Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-15 Thread Eric Newton
> > This started making me think about making this clear for other components > like FATE and RandomWalk. > Accumulo dev's have made some effort to extract Fate, Tracing, RandomWalk and even ContinuousIngest, all to see the code copied (tracing, CI), with little attribution, or ignored (RW, Fate).

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Christopher
If we do it early and are prepared to revert if we find we come into a situation we cannot work around, then I'd be +1 to pursuing 0.9.2 (even though I was kinda happy I only needed to keep one version installed now that we're not really making 1.5 releases any more). -- Christopher L Tubbs II htt

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Elser
Yeah, that's why I brought it up now. If we're going to do it, we should do it now and let the shake-down begin. I know Hive has been on 0.9.2 for a while now, so I assume it's somewhat ok. I'm sure we'll be good testers :) Christopher wrote: Bumping thrift versions scares me... a lot... bec

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Christopher
Bumping thrift versions scares me... a lot... because of how terrible thrift has been about avoiding breakage and/or retaining functionality. It seems every time we bump to fix something we want fixed, we find many more things broken. I'd be much more interested in moving to something a bit more r

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Christopher
I completely agree with more abstracting separable funtionality where it makes sense. I think RFile makes sense. Maybe separating it out would help alleviate some problems I've seen with it being too tightly coupled with Hadoop config and Accumulo config. And, maybe it'd help with its API... right

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Elser
Also, might be worthwhile to look at thrift 0.9.2 for 1.8 For kerberos, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-2660. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-2274 might be a concern for us too (would have to check). Josh Elser wrote: Some thoughts myself... John Vines brought up t

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Elser
Some thoughts myself... John Vines brought up to me privately the topic of separating out the RFile code from core. This started making me think about making this clear for other components like FATE and RandomWalk. These all have some level of separation, but they often get other things dropp

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Christopher
I don't see a problem sending an extra note to the user@ alias and the twitter, just to be clear but I think we've sufficiently covered it for the larger ASF community with the announce@ notice. -- Christopher L Tubbs II http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Josh Elser w

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Elser
Do you think we didn't cover that appropriately in the ANNOUNCE email and/or the release notes? I wouldn't have expected anything more from Hadoop Weekly than "apache foo x.y.z, 1-2 high-level changes, read more _here_" Sean Busbey wrote: I think we also need a formal announcement that the b

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Sean Busbey
I think we also need a formal announcement that the branch is EOM and may only be resuscitated for critical security issues (and may not at that). To illustrate the need, I noticed the 1.5.3 release made Hadoop Weekly but there was no mention that it is the last expected 1.5.z release. On Tue, Ju

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-07 Thread Christopher
Good point. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015, 15:36 Josh Elser wrote: > Upgrade testing out of 1.5.x to 1.6 or 1.7? > > Christopher wrote: > > What else is there to do for 1.5 EOL? We've indicated this already in > > the 1.5.3 release announcement and we've removed the 1.5 development > > branch. As far as I

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-07 Thread Josh Elser
Upgrade testing out of 1.5.x to 1.6 or 1.7? Christopher wrote: What else is there to do for 1.5 EOL? We've indicated this already in the 1.5.3 release announcement and we've removed the 1.5 development branch. As far as I'm concerned, I think the last remaining thing to do is to archive the 1.5

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-07 Thread Christopher
What else is there to do for 1.5 EOL? We've indicated this already in the 1.5.3 release announcement and we've removed the 1.5 development branch. As far as I'm concerned, I think the last remaining thing to do is to archive the 1.5 parts of the website... and I see no particular rush for that. We

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Busbey
I'd like to see the 1.5 EOL happen. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Josh Elser wrote: > Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by everyone > else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases! > > To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to > mind... >

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-07 Thread Keith Turner
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Josh Elser wrote: > Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by everyone > else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases! > > To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to > mind... > > * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-06 Thread Corey Nolet
+1 on the happy hour! On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Eric Newton wrote: > More importantly, when are we going to have a happy hour to celebrate? > > -Eric > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Josh Elser wrote: > > > Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by everyone > >

Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-06 Thread Eric Newton
More importantly, when are we going to have a happy hour to celebrate? -Eric On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Josh Elser wrote: > Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by everyone > else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases! > > To keep the ball rolling, what's next? Hi

Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-06 Thread Josh Elser
Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by everyone else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases! To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to mind... * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0? * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1? * What