Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-20 Thread Alan Cox
t person, and is not usually qualified or sometimes even competent to be offered the ability to shut down the system they are backing up. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-20 Thread Alan Cox
On Gwe, 2006-01-20 at 09:05 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > currently has no mechanism for making a distinction between background > > users and the user that currently 'controls' the machine. > > I don't think hal's the right layer to make that distinction. I'm > working on implementing it at

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-19 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2006-01-19 at 17:09 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > Strong disagreement, see http://blog.fubar.dk/?p=63 for some ramblings > why this is exactly what one wants to do. Yes, you need to answer how > the system daemon is configured when no user is logged in (don't tell me > some UNIX-y scheme wi

Re: Survey on GNOME developers

2006-01-17 Thread Alan Horkan
return? It is probably just that the request for participation are more noticable than the announcements of results? - Alan H. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: My Folders [Re: Special folders in gnome]

2006-01-14 Thread Alan Horkan
age beginners to think about organising their files a little bit more (and not use Desktop/Documents as a dumping ground, like i tend to do leaving me with a big mess of files I'm forced to sort out later). - Alan H. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Special folders in gnome

2006-01-13 Thread Alan Cox
that applications all still 'just work' OTOH a virtual name works all the time but breaks everything but gnome Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: My Folders [Re: Special folders in gnome]

2006-01-13 Thread Alan Horkan
changed, renamed, > reorganised and adjusted to user preferences. Let us wait and see. This idea has been brought up many times but fizzled out before much happened because there were so many details which couldn't possible be gotten right all at once. I'm really glad to see Mandrake too

My Folders [Re: Special folders in gnome]

2006-01-13 Thread Alan Horkan
later we could also have folders like: /Web Pages/ /Spreadsheets/ /Slideshows/ etc.) I believe keeping these folders in the Documents folder will help those who wish to keep their HOMEDIR relatively tidy and uncluttered. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/Al

Re: Atomix [Re: Trying to reach consensus for the proposed modules]

2006-01-12 Thread Alan Horkan
Em Qui, 2006-01-12 às 00:06 +, Alan Horkan escreveu: > > I have some criticisms of it none of which are show stoppers for playing > > and enjoying Atomix but it would be better if Atomix met the same high > > standards for accessibility, usability and documentation as ot

Text Editors [Re: Trying to reach consensus for the proposed modules]

2006-01-11 Thread Alan Horkan
d effort has been invested in the details of Gedit. There may be good excuse to sneak other text editors into Gnome (like maybe tomboy, or the sticky notes applet, or (*) ...) but justifying the removal of Gedit is a whole other ball of wax. The gedit developers can tell you I'm not even very e

Atomix [Re: Trying to reach consensus for the proposed modules]

2006-01-11 Thread Alan Horkan
it deserves but I'd really like to see better accessibility and documentation before including it. Sorry, I'd really like to be more enthusiastic about Atomix. I really like it honest and it is great fun to plame but in my humble opinion it needs more polish. Sincerely Alan Horkan Inkscap

Re: ALInex - ADSL Modems - Portugal

2005-12-30 Thread Alan Cox
4: have a nice dialog showing we are connected (network-admin, an > applet??) Also probably bytes sent/received. At least in the UK some of our providers now offer cheap but volume limited connections... Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list d

Re: ALInex - ADSL Modems - Portugal

2005-12-30 Thread Alan Cox
On Gwe, 2005-12-30 at 15:20 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > Ahh, I was talking more about firmware like wireless card firmware, that > all you have to do is bung it in /lib/firmware and the card magically > works. Maybe I've missed the point with ADSL modems -- sorry. Ok so what you are proposing i

Re: ALInex - ADSL Modems - Portugal

2005-12-30 Thread Alan Cox
below the user level - not forgetting from the fact you can really upset some devices by loading bogus firmware and possibly load hacked firmware as an end user with other models of operation. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: Alignment of multiple top-level windows

