Re: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-09 Thread Daan Hoogland
+1 to Darren's 'We should be careful about "no X, no commit"' One exception though; (unit)tests. And I can live with a #!human script like Marty describes. Even though your point is valid, David, developers (like me) have an internal company need for a fix or a feature, and are inclined to work on

Re: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-06 Thread Tracy Phillips
+1 to Marty. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Marty Sweet wrote: > My view is that when a feature is added the developer should give a short > overview of how to use all of the items which have been added, a doc > contributor can then write this up in a user friendly manner which is > similar to

Re: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-05 Thread Marty Sweet
My view is that when a feature is added the developer should give a short overview of how to use all of the items which have been added, a doc contributor can then write this up in a user friendly manner which is similar to the whole style of the rest of the documentation. Example description of d

Re: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-05 Thread Darren Shepherd
On 09/05/2013 07:56 AM, David Nalley wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote: -1 on no docs no submits. Docs are important to people that need a contribution they didn't write themselves. The first ones are the ones to write docs where missing. You contribute because you nee

Re: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-05 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > -1 on no docs no submits. > > Docs are important to people that need a contribution they didn't > write themselves. The first ones are the ones to write docs where > missing. You contribute because you need code, not because you need > docs on

Re: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-05 Thread Daan Hoogland
er 2013 07:14 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Cc: aemne...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: documentation/wiki is a mess > > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 1:11 AM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote: > >> Radhika, what I meant was everyone should help out with docs. Esp. >> those working on a

RE: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-05 Thread Giles Sirett
gt;> If the FS is good enough, we need not trouble the code committers to >>> write own docs is what I feel. >>> >>> Regards >>> -Radhika >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Prasanna Santhanam [mailto:t...@apache.org] >>>

Re: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-04 Thread Sebastien Goasguen
, we need not trouble the code committers to write >>> own docs is what I feel. >>> >>> Regards >>> -Radhika >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Prasanna Santhanam [mailto:t...@apache.org] >>> Sent: Thursday, Septembe

Re: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-04 Thread Prasanna