Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday 10 June 2006 16:23, you wrote: > On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 03:01:37PM -0700, Bastian, Waldo wrote: > > So what can be done to overcome such barrier? I'm inclined to think of > > bi-langual liasion persons, or maybe a liason group whose mission it is > > to facilitate the integration of pa

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday 10 June 2006 17:09, you wrote: > > So I think that some of the fundamental things we need to get right > > today are to solve all the various large scale desktop issues that > > plague major companies today. If we can make it significantly easier to > > maintain vast numbers of enterpr

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Mike Hearn wrote: > > Sure but this doesn't really answer the question of why bother? :) Why are you doing software, if you aren't interested in people using it? The goodness of software is in how well it serves people. Not in anything else. It's not some kind of masturba

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Mike Hearn
> So I think that some of the fundamental things we need to get right > today are to solve all the various large scale desktop issues that > plague major companies today. If we can make it significantly easier to > maintain vast numbers of enterprise desktop systems than other OS's, > resulting in

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 03:01:37PM -0700, Bastian, Waldo wrote: > >There are so many localized development efforts, but sometimes > >they are not put back to the upstreams. In most of cases, > >there are some mis or no communications because of language barrier. > > So what can be done to overcome

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Bastian, Waldo
Takaaki Higuchi wrote: >Bastian, Waldo wrote: >> The problem with the disconnect between the asian markets and current >> open source development communities is that in the above analysis these >> markets classify as a whole in the "free rider" category which makes >> them essentially uninteresting

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 07:44:48PM +0100, Mike Hearn wrote: > On 6/9/06, Bryce Harrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >But for general users, like mentioned above, having the apps (or their > >equivalent) on Linux is necessary but not sufficient. Honestly, most > >users don't care, or even fear c

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Mike Hearn
On 6/9/06, Bryce Harrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But for general users, like mentioned above, having the apps (or their > equivalent) on Linux is necessary but not sufficient. Honestly, most > users don't care, or even fear change at the OS level. So some > additional motivation is requir

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:41:06PM +0900, Takaaki Higuchi wrote: > Bastian, Waldo wrote: > > The problem with the disconnect between the asian markets and current > > open source development communities is that in the above analysis these > > markets classify as a whole in the "free rider" category

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Takaaki Higuchi
Bastian, Waldo wrote: > The problem with the disconnect between the asian markets and current > open source development communities is that in the above analysis these > markets classify as a whole in the "free rider" category which makes > them essentially uninteresting for the development communi

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Takaaki Higuchi
My intention to organize this meeting is that we need to make a single point to discuss open source desktop in Japan(as you do here now). So, this is just a starting point. We didn't have enough time to discuss each issue in detail, so we just started discussions on sorting out problems/issues and