Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-02-08 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Yep, there is no going back now. I am adding the post on the camel site and the release notes. Hadrian On Feb 8, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: > Hi > > Now the major changes has been implemented (first 3 items from roadmap) > http://camel.apache.org/camel-27-roadmap.html > > I think we

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-02-07 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi Now the major changes has been implemented (first 3 items from roadmap) http://camel.apache.org/camel-27-roadmap.html I think we should post a note on the 2.6 release notes about the change moving forward. Also we should consider adding a news post on the camel website as well. eg about jdk 1

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-02-05 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
I agree, you're absolutely right Claus. Easiest it to do it in a few smaller steps. Cheers, Hadrian On Feb 5, 2011, at 3:08 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: >> CAMEL-3603 is done. What's next? Dropping Junit 3? >> > > That's great Hadrian. > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-02-05 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi I have upgraded to Spring 3.0 as minimum now. -- Claus Ibsen - FuseSource Email: cib...@fusesource.com Web: http://fusesource.com Twitter: davsclaus Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-02-05 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > CAMEL-3603 is done. What's next? Dropping Junit 3? > That's great Hadrian. There is a tiny bit Java code which can be migrated to Java 6, for example IOException now accepts a nested exception so we dont need to use IOHelper for that. I

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-02-04 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
CAMEL-3603 is done. What's next? Dropping Junit 3? Hadrian On Feb 4, 2011, at 2:54 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: > Hi > > Camel 2.7 roadmap > http://camel.apache.org/camel-27-roadmap.html > > The switching to slf4j logging is now complete on trunk. > > Are we ready for the next step? To drop JDK 1.5

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-02-03 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi Camel 2.7 roadmap http://camel.apache.org/camel-27-roadmap.html The switching to slf4j logging is now complete on trunk. Are we ready for the next step? To drop JDK 1.5? https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-3603 When we get started on this, there is no turning back. -- Claus Ibs

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-31 Thread Willem Jiang
On 1/30/11 1:16 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: Why create a branch now? The branch should be created off of the camel-2.6.0 tag. Hence it can be created at any time. It must not be created off of trunk. That time is the first time somebody wants to apply a fix on both the trunk and 2.6.x moving f

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-31 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Christian Müller wrote: > Droping Spring 2.x also means: > - removing the features file for Spring 2? > - removing the camel-itest-spring-2.0 module? > > Should we put this to the issue? > Yeah please comment on the JIRA tickets. There is also code in camel-jms

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-31 Thread Christian Müller
Droping Spring 2.x also means: - removing the features file for Spring 2? - removing the camel-itest-spring-2.0 module? Should we put this to the issue?

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-31 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi I have created some tickets for the roadmap https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-3603 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-3604 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-3605 On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: > Hi > > I have created a wiki page for the 2.

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-30 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi I have created a wiki page for the 2.7 roadmap with the goals we have discussed here https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Camel+2.7+-+Roadmap I took the liberty to add some goals for improved testing. -- Claus Ibsen - FuseSource Email: cib...@fusesource.com Web

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-29 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Willem Jiang wrote: > It looks like we need to create a new camel 2.6.x branch from now on, > Current camel trunk 2.7.0 can't build with JDK 1.5[1] > Ah that's one of mine commits :) Its the stupid thing with the JDK 1.5 that TimeUnit dont have MINUTES. They stop

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-29 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Why create a branch now? The branch should be created off of the camel-2.6.0 tag. Hence it can be created at any time. It must not be created off of trunk. That time is the first time somebody wants to apply a fix on both the trunk and 2.6.x moving forward. Is that the case? Hadrian On Jan 2

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-29 Thread Willem Jiang
It looks like we need to create a new camel 2.6.x branch from now on, Current camel trunk 2.7.0 can't build with JDK 1.5[1] If we are planing to drop the JDK 1.5.0 support after Camel 2.6.0, it's time to do it. [1]https://hudson.apache.org/hudson/view/A-F/view/Camel/job/Camel.trunk.fulltest/