2005-12-29 Thread Alan Cox
w manager has the final say and everything the application provides is merely a request or hint. Windows that set themselves no redirect (eg xteddy, oneko) will of course fall outside window manager handling but proper applications will be fine. Alan __

Re: ALInex - ADSL Modems - Portugal

2005-12-29 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2005-12-29 at 16:24 +, Luis Rodrigues wrote: > What we want is to have a dialog that shows several types os modems, the > users chooses the one he has and we write the apropriate scripts, if it > needs a firmware we would ask the user to enter the location of it. I can't speak for non

Re: Hide extensions [Was: Nautilus]

2005-12-22 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2005-12-22 at 10:36 +0200, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > capable of seeing the reasoning behind it... and can certainly believe > it if somebody tells me that it in fact has been shown to reduce > confusion among novice users.) Extensions are very much a windows property rather than a non-windows

Re: [Fwd: Nautilus]

2005-12-21 Thread Alan Cox
d spacial nautilus for some time I like many others want real nautilus back ... It isn't as simple as claiming everyone will eventually agree with you. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/m

Re: EOG features

2005-12-05 Thread Alan Horkan
a handy-dandy pane at the bottom for moving > through your images. I think the point was although you can do this you shouldn't even need to. Not only the collection view, but also the single image view should try and preload the next image. (I

Re: EOG features

2005-12-01 Thread Alan
d just right click -> rotate cc to rotate them all. That seems the best place for this functionality in nautilus IMHO, why have to go into a photo management app when you a) can see the thumbnails and b) just need to rotate left or right. -- Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://arcterex.net -

Re: EOG features

2005-12-01 Thread Alan Horkan
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Kalle Vahlman wrote: > Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 09:46:17 +0200 > From: Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: EOG features > > 2005/12/1, Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Re: EOG features

2005-11-30 Thread Alan Horkan
our originals.) Ideally we'd do a bit of user testing and come up with a solid answer but I'm a big fan of "competative analysis" because it is a lot easier and faster to compare and contrast what others are already doing and stand

Re: EOG features

2005-11-30 Thread Alan Horkan
ing to use it. Also there is no easy way to compare two images side by side which I occasionally want to do, it is very much about only one image at a time.) Sincerely Alan Horkan Alan's Diary http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ * pedantry: lossless as in no extra reencoding, cr

Re: Denoting Remote Machines (Re: Custom Icons for GNOME Terminal Profiles)

2005-11-20 Thread Alan Horkan
ested XSession if you want to keep a clear seperation of these remote applications from your local applications? - Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Denoting Remote Machines (Re: Custom Icons for GNOME Terminal Profiles)

2005-11-20 Thread Alan Horkan
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Davyd Madeley wrote: > Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:47:45 +0800 > From: Davyd Madeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: Denoting Remote Machines (Re: Custom Icons for GNOME > Terminal Profiles) > > On Sat, 2005

Re: Denoting Remote Machines (Re: Custom Icons for GNOME Terminal Profiles)

2005-11-19 Thread Alan Horkan
mote X clients running on your X server are marked with an > @hostname in the title. That information can also be shown by configuring your command line prompt. Might be easier to allow the terminal to use whatever you have set as your prompt as the window title, as it mig

Re: Enable accessibility by default in development releases?

2005-11-11 Thread Alan Cox
the desktop development that need some love? When the kernel started printing scary messages and crashing rather than crossing its fingers and continuing the results were very positive in terms of debugging. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list deskto

Re: [Deskbar] Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Deskbar Applet

2005-10-30 Thread Alan Cox
> We are aware of memory- and startup issues, but you surely know that > premature optimisation is a top-three killer in free software projects. The question is "Can you optimise it and fix the problem". If you use a python vm and the answer is "no", how do you propose to fix the problem when it

Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Deskbar Applet

2005-10-27 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2005-10-27 at 13:32 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > The result: a single process (per user, per display), and a single > main loop, for all applets. Of course this means if one applet > deadlocks or dies, they all die. But at least dying in python is not so > easy. You usuall

