On 05/16/2011 01:42 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 12:44 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote:
On 05/14/2011 11:24 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
The fact that we have only one implementation means that we have one
well maintained implementation. I don't think it's much of a problem. Do
yo
Lennart Poettering [2011-05-16 19:33 +0200]:
> Well, I think the different "smaller" system settings we want to make
> configurable, like the system locale, or the hostname or the timezone
> probably all need a tiny bit of intelligence on the server side, in
> order to ensure compat and provide cha
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On 14 May 2011 00:45, Florian Müllner wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 14:59 +0200, Robert Ancell wrote:
>> Why replace GDM?
>>
>> - LightDM is a cross-platform solution.
>
> Will KDE replace kdm with LightDM or drop its non-greeter code in favor
> of LightDM? Are there any interesting discussions i
On 14 May 2011 14:38, Fernando Herrera wrote:
> Wops, I moved the conversation offlist. Getting back to d-d-l.
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Robert Ancell
> wrote:
>> On 13 May 2011 15:56, Fernando Herrera wrote:
>>> What about starting AT applications like orca to use them to interact w
On 14 May 2011 00:19, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert Ancell
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I was not going to propose this project because I am sick of this sort
>> of unprofessional response, especially from leaders in the community.
>> It was the insistence of other leader
On 13 May 2011 21:33, Ray Strode wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Robert Ancell
> wrote:
Note that LightDM is not lighter in features, but in architecture.
>>> And a different focus, right? GDM is firmly a GNOME project, designed
>>> to integrate and work well with GNOME.
On Monday, 16 May 2011 at 19:20, Lennart Poettering wrote:
AFAIK (and I may be wrong), but that's part of its "am I really
> > online" ping to connman.net, which acts as a captive portal detection.
> > The response packet contains a continent, or something.
>
> Oh my. Conmann phones home? This ge
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 20:20 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 16.05.11 18:44, Ross Burton (r...@burtonini.com) wrote:
>
> >
> > On 16 May 2011 18:22, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > conmann also does geoloc? Is there something it doesn't do? Sounds
> > > almost as crazy as systemd ;-)
>
On Mon, 16.05.11 18:44, Ross Burton (r...@burtonini.com) wrote:
>
> On 16 May 2011 18:22, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > conmann also does geoloc? Is there something it doesn't do? Sounds
> > almost as crazy as systemd ;-)
>
> AFAIK (and I may be wrong), but that's part of its "am I really
> onl
On 16/05/11 18:20, David Zeuthen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Will Thompson
> wrote:
>>> that your mail application can use. For Chat, my thinking is that we
>>> could have something similar e.g.
>>>
>>> GetAuthenticatedXmppConnection (OUT h file_descriptor);
>>>
>>> that T
On 16 May 2011 18:22, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> conmann also does geoloc? Is there something it doesn't do? Sounds
> almost as crazy as systemd ;-)
AFAIK (and I may be wrong), but that's part of its "am I really
online" ping to connman.net, which acts as a captive portal detection.
The respons
On Mon, 16.05.11 13:23, Martin Pitt (martin.p...@ubuntu.com) wrote:
> Hello Lennart,
>
> Lennart Poettering [2011-05-16 1:06 +0200]:
> > Next question: can you point me to some sources? (or alternatively some
> > project name I could google for?) Would like to have a look on it,
> > before I spe
On Mon, 16.05.11 07:28, Ross Burton (r...@burtonini.com) wrote:
>
> On 16 May 2011 00:09, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > Ah, very interesting. This is good to know. Interesting place though, in
> > connman.
>
> Yeah, it is "interesting". I discovered this because I'd floated the
> idea of a tin
Hi,
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Will Thompson
wrote:
>> that your mail application can use. For Chat, my thinking is that we
>> could have something similar e.g.
>>
>> GetAuthenticatedXmppConnection (OUT h file_descriptor);
>>
>> that Telepathy can use. Does that sounds OK?
>
> No, not rea
On 13/05/11 15:20, David Zeuthen wrote:
> So my current experiments [1] actually reflect this thinking .. in
> fact, right now I'm working on the Mail experience, basically trying
> to implement something like these mockups
>
> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Guidelines/MessageTray/Email
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 16:36 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> I'll note that sushi should be using the normal (non-dark) variant of
> the theme when playing audio though. I'm sure the jury is still out on
> whether it should use the dark variant for office type documents.
Could you expand on why you
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 16:15 +0100, Justin Joseph wrote:
> As for the look and feel, can you be more precise? Are you
> saying e.g.
> Sushi should not use a custom/dark theme if the application
> counterpart
> doesn't?
> The UI chrome for Sushi is *ver
>
> As for the look and feel, can you be more precise? Are you saying e.g.
> Sushi should not use a custom/dark theme if the application counterpart
> doesn't?
> The UI chrome for Sushi is *very* minimal - basically the only clickable
> elements are an OSD-toolbar that automatically fades out after
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 17:41 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert Ancell
> wrote:
> >
> > There have been problems for years and years and years. There is some
> > point where you need to reconsider if that strategy is appropriate.
>
> So here's some actual data
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 09:51 -0400, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 13:42 +0100, Calum Benson wrote:
> > On 16 May 2011, at 12:18, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> >
> > > Also, what about content handler/previewer? I remember this similar
> > > feature on mac os provides a dedicated API and pol
On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 21:24 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 10:20 +0200, Ted Gould wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 16:52 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > > This library should be used in place of Geoclue's D-Bus API for
> > > geocoding and reverse geocoding.