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-26 Thread Willem Jiang
On 1/25/11 12:05 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Mark Ford wrote: I would like to see a branch of camel 2.6.x that was kept up to date with major bug fixes since I have some projects that are stuck on 1.5. As for JUnit, I don't see what needs to be done since it's backw

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Christian Schneider
+1 for doing the branch. As for the tests I think a good practice would be to move them gradually. So whenever you touch a test you convert it. Of course we could also simply leave them as they are. Christian Am 24.01.2011 16:59, schrieb Mark Ford: I would like to see a branch of camel 2.6

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Mark Ford wrote: > I would like to see a branch of camel 2.6.x that was kept up to date > with major bug fixes since I have some projects that are stuck on 1.5. > > As for JUnit, I don't see what needs to be done since it's backwards > compatible, right? The annota

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Mark Ford
I would like to see a branch of camel 2.6.x that was kept up to date with major bug fixes since I have some projects that are stuck on 1.5. As for JUnit, I don't see what needs to be done since it's backwards compatible, right? The annotations are much cleaner but I don't see a pressing need to mi

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Christian Müller
+1 I also like all the ideas. Let's open the tickets, if not yet done... I would like to work on the "lowest hanging fruits" or as Claus sayes , the "bit of hard work" ;-) - upgrading to JUnit 4. I suggest to use JUnit 4.7 because this is the version the Spring guys using currently. Christian

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > Agree. > > I would also drop support for junit 3. > +1 Good idea lets add that. I think camel-core currently uses JUnit 3 for testing. Its approx 3300 unit tests to be migrated to @Test :) And there is about 700 tests in camel-spring Spr

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Agree. I would also drop support for junit 3. As soon as we vote the 2.6.0 release we can start the upgrades. If we decide to keep supporting 2.6.x, we'll create a branch off the tag when needed. Hadrian On Jan 24, 2011, at 10:01 AM, James Strachan wrote: > +1. > > I'd also like us to make

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Claus Ibsen
erformance http://www.slf4j.org/faq.html#logging_performance > Christian > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Claus Ibsen [mailto:claus.ib...@gmail.com] > Gesendet: Montag, 24. Januar 2011 15:49 > An: dev@camel.apache.org > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for j

AW: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Christian Schneider
@camel.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards In light of this I would like to propose the idea of moving some of the todo's from the Camel 3.0 roadmap into Camel 2.7, specifically: - switching to slf4j as logger - upgrading to jdk 1.6 as mi

AW: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Christian Schneider
+1 For dropping java 1.5 Christian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Hadrian Zbarcea [mailto:hzbar...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Montag, 24. Januar 2011 15:30 An: dev@camel.apache.org Betreff: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards Hi, Camel-2.6.0 is being build while

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread James Strachan
+1. I'd also like us to make this dependency upgrade ASAP; then we can work on the longer term changes to Camel at a slower pace & not be faced with dual-patching pain (back porting to slf4j and commons-logging in parallel etc). On 24 January 2011 14:49, Claus Ibsen wrote: > Hi > > > > On Mon, J

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > Hi, > > Camel-2.6.0 is being build while I write this. One of the things that was > informally discussed and I am formally proposing now is dropping support for > java 1.5 starting with the next release. It hasn't been supported for a whi

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > Hi, > > Camel-2.6.0 is being build while I write this. One of the things that was > informally discussed and I am formally proposing now is dropping support for > java 1.5 starting with the next release. It hasn't been supported for

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
+1 to drop support for java 1.5. FYI, if Apache Karaf 2.2.x supports Java 1.5, Apache Karaf 3.x will drop the Java 1.5 also. Regards JB On 01/24/2011 03:29 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: Hi, Camel-2.6.0 is being build while I write this. One of the things that was informally discussed and I am

[DISCUSS] Dropping support for java 1.5 from camel-2.7.0 onwards

2011-01-24 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Hi, Camel-2.6.0 is being build while I write this. One of the things that was informally discussed and I am formally proposing now is dropping support for java 1.5 starting with the next release. It hasn't been supported for a while and the survey showed almost no interest in it. If needed (wh