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2005-10-26 at 10:31 -0700, Rob Adams wrote: > scheme whereby the login dialog first authenticates itself to the user > before the user typing in the password to avoid that, or a button you > press before the login screen presents itself which is intercepted at > the kernel level to cause th

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2005-10-26 at 17:15 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: > Root can gain access to your DISPLAY (~/.Xauthority), your tty, your env > vars, strace or gdb a process, etc. It can even simply kill the Depends how your security model is set up. GNOME runs on several platforms (Linux included) with mor

Re: Keyboard usage on some Gnome windows not working

2005-10-19 Thread Alan McGinlay
I find that typing the access key is far faster than using the mouse but that depends on the task I'm doing at the time. On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:49:40 +0100 Bill Haneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew said: > > > In Windows 2000 and (I think) Windows XP, all access key underlines > > are h

Re: "Linux Standard Base Takes on the Desktop"

2005-10-18 Thread Alan McGinlay
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:34:46 +0300 Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2005/10/18, Alan McGinlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Has anyone from gnome been contacted about this? It would seem > > to me that if they don't work with us then what they are tryin

"Linux Standard Base Takes on the Desktop"

2005-10-18 Thread Alan McGinlay
Hi Guys and Gals Just spotted this news item: "The Free Standards Group and its Linux Standard Base work group Tuesday announced the formation of the Linux Standard Base Desktop Project, with the support of Adobe Systems Inc., Intel Corp., IBM, Hewlett-Packard Co., Linspire Inc., Mandriva SA, Nov

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Alan Cox
On Llu, 2005-10-17 at 13:18 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > Hi > > One of the best improvements we've seen while working on speeding up the > GNOME startup time has been the removal of the xsettings thing, via xrdb > -merge execution. Make xrdb use decus cpp and it takes basically zero time. Trivial

Betterdesktop.org

2005-10-12 Thread Alan McGinlay
lo all, apologies if this has already been mentioned. Just found this news article about desktop usability studies performed by Novel: http://news.com.com/2061-10795_3-5893239.html Its quite an interesting article and links to this Novel/opensuse subproject: http://www.betterdesktop.org It con

Re: Fish in GNOME Panel

2005-10-11 Thread Alan McGinlay
Its old and dated. I can make a new fish if anyone wants (how about a "tart up wanda" competition?) If no-ones interested in that then I say: who's for sushi? (I.E. kill it) On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:40:40 -0400 "Ronald S. Bultje" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 17:12 -0400, Mar

Thoughts on the future of gnome

2005-10-10 Thread alan
Hi all! This is my first post to the ml so please go easy on me :) (I hope its the right place, I sent to the gnome-list but it seems to be unused i think) I was just thinking about gnome and making it more widespread and I realised that the windows vista release is an ideal opertunity for gnome

Re: Keyboard usage on some Gnome windows not working

2005-10-09 Thread Alan
nd the open dialog. Ok, that makes sense now :) To me though, having the keys already underlined indicates that the keyboard shortcut is active now, not after an alt-press. Thanks. -- Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://arcterex.net ---

Re: Keyboard usage on some Gnome windows not working

2005-10-09 Thread Alan
y, it doesn't work. Not sure if it doesn't work ever, or just in most apps. For me saving an unsaved doc in gedit shows this. Could be an issue with my keyboard or setup though... if so, anyone have any idea what it could be? alan -- Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://arcterex.n

Re: MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-07 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2005-10-04 at 18:32 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > some admins put sensible info on /etc/moptd, so we might not want to > show it to anyone getting to the login screen. For that, /etc/issue > might be better suited, although that is of no use for most users. /etc/motd and /etc/iissue are gen

Re: MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-04 Thread Alan
; > reports from syslogd. > > > > > gnome-power-manager deals with that now, displaying a dialog to the user > > when battery power is critical > > What about when the system shuts down? Can I be informed abo

