Re: First release of geocode-glib available

2011-05-16 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 05/16/2011 01:42 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 12:44 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote: On 05/14/2011 11:24 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: The fact that we have only one implementation means that we have one well maintained implementation. I don't think it's much of a problem. Do yo

Re: language/locale selector [was: Re: Settings downstream would reasonably want to add]

2011-05-16 Thread Martin Pitt
Lennart Poettering [2011-05-16 19:33 +0200]: > Well, I think the different "smaller" system settings we want to make > configurable, like the system locale, or the hostname or the timezone > probably all need a tiny bit of intelligence on the server side, in > order to ensure compat and provide cha

Travel assistance applications to attend Desktop Summit 2011

2011-05-16 Thread Bharath Acharya
Hello All, The GNOME Foundation provides travel sponsorships to individuals who want to attend Desktop Summit and need financial assistance. We are happy to announce the Travel Committee is ready to receive applications for sponsorships to attend Desktop Summit 2011. This year, The Desktop Summit

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-16 Thread Robert Ancell
On 14 May 2011 00:45, Florian Müllner wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 14:59 +0200, Robert Ancell wrote: >> Why replace GDM? >> >> - LightDM is a cross-platform solution. > > Will KDE replace kdm with LightDM or drop its non-greeter code in favor > of LightDM? Are there any interesting discussions i

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-16 Thread Robert Ancell
On 14 May 2011 14:38, Fernando Herrera wrote: > Wops, I moved the conversation offlist. Getting back to d-d-l. > > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Robert Ancell > wrote: >> On 13 May 2011 15:56, Fernando Herrera wrote: >>> What about starting AT applications like orca to use them to interact w

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-16 Thread Robert Ancell
On 14 May 2011 00:19, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert Ancell > wrote: > >> >> I was not going to propose this project because I am sick of this sort >> of unprofessional response, especially from leaders in the community. >> It was the insistence of other leader

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-16 Thread Robert Ancell
On 13 May 2011 21:33, Ray Strode wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Robert Ancell > wrote: Note that LightDM is not lighter in features, but in architecture. >>> And a different focus, right? GDM is firmly a GNOME project, designed >>> to integrate and work well with GNOME.  

Re: language/locale selector [was: Re: Settings downstream would easonably want to add]

2011-05-16 Thread Ross Burton
On Monday, 16 May 2011 at 19:20, Lennart Poettering wrote: AFAIK (and I may be wrong), but that's part of its "am I really > > online" ping to connman.net, which acts as a captive portal detection. > > The response packet contains a continent, or something. > > Oh my. Conmann phones home? This ge

Re: language/locale selector [was: Re: Settings downstream would reasonably want to add]

2011-05-16 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 20:20 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 16.05.11 18:44, Ross Burton (r...@burtonini.com) wrote: > > > > > On 16 May 2011 18:22, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > conmann also does geoloc? Is there something it doesn't do? Sounds > > > almost as crazy as systemd ;-) >

Re: language/locale selector [was: Re: Settings downstream would reasonably want to add]

2011-05-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 16.05.11 18:44, Ross Burton (r...@burtonini.com) wrote: > > On 16 May 2011 18:22, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > conmann also does geoloc? Is there something it doesn't do? Sounds > > almost as crazy as systemd ;-) > > AFAIK (and I may be wrong), but that's part of its "am I really > onl

Re: Online Accounts panel for 3.2

2011-05-16 Thread Will Thompson
On 16/05/11 18:20, David Zeuthen wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Will Thompson > wrote: >>> that your mail application can use. For Chat, my thinking is that we >>> could have something similar e.g. >>> >>> GetAuthenticatedXmppConnection (OUT h file_descriptor); >>> >>> that T

Re: language/locale selector [was: Re: Settings downstream would reasonably want to add]

2011-05-16 Thread Ross Burton
On 16 May 2011 18:22, Lennart Poettering wrote: > conmann also does geoloc? Is there something it doesn't do? Sounds > almost as crazy as systemd ;-) AFAIK (and I may be wrong), but that's part of its "am I really online" ping to connman.net, which acts as a captive portal detection. The respons

Re: language/locale selector [was: Re: Settings downstream would reasonably want to add]

