Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-12-04 Thread Nguyen Anh Tu
Dear all, I updated wiki doc for autoscaling feature. It's just a draft version and need reviewed. Take a look on that. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Autoscale+framework Cheers, --Tuna On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Nguyen Anh Tu wrote: > Yeah, so I should edit th

Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-12-04 Thread Nguyen Anh Tu
Yeah, so I should edit the wiki page. Back to you guys when I finish the draft. Cheers, --Tuna On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Chiradeep Vittal < chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com> wrote: > Agree that we should have at least 1 implemented monitoring plugin. > Before we jump into SNMP etc, I'd like t

Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-12-03 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
Agree that we should have at least 1 implemented monitoring plugin. Before we jump into SNMP etc, I'd like to see the public interfaces of the monitoring and AS services. In the figure I had sketched out, I'd like to see the specifications of all the APIs. We can then enumerate the autoscaling wor

Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-12-03 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Nguyen Anh Tu wrote: > + what SNMP software we use? I found Net-SNMP but not sure it's okie. Need > to try and review it. There are a lot of oopen source and commercial once out there. We need an open source one. Given that we are probably going to have to do some

Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-12-03 Thread Nguyen Anh Tu
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > I don't think we should try to go beyond the hypervisor extensions on > the vms (unless it's the systemvms) is this what you mean? > > on the systemvm it seems we could indeed. Is that what you mean? > > on the others we should try to collect

Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-12-02 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
Hi Tuna, The way the Netscaler autoscale function works is to assume that the VM already has SNMP agent. If the VM is Linux, it needs to have the net-snmp-util package (usually there in most distro) E.g., as documented here: http://goo.gl/KabIy5 On 11/28/13 2:31 AM, "Nguyen Anh Tu" wrote: >On

Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-11-28 Thread Daan Hoogland
I don't think we should try to go beyond the hypervisor extensions on the vms (unless it's the systemvms) is this what you mean? on the systemvm it seems we could indeed. Is that what you mean? on the others we should try to collect through the hypevisor and not beyond that, would you agree? O

Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-11-28 Thread Nguyen Anh Tu
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > I have some (limited) experience, it seems the fs[1] refered in this > thread is good enough if you need to expose data. How much of this is > being implemented at the moment? > > I suppose you need to design a way for leveraging data from >

Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-11-27 Thread Daan Hoogland
. >> >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com] >> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:07 AM >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > Subject: Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-11-27 Thread Nguyen Anh Tu
ailto:chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:07 AM > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack > > > > Hi Tuna, > > > > I boldly diagrammed out what we talked about here: > &g

RE: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-11-25 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
m: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:07 AM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack > > Hi Tuna, > > I boldly diagrammed out what we talked about here: > > https://cwiki.apache.or

Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-11-25 Thread Nguyen Anh Tu
2013/11/26 Chiradeep Vittal > Hi Tuna, > > I boldly diagrammed out what we talked about here: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/M6YTAg > > The idea is to keep the monitoring part separate from the autoscale > decision. > So, the monitoring can be SNMP/RRD/whatever. > > Scale-up using reco

Re: [Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-11-25 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
Hi Tuna, I boldly diagrammed out what we talked about here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/M6YTAg The idea is to keep the monitoring part separate from the autoscale decision. So, the monitoring can be SNMP/RRD/whatever. Scale-up using reconfiguration then becomes a mere matter of modif

[Discuss] AutoScaling.next in CloudStack

2013-11-25 Thread tuna
Hi guys, At CCCEU13 I talked about the AutoScale without NetScaler feature working with XenServer & XCP. For anyone don’t know about this feature, take a look into my slide here: http://www.slideshare.net/tuna20073882/autoscale-without-netscalerccceu13. Chiradeep and I had a short talk after t