Re: String review

2005-09-22 Thread Alan Cox
L) exit(); in apps. For databases - that sort of exists, most translation tools have databases used for "helpful" matching. Kyfieithu (www.kyfieithu.co.uk) can also tell you where the helpful suggestion came from in case the suggestion is mis-spelt. Alan

Re: Quality of Service in GNOME

2005-09-16 Thread Alan Cox
On Gwe, 2005-09-16 at 23:06 +0200, Samuel Abels wrote: > kernel-level scheduler/queue. For example, give the application that has > currently focus a higher network priority, or make that VoIP application > work perfectly even if you have a few downloads/bittorrent running, etc. Except in special

Re: Moving to bonjour over howl

2005-09-15 Thread Alan Cox
to work with as opposed to use the open source community for its projects. I wasn't personally aware of the Avahi plan but that looks even better. Howl certain does get tested and used in a wide variety of projects which gives good coverage. Alan _

Re: Moving to bonjour over howl

2005-09-15 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2005-09-15 at 09:18 -0400, JP Rosevear wrote: > Is there any reason not to prefer bonjour over howl now? Apple has > re-licensed the client portions of the library under BSD like howl and > almost certainly bonjour will be better tested. What makes you assume that ? _

Re: Removing xrdb for 10% startup win?

2005-08-29 Thread Alan Cox
oes rather more than would be wanted. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Removing xrdb for 10% startup win?

2005-08-27 Thread Alan Swanson
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 00:52 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 00:36 +0100, Alan Swanson wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 00:27 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > > > What you say about IO taking place later is true, but consider that a

Re: Removing xrdb for 10% startup win?

2005-08-27 Thread Alan Swanson
to delaying running xrdb (or any other unimportant startup processes) simply renice it to say 20? -- Alan. "One must never be purposelessnessnesslessness." signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ desktop-devel-

Re: license of libegg/recent-files

2005-08-16 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2005-08-16 at 18:03 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Seems that part of the code has been licensed under GPL instead of LGPL; > > IANAL, but doesn't this means that every project including recent-files > > code should be GPL'ed too? Anyway, isn't the usual license for Gnome > > code LGPL? A

Re: Certification for GNOME apps

2005-07-19 Thread Alan Cox
ed a > certificate after all. "GNOME Friendly" may be a better term. Providing it doesn't in any way imply a connectio then yes I agree. Its about naming. Novell used to have a "works with netware" thing along those lines in fact. Alan _

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Horkan
> Alan Horkan wrote: > > >Supporting Autopackage wouldn't adversely affect or favour any > >particularly distribution and it would in fact produce packages widely > >usable by a whole variety of distributions. There is no Autopackage based > >distribu

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Horkan
f Autopackages could be very interesting. (but this is all theoretical and it would require developers to create the necessary autopackage specifications which mostly do not exist yet so I'll say no more) Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ ___

Re: rawhide tangent [was Re: Gtk+ 2.8 for GNOME 2.12]

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Cox
when suggested to them 8( Alan -- "This is a dark chapter in our history and I hope it will never happen again," - KLM after their staff shredded 440 live squirrels ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail

Re: Default theme

2005-07-16 Thread Alan Horkan
he application. With projects like library.gnome.org it becomes a way for users to find out more about Gnome without necessarily having the application (or simply not having the most up to date version). Sincerley Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ _

Re: Certification for GNOME apps

2005-07-14 Thread Alan Horkan
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, [utf-8] Danilo ??egan wrote: > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:06:56 +0200 > From: "[utf-8] Danilo ??egan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Andrew Sobala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: GNOME Desktop , > Federico Mena Quintero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: Certification for GNOME apps

2005-07-14 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2005-07-13 at 21:04, Jonathan Blandford wrote: > The first two seem like no-brainers, but what are you thinking of > 'harming the name of GNOME'? Is a clause requiring acceptable levels of > privacy sufficient? Do you have other, concrete concerns here? I guess the extreme example might

