Package Repositories

2015-11-25 Thread John Burwell
All, A conversation emerged on a PR [1] regarding how package repositories should listed on the downloads page [2]. This PR was prompted by a change on the page which removed reference to the ShapeBlue repositories. The PR proposes listing all "3rd-Party Distributions" in a separa

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-25 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 7:52 AM, John Burwell wrote: > All, > ​...​ > In my opinion, favoring one 3rd-party repository over another is > detrimental to the community. ​agree ​ > We should either list all maintained 3rd-party package repositories or > we should list

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-26 Thread sebgoa
On Nov 26, 2015, at 7:52 AM, John Burwell wrote: > All, > > A conversation emerged on a PR [1] regarding how package repositories should > listed on the downloads page [2]. This PR was prompted by a change on the > page which removed reference to the ShapeBlue repositories

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-26 Thread Erik Weber
015, at 7:52 AM, John Burwell > wrote: > > > All, > > > > A conversation emerged on a PR [1] regarding how package repositories > should listed on the downloads page [2]. This PR was prompted by a change > on the page which removed reference to the ShapeBlue repositories

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-26 Thread Daan Hoogland
Erik On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Erik Weber wrote: > Would it be too blunt to propose that we set up a team, composed of any > community members interested, to handle packaging and promote that as 'the > community package'? > > Realistically, as a user, it is not really crucial for me that

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-26 Thread Rohit Yadav
other repos. Regards. On 26-Nov-2015, at 3:17 PM, sebgoa mailto:run...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Nov 26, 2015, at 7:52 AM, John Burwell mailto:john.burw...@shapeblue.com>> wrote: All, A conversation emerged on a PR [1] regarding how package repositories should listed on the downloa

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-26 Thread Remi Bergsma
e: Thursday 26 November 2015 16:32 To: "dev@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org>" mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org>> Subject: Re: Package Repositories Just some points of information from my side; - We (bunch of people at ShapeBlue) took this initiat

RE: Package Repositories

2015-11-26 Thread Suresh Sadhu
+1. I agree with Remi. Regards sadhu -Original Message- From: Remi Bergsma [mailto:rberg...@schubergphilis.com] Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 9:52 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Package Repositories Hi all, I do appreciate any effort to make it easy for users. My

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-26 Thread Nux!
g technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - > From: "Remi Bergsma" > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Sent: Thursday, 26 November, 2015 16:22:00 > Subject: Re: Package Repositories > Hi all, > > I do appreciate any effort to make it easy for users

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-26 Thread Rajani Karuturi
! Reply-To: "dev@cloudstack.apache.org" Date: Thursday, 26 November 2015 at 10:38 PM To: "dev@cloudstack.apache.org" Subject: Re: Package Repositories >+1 what Remi said. > >Jenkins is already building packages and system templates, when we release a >version let

RE: Package Repositories

2015-11-27 Thread Paul Angus
N 4HS -Original Message- From: Rajani Karuturi [mailto:rajani.karut...@citrix.com] Sent: 27 November 2015 05:14 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Package Repositories +1 to what Remi said. One source for packages on a generic domain with everyone in community trying to make i

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-27 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Paul Angus wrote: > So. My understanding is that to make the packages in the repo 'official' > they must be voted on. -- would we make the packages what we vote on, > rather that the source code (bearing in mind you can't separate the > packaging in that case).

RE: Package Repositories

2015-11-27 Thread Paul Angus
peblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: 27 November 2015 09:36 To: dev Subject: Re: Package Repositories On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Paul Angus wrote:

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-27 Thread Daan Hoogland
t; From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 27 November 2015 09:36 > To: dev > Subject: Re: Package Repositories > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Paul Angus > wrote: > > > So. My understanding is that to make the packages in the repo 'offi

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread sebgoa
omatically update a repo from that one. The repo will not be endorsed > but the way it is filled will be. > > my €0,02 of future dreams > > > -Original Message- >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] >> Sent: 27 November 2015 09:36 >&g

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread Nux!
08:59 > Subject: Re: Package Repositories > Hi folks, we need to resolve this. > > 1-But I have to start with one comment: > Apache open office releases binaries, users don't compile from source. So it > is > possible within ASF to officially release binaries. > &

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread Daan Hoogland
- Original Message - > > From: "sebgoa" > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > Sent: Monday, 30 November, 2015 10:08:59 > > Subject: Re: Package Repositories > > > Hi folks, we need to resolve this. > > > > 1-But I have to start with one commen

