Re: [Desktop_architects] Runtime dependency limitations

2005-12-18 Thread Martin Konold
Am Montag, 19. Dezember 2005 03:33 schrieb Mike Shaver: Mike, > On 18-Dec-05, at 4:30 PM, Martin Konold wrote: > > But it adds another runtime requirement to the application. When using > > traditional linking this means that the application will fail at > > runtime if > > the appropriate cups cl

[Desktop_architects] Re: Runtime dependency limitations

2005-12-18 Thread Mike Shaver
On 18-Dec-05, at 9:43 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: Mike Hearn (who wrote relaytool) said that Debian objected to it (see http://plan99.net/autopackage/Linux_Problems#weak ) because it would defeat Debian's automatic dependency scanning. Presumably implementing DT_USEFUL directly would make them happy.

[Desktop_architects] Re: Runtime dependency limitations

2005-12-18 Thread Dan Kegel
On 12/18/05, Mike Shaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, and this is a limitation of the Linux linking model that I think > should be addressed with some urgency, if it is a goal to make it > easier for ISVs to adopt new Linux-desktop capabilities > aggressively. (I think that it should very muc

[Desktop_architects] Runtime dependency limitations

2005-12-18 Thread Mike Shaver
On 18-Dec-05, at 4:30 PM, Martin Konold wrote: But it adds another runtime requirement to the application. When using traditional linking this means that the application will fail at runtime if the appropriate cups client library is not available. Yes, and this is a limitation of the Linux l

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-18 Thread Martin Konold
Am Freitag, 16. Dezember 2005 19:35 schrieben Sie: Hi Norm, > >I disagree because this ties the 3rd party application to a specific > > desktop. For the success of the Linux Desktop it is imho mandatory that > > 3rd party applications integrate well in any desktop which follows the > > same commo

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-18 Thread Martin Konold
Am Freitag, 16. Dezember 2005 14:14 schrieb Michael Sweet: Hi Michael, > > It is a bad design decision for an application to directly link to the > > cups client library (ABI concerns,...) but it is much better to use a > > protocol based interface to use the full potential of CUPS. > > I strongl