Re: Certification for GNOME apps

2005-07-13 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2005-07-13 at 16:27, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > - A way for users to know which app is more GNOME-like; hopefully this > will give them a way to pick the better product. You also need a list of things that are not acceptable, things that regardless of how "GNOME" they are would damage

Re: Modifying GNOME-About to count users

2005-07-06 Thread Alan Horkan
ere already sending back information to Gnome.org and something which distributions would not interfere with. Alternatively you could ask users to provide feedback in places when they are already filling in a load of forms about their identity (galago?) and ask them if they would l

Re: Modifying GNOME-About to count users

2005-07-06 Thread Alan Cox
hdot article now.. Its problematic to do any kind of automation like that - permission belongs with the company not the user in many cases. It may also trigger charges on GPRS networks and the like. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-

Re: Modifying GNOME-About to count users

2005-07-05 Thread Alan Horkan
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Ikke wrote: > Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:42:05 +0200 > From: Ikke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: Modifying GNOME-About to count users > > > When it comes to prov

Re: Modifying GNOME-About to count users

2005-07-05 Thread Alan Horkan
users to optionally include various bits of additional meta data or other survey information. I used the Netscape Talkback tool extensively for several years and before you chose send it included nice checklist of exactly what information you were willin

Re: Three Point Zero - Idea Mockups

2005-05-27 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2005-05-26 at 20:52, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: > Obl. Joel on Software link: > http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog69.html > But still, wasn't gnome 2 more or less a rewrite of gnome 1? And very very very late, in fact it nearly kille

Re: Perl vs Mono/C#

2005-05-22 Thread Alan
e > things perl can. Different jobs require differnt tools. Mono is suited for some things, perl for others, c for others, etc etc. Just because desktop apps are starting to be written in c# and mono doesn't mean that perl isn't the most logical choice for text processing on a webpage

Re: The hall of bloat

2005-05-16 Thread Alan Cox
On Llu, 2005-05-16 at 18:21, Soeren Sandmann wrote: > Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Isn't it always the case that you have to fill in the page table > hierarchy down to the pages that you are actually using, regardless of > the size of the mapping? Why would a

Re: The hall of bloat

2005-05-16 Thread Alan Cox
out of memory is reliably detected). Gnome currently runs ok in that mode although evolution 2.* didn't last time I tried it. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Workspace Switcher Loop?

2005-05-09 Thread Alan Cox
metacity that contains useful features" strands. Really this belongs on the metacity list however. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Evince as universal "Viewer"

2005-04-19 Thread Alan
le does with their "Preview" application. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Thanks, > > Steven Garrity > > ___ > > desktop-devel-list mailing list > > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailm

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-13 Thread Alan
seems to sit there, then eventually load the splash screen, sit some more, load some icons, sit, then my desktop appears. *That* is the issue that I think needs to be worked on (or at least, the one that I think is outside of the use

Re: Bugzilla will be DOWN Sat 9 April 17.00-20.00 UTC

2005-04-06 Thread Alan Horkan
0 bugs to the Linux desktop" Gnome is not the only Linux desktop. And what about BSD you insensitive clod! :P - Alan H. P.S. This whole thread was inspired and brightened up my day. Thanks and good luck to Olav. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing li

Re: Gnome 3.0 - menus

2005-04-04 Thread Alan
dered getting rid of the menu bar altogether? This may > sound a bit radical, but I think it's worth mentioning. Do you mean the menu at the top of the screen with Aplications, Places, System? If so, you can delete this yourself by just deleting the menu from the panel (or the panel al

Re: User Interface Suggestion: Font Size Preferences: Taskbar

2005-03-25 Thread Alan Horkan
getting it done properly the first time. check the mailing list archives from earlier this year for information about the gnome menu editor. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: User Interface Suggestion: Snap to Edge of Desktop Items