RE: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread Paul Angus
ve received this email in error. -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 November 2015 10:24 To: dev Subject: Re: Package Repositories +1 all the way, sebastien On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Nux! wrote: > +1 your categories. > >

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread Rohit Yadav
On 30-Nov-2015, at 3:38 PM, sebgoa mailto:run...@gmail.com>> wrote: - source - community repo - 3-rd party repo I am +1 with this, why ? -source is a no brainer - community repo (apt-get) because that's our defacto pkg repo even though we don't vote on packages. There was not vote to say thes

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread sebgoa
On Nov 30, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Rohit Yadav wrote: > >> On 30-Nov-2015, at 3:38 PM, sebgoa wrote: >> >> - source >> - community repo >> - 3-rd party repo >> >> I am +1 with this, why ? >> >> -source is a no brainer >> - community repo (apt-get) because that's our defacto pkg repo even though

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread Rajani Karuturi
n the core+plugins and > > automatically update a repo from that one. The repo will not be endorsed > > but the way it is filled will be. > > > > my €0,02 of future dreams > > > > > > -Original Message- > >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:d

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread Pierre-Luc Dion
ce and the > > packaged > > >> rpms/debs otherwise they we have no official community standing. ? > > >> > > > ​I am not sure how we can give them official standing yet but we are > the > > > apache foundation​, so we vote on source. I would say

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread Wido den Hollander
> >>> -sebastien >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Daan Hoogland >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Paul Angus >> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Doesn

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > > Paul, as far as releases I know, package on cloudstack.apt-get.eu > include > > noredis libraries. > > > > The debs don't I think. I never checked the RPMs. ​Any RPMs I uploaded do. Those are mostly the 4.4 ones (not sure but I thin

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread Nux!
BTW, if these bits are "no redistribute", why are we distributing them? -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - > From: "Daan Hoogland" > To: "dev" > Sent: Monday, 30 November, 2015 15:28:24 &g

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread sebgoa
t; From: "Daan Hoogland" >> To: "dev" >> Sent: Monday, 30 November, 2015 15:28:24 >> Subject: Re: Package Repositories > >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Wido den Hollander wrote: >> >>>> Paul, as far as releases I know,

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread sebgoa
received this email in error. > > > -Original Message----- > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 30 November 2015 10:24 > To: dev > Subject: Re: Package Repositories > > +1 all the way, sebastien > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Nux

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread John Burwell
;> >> +1 all the way, sebastien >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Nux! wrote: >> >>> +1 your categories. >>> >>> Also +1 for the unified thing under cloudstack.apache.org domain. >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from the Delta qua

Re: Package Repositories

2015-11-30 Thread Wido den Hollander
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Re: Package Repositories

2015-12-01 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > > As I mentioned in my initial message, the public ShapeBlue repositories > [1] are noredist builds of release baselines with no additional patches or > changes. My understanding is that the project cannot officially distribute > the no

RE: Package Repositories

2015-12-01 Thread Paul Angus
Sent: 01 December 2015 07:45 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Package Repositories On 11/30/2015 10:14 PM, John Burwell wrote: > Sebastian, > > As I mentioned in my initial message, the public ShapeBlue repositories [1] > are noredist builds of release baselines with no additi

Re: Package Repositories

2015-12-01 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Paul Angus wrote: > My experience has been that the vast majority of users want the noredist > version. If the consensus is that the 'community created' packages should > be/must be OSS (something which I think only harms the project) then the > download links and

Re: Package Repositories

2015-12-01 Thread Rohit Yadav
On 30-Nov-2015, at 10:02 PM, sebgoa mailto:run...@gmail.com>> wrote: 1-source release (official) 2-community repo (non-official) 3-third party (non-official, with single affiliation of people who have access). ** We just need a simple, acceptable naming for the download page for a transitory p

RE: Package Repositories

2015-12-01 Thread Paul Angus
er if you believe you have received this email in error. -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 December 2015 08:55 To: dev Subject: Re: Package Repositories On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Paul Angus wrote: > My experience has been that the v

Re: Package Repositories

2015-12-01 Thread Sebastien Goasguen
> On Dec 1, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > >>> As I mentioned in my initial message, the public ShapeBlue repositories >> [1] are noredist builds of release baselines with no additional patches or >> changes. My understan