2011-05-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 16.05.11 13:23, Martin Pitt (martin.p...@ubuntu.com) wrote: > Hello Lennart, > > Lennart Poettering [2011-05-16 1:06 +0200]: > > Next question: can you point me to some sources? (or alternatively some > > project name I could google for?) Would like to have a look on it, > > before I spe

Re: language/locale selector [was: Re: Settings downstream would reasonably want to add]

2011-05-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 16.05.11 07:28, Ross Burton (r...@burtonini.com) wrote: > > On 16 May 2011 00:09, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Ah, very interesting. This is good to know. Interesting place though, in > > connman. > > Yeah, it is "interesting". I discovered this because I'd floated the > idea of a tin

Re: Online Accounts panel for 3.2

2011-05-16 Thread David Zeuthen
Hi, On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Will Thompson wrote: >> that your mail application can use. For Chat, my thinking is that we >> could have something similar e.g. >> >>  GetAuthenticatedXmppConnection (OUT h file_descriptor); >> >> that Telepathy can use. Does that sounds OK? > > No, not rea

Re: Online Accounts panel for 3.2

2011-05-16 Thread Will Thompson
On 13/05/11 15:20, David Zeuthen wrote: > So my current experiments [1] actually reflect this thinking .. in > fact, right now I'm working on the Mail experience, basically trying > to implement something like these mockups > > https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Guidelines/MessageTray/Email

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 16:36 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > I'll note that sushi should be using the normal (non-dark) variant of > the theme when playing audio though. I'm sure the jury is still out on > whether it should use the dark variant for office type documents. Could you expand on why you

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 16:15 +0100, Justin Joseph wrote: > As for the look and feel, can you be more precise? Are you > saying e.g. > Sushi should not use a custom/dark theme if the application > counterpart > doesn't? > The UI chrome for Sushi is *ver

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Justin Joseph
> > As for the look and feel, can you be more precise? Are you saying e.g. > Sushi should not use a custom/dark theme if the application counterpart > doesn't? > The UI chrome for Sushi is *very* minimal - basically the only clickable > elements are an OSD-toolbar that automatically fades out after

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-16 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 17:41 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert Ancell > wrote: > > > > There have been problems for years and years and years. There is some > > point where you need to reconsider if that strategy is appropriate. > > So here's some actual data

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 09:51 -0400, Cosimo Cecchi wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 13:42 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > > On 16 May 2011, at 12:18, Luca Ferretti wrote: > > > > > Also, what about content handler/previewer? I remember this similar > > > feature on mac os provides a dedicated API and pol

Re: First release of geocode-glib available

2011-05-16 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 21:24 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 10:20 +0200, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 16:52 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > This library should be used in place of Geoclue's D-Bus API for > > > geocoding and reverse geocoding. > > > > Is this n

Re: no external panels for gnome-control-center [was GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup]

2011-05-16 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 22:58 +0100, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: > > We're not dictating anything; we're just making an awesome OS, the way > > we envision, period. > Wait a sec. It was said (here and on IRC) that g-c-c wants to include > only "polished" panels to g-c-c. Only panels that gnome UI speciali

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 09:42:41AM -0400, Cosimo Cecchi wrote: > about this kind of integration, as e.g. F&R itself is still in the early > design phase). OTOH I'm not sure the Zeitgeist information exports is > useful at all for Sushi; what kind of integration were you thinking > here? I meant mo

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 13:42 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On 16 May 2011, at 12:18, Luca Ferretti wrote: > > > Also, what about content handler/previewer? I remember this similar > > feature on mac os provides a dedicated API and policy allowing third > > parties to provide their own "previewers" (

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
Hi Olav, On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 13:44 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > - what would the UI be in Nautilus? (default action vs preview) Right now it's activated with Spacebar. Sushi would never be a default action, but it has to be explicitly triggered (show me the preview vs. open this file). I also

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 11:39 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 21:50 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > > 1. Evince is supposed to be a generic document viewer. Is there any > > overlap with Sushi? > > I would guess that Sushi should use evince libraries to implement > viewing fo

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Calum Benson
On 16 May 2011, at 12:18, Luca Ferretti wrote: > Also, what about content handler/previewer? I remember this similar > feature on mac os provides a dedicated API and policy allowing third > parties to provide their own "previewers" (i.e. gimp should/could > provide the plugin to allow previewing