2005-03-25 Thread Alan
y holding 'Shift' while doing any of those things and watch the magic > happen... What would the disadvantage of having this on all the time? IE: have it so that you hold the shift key to allow for free placement. -- Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://arcterex.net --

Re: bug-buddy branched

2005-03-24 Thread Alan Horkan
an we have a stock GTK item for this first so that the label will be consistent and easily translatable in just one place? > * Add your favourite feature here and send me some beer. Good luck with the next version of Bug-Buddy. Sincerely Alan Horkan Abiword http://planet.abisource.com Dia

Re: roadmap status update/update request

2005-03-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2005-03-08 at 18:37, Marc O'Morain wrote: > Perhaps a "feature request" feature could be implemented into the > GNOME desktop, similar to bug buddy. It has one - but I suspect the wrong place. It should be in the help application. "Did this help" "no

Re: roadmap status update/update request

2005-03-08 Thread Alan Cox
e here who runs Gnome or KDE desktops for other people may have some of that information. Tiny bits perhaps but together they make up the picture. Sysadmins will tell you things like "we had a menu panel along the top but no bottom panel. We had to add a m

Re: roadmap status update/update request

2005-03-08 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2005-03-08 at 18:13, Rob Adams wrote: > notably the "Java Desktop Environment" (I mean, honestly, what the hell > is that?), but Red Hat's desktop is also a major offender. Perhaps if > we asked nicely. How about a [insert long string of obscenities] trademark policy that is sane. > The

Re: roadmap status update/update request

2005-03-08 Thread Alan Cox
in interviews with certain groups of user so there is a bias to the EU and to larger businesses in the people I have talked to so far. That may matter a great deal in terms of why things like lockdown come up high. I'd be interested in comparing notes with anyone doing similar work.

Re: roadmap status update/update request

2005-03-08 Thread Alan Horkan
[skip to the last two paragraphs for the improtant bit...] On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Alan Cox wrote: > Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 10:26:36 + > From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Eugenia Loli-Queru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: r

Re: roadmap status update/update request

2005-03-08 Thread Alan Cox
ry much - if it stays a way to help developers see the priorities then great. That might give a few people a shock too as to where the users idea of urgent begins and what it is. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Alan Horkan
bnails of them on the parent folder. Here's an example I grabbed thanks to google: http://www.scotsnewsletter.com/winxpb2/graphics/screenshots/06_my_pictures.jpg Certianly there is room for improvement here, I'd be surprised if the Nautilus developers didn't already have some ideas in mind. - Alan H. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: moving windows above the top panel

2005-02-14 Thread Alan Cox
widgets off display while Xaw shrank stuff and lost bits of labels first. Qt now I believe adds scrollbars which is a bit of hack but didnt at the time. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: moving windows above the top panel

2005-02-14 Thread Alan Cox
> it can be resized, not all widgets will be visible (or, in the case of Qt, > it will show some Really Ugly (TM) scrolling bars or scrolling arrows). This > is hardly a solution. The real problem here is the fact that the developers > don't know how to write good-looking and practical apps. A

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-14 Thread Alan Horkan
ave toned down the ribbing, and it's a > great > improvement. Apple made a mistake and they fixed it. Let's learn from > that and just avoid the mistake altogether. I believe Apple referred to them as *pinstripes*. I wounldn't normally see fit to mention it but

Re: Request for breakage in gnome-panel

2005-02-14 Thread Alan Cox
/potential users the better. Go victimise some relatives, business associates or other willing (or unable to escape) people and take notes. Its a parallelisable problem to do that and then look for common themes in the results. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Request for breakage in gnome-panel

2005-02-14 Thread Alan Cox
e it'll look like a sheep, or maybe a black and white banana depending on theme" Run As is IMHO non threatening. It isn't used much anyway (which means the design is right). Its pretty essential when you need to deal with something one off and the dial

RE: moving windows above the top panel

2005-02-14 Thread Alan Cox
s) rather than working out what the middle rectangle size actually is. Alan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

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