Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?) thread, why the discussion is not

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread John Carr
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 09:42 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le samedi 15 septembre 2007, à 21:44 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : Ok, lets be fair: most people who care about hacking on GNOME already know git, why should other options be selected? I don't think it is fair to state this. A lot

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2007/9/16, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, lets be fair: most people who care about hacking on GNOME already know git, why should other options be selected? Seriously, kernel is using it, freedesktop.org is using it, and KDE is considering it. Git is one of those ones you need to

Re: Why have a ChangeLog file if you already have commit messages?

2007-09-16 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 00:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: Hi Talking to Daniel Cheese Siegel we asked ourselves: Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file? Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message. The problem is that centralised RCSs make it hard (no network, or network

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Ali Sabil
On 9/16/07, Mikael Hallendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 16 sep 2007 kl. 04.40 skrev Curtis Hovey: On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 21:44 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 01:10 +0200, Ali Sabil wrote: - Keith Packard did a fairly extensive research of which DSCM system to use

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Ali Sabil
I don't think choosing git just because others did is a good way of making choices in general. Although I agree with you to some extend that choosing the same than freedesktop makes some sense to keep the toolchain smaller. I think that an impartial decision has to be made. I wonder if

Re: Why have a ChangeLog file if you already have commit messages?

2007-09-16 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi, In Gnome Scan, i generate ChangeLog using svn2cl. See http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gnome-scan/trunk/Makefile.am and ChangeLog: target. I also generate TODO from anjuta TODO.tasks. Note that generating ChangeLog makes it lag one commit behind. You have to commit and then update the ChangeLog.

Re: Argh.. Novell people imports external translations again

2007-09-16 Thread Christian Rose
On 9/16/07, Clytie Siddall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/09/2007, at 10:37 AM, Jorge González González wrote: El dom, 16-09-2007 a las 00:26 +0200, Vincent Untz escribió: I've reverted all the po files to revision 338 (ie, before this commit), except for gl, pt_BR and sv which were

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 09:10 +0100, John Carr wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 18:26 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 21:31 +0200, Ali Sabil wrote: I am wondering why discussion is continuing in the Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?) thread, why the discussion is not

Re: Why have a ChangeLog file if you already have commit messages?

2007-09-16 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 14:00 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: Hi, In Gnome Scan, i generate ChangeLog using svn2cl. See http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gnome-scan/trunk/Makefile.am and ChangeLog: target. I also generate TODO from anjuta TODO.tasks. Note that generating ChangeLog makes it lag one commit

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 09:42 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le samedi 15 septembre 2007, à 21:44 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : Ok, lets be fair: most people who care about hacking on GNOME already know git, why should other options be selected? I don't think it is fair to state this. A lot

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Germán Poó Caamaño
On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 21:44 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 01:10 +0200, Ali Sabil wrote: I am also afraid that we might be just becoming nothing more but geek fashion addicts trying to follow the latest RCS tendency without really building solid and constructive

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Elijah Newren
On 9/16/07, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le samedi 15 septembre 2007, à 21:44 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : Ok, lets be fair: most people who care about hacking on GNOME already know git, why should other options be selected? I don't think it is fair to state this. A lot of

Re: Argh.. Novell people imports external translations again

2007-09-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 03:13:58PM +0200, Christian Rose wrote: This is really different -- a Novell developer committing several dozens of po files[1] without permission to SVN, in effect directly altering upstream's sources without permission. Now that's a big oops. This seems resolved, but

Re: Why have a ChangeLog file if you already have commit messages?

2007-09-16 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, On 9/15/07, Jaap Haitsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talking to Daniel Cheese Siegel we asked ourselves: Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file? Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message. When I've seen projects just dump CVS or SVN log to ChangeLog, typically the

Re: Why have a ChangeLog file if you already have commit messages?

2007-09-16 Thread Sanford Armstrong
On 9/16/07, Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On 9/15/07, Jaap Haitsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talking to Daniel Cheese Siegel we asked ourselves: Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file? Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message. When I've seen