> >
> > Is this n
On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 22:58 +0100, Sergey Udaltsov wrote:
> > We're not dictating anything; we're just making an awesome OS, the way
> > we envision, period.
> Wait a sec. It was said (here and on IRC) that g-c-c wants to include
> only "polished" panels to g-c-c. Only panels that gnome UI speciali
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 09:42:41AM -0400, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
> about this kind of integration, as e.g. F&R itself is still in the early
> design phase). OTOH I'm not sure the Zeitgeist information exports is
> useful at all for Sushi; what kind of integration were you thinking
> here?
I meant mo
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 13:42 +0100, Calum Benson wrote:
> On 16 May 2011, at 12:18, Luca Ferretti wrote:
>
> > Also, what about content handler/previewer? I remember this similar
> > feature on mac os provides a dedicated API and policy allowing third
> > parties to provide their own "previewers" (
Hi Olav,
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 13:44 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> - what would the UI be in Nautilus? (default action vs preview)
Right now it's activated with Spacebar.
Sushi would never be a default action, but it has to be explicitly
triggered (show me the preview vs. open this file).
I also
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 11:39 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 21:50 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> >
> > 1. Evince is supposed to be a generic document viewer. Is there any
> > overlap with Sushi?
>
> I would guess that Sushi should use evince libraries to implement
> viewing fo
On 16 May 2011, at 12:18, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> Also, what about content handler/previewer? I remember this similar
> feature on mac os provides a dedicated API and policy allowing third
> parties to provide their own "previewers" (i.e. gimp should/could
> provide the plugin to allow previewing
On 13 May 2011, at 00:06, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> Other places where file previews could be useful are the future
> gnome-shell "desktop" (not sure what's current design/label for
> planned place holding recent and pinned stuff) and file chooser
> (only open or save too?). Also some specific place
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 13:56 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > > Note that release-team-lurkers is a test. We will remove the entire
> > > mailing list if we think it has a bad effect.
> >
> > You could also have made the mailing-list p
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > Note that release-team-lurkers is a test. We will remove the entire
> > mailing list if we think it has a bad effect.
>
> You could also have made the mailing-list private, and subscribed gmane
> to it. That way the archives would
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 13:37 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> The release-team mailing list is intended for private discussions
> between release-team members. It should not be interesting as anything
> that is important, we'll either announce or bring to an appropriate
> mailing list.
>
> The release-
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:39:31AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 21:50 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > 2. What about the file associations? You might want to easily view
> > things, or actually work with the file (change it). How would this be
> > handled? What would happen by
Hi,
Matthias Clasen wrote:
> I've read over the entire thread again, and you've
> really lost me. This was a fairly civil thread, compared to many other
> discussions we've had.
Perhaps that's part of the issue?
Cheers,
Dave.
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Hello Lennart,
Lennart Poettering [2011-05-16 1:06 +0200]:
> Next question: can you point me to some sources? (or alternatively some
> project name I could google for?) Would like to have a look on it,
> before I spend time on this.
[1] has the backend code plus polkit files. But please NB that
Il giorno dom, 15/05/2011 alle 21.50 +0200, Olav Vitters ha scritto:
> 1. Evince is supposed to be a generic document viewer. Is there any
> overlap with Sushi?
Yes and no. Evince only works with PDF/PS/$TEXTUAL documents, while
sushi should also manage images, audio, video and probably more.
Mo
Il giorno ven, 13/05/2011 alle 08.33 -0400, Matthias Clasen ha scritto:
>
> > * system-config-printer: We decided to continue to use that instead
> > of the GNOME 3 c-c one. s-c-p is a lot more complete and proven.
>
> Hmm; this is an example of the pick-and-match mindset that pits
> downstre
On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 12:44 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote:
> On 05/14/2011 11:24 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > The fact that we have only one implementation means that we have one
> > well maintained implementation. I don't think it's much of a problem. Do
> > you have particular reasons why you th
On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 21:50 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:15:02PM +0100, Allan Day wrote:
> > Sounds like it should be both a new feature and a part of GNOME core. It
> > would be great to be able to introduce it as a feature in 3.2.
> >
> > I've started a feature page he
On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 13:30 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote:
> Bastien:
> > I'll repeat what I said in the past. Solaris developers will need to
> > write some code at some point, or just give up. We can't stand around
> > waiting for them to make a move when we want to better the functionality
> > of
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 11:31 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 11:55 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 07:32 +0200, Michael Terry wrote:
> > > So as the Deja Dup maintainer, life will go on when you drop support.
> > > Worst case, I can just make the panel a dia
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 11:55 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 07:32 +0200, Michael Terry wrote:
> > So as the Deja Dup maintainer, life will go on when you drop support.
> > Worst case, I can just make the panel a dialog.
> >
> > But dropping the existing API feels like a frustr
Il giorno Fri, 13/05/2011 alle 21.17 +0200, Alexander Larsson ha
scritto:
> On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 14:59 +0200, Robert Ancell wrote:
> > I'm proposing LightDM [1] as a replacement for GDM. I started the
> > proposal for this in GNOME 3.0 [2] but due to the young age of the
> > project I thought it
On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 13:02 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> Il giorno Fri, 13/05/2011 alle 21.17 +0200, Alexander Larsson ha
> scritto:
> > On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 14:59 +0200, Robert Ancell wrote:
> > > I'm proposing LightDM [1] as a replacement for GDM. I started the
> > > proposal for this in GNOME
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