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Calum Benson
On 13 May 2011, at 00:06, Luca Ferretti wrote: > Other places where file previews could be useful are the future > gnome-shell "desktop" (not sure what's current design/label for > planned place holding recent and pinned stuff) and file chooser > (only open or save too?). Also some specific place

Re: release-team-lurkers: for people who can read and not respond

2011-05-16 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 13:56 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > Note that release-team-lurkers is a test. We will remove the entire > > > mailing list if we think it has a bad effect. > > > > You could also have made the mailing-list p

Re: release-team-lurkers: for people who can read and not respond

2011-05-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > Note that release-team-lurkers is a test. We will remove the entire > > mailing list if we think it has a bad effect. > > You could also have made the mailing-list private, and subscribed gmane > to it. That way the archives would

Re: release-team-lurkers: for people who can read and not respond

2011-05-16 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 13:37 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > The release-team mailing list is intended for private discussions > between release-team members. It should not be interesting as anything > that is important, we'll either announce or bring to an appropriate > mailing list. > > The release-

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:39:31AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 21:50 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > 2. What about the file associations? You might want to easily view > > things, or actually work with the file (change it). How would this be > > handled? What would happen by

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-16 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Matthias Clasen wrote: > I've read over the entire thread again, and you've > really lost me. This was a fairly civil thread, compared to many other > discussions we've had. Perhaps that's part of the issue? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org _

Re: language/locale selector [was: Re: Settings downstream would reasonably want to add]

2011-05-16 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello Lennart, Lennart Poettering [2011-05-16 1:06 +0200]: > Next question: can you point me to some sources? (or alternatively some > project name I could google for?) Would like to have a look on it, > before I spend time on this. [1] has the backend code plus polkit files. But please NB that

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno dom, 15/05/2011 alle 21.50 +0200, Olav Vitters ha scritto: > 1. Evince is supposed to be a generic document viewer. Is there any > overlap with Sushi? Yes and no. Evince only works with PDF/PS/$TEXTUAL documents, while sushi should also manage images, audio, video and probably more. Mo

Re: Settings downstream would reasonably want to add [was: long thread with no resolution]

2011-05-16 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno ven, 13/05/2011 alle 08.33 -0400, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: > > > * system-config-printer: We decided to continue to use that instead > > of the GNOME 3 c-c one. s-c-p is a lot more complete and proven. > > Hmm; this is an example of the pick-and-match mindset that pits > downstre

Re: First release of geocode-glib available

2011-05-16 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 12:44 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > On 05/14/2011 11:24 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > The fact that we have only one implementation means that we have one > > well maintained implementation. I don't think it's much of a problem. Do > > you have particular reasons why you th

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-16 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 21:50 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:15:02PM +0100, Allan Day wrote: > > Sounds like it should be both a new feature and a part of GNOME core. It > > would be great to be able to introduce it as a feature in 3.2. > > > > I've started a feature page he

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-16 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 13:30 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: > Bastien: > > I'll repeat what I said in the past. Solaris developers will need to > > write some code at some point, or just give up. We can't stand around > > waiting for them to make a move when we want to better the functionality > > of

Re: no external panels for gnome-control-center [was Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup]

2011-05-16 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 11:31 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 11:55 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 07:32 +0200, Michael Terry wrote: > > > So as the Deja Dup maintainer, life will go on when you drop support. > > > Worst case, I can just make the panel a dia

Re: no external panels for gnome-control-center [was Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup]

2011-05-16 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 11:55 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 07:32 +0200, Michael Terry wrote: > > So as the Deja Dup maintainer, life will go on when you drop support. > > Worst case, I can just make the panel a dialog. > > > > But dropping the existing API feels like a frustr

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-16 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno Fri, 13/05/2011 alle 21.17 +0200, Alexander Larsson ha scritto: > On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 14:59 +0200, Robert Ancell wrote: > > I'm proposing LightDM [1] as a replacement for GDM. I started the > > proposal for this in GNOME 3.0 [2] but due to the young age of the > > project I thought it

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-16 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 13:02 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote: > Il giorno Fri, 13/05/2011 alle 21.17 +0200, Alexander Larsson ha > scritto: > > On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 14:59 +0200, Robert Ancell wrote: > > > I'm proposing LightDM [1] as a replacement for GDM. I started the > > > proposal for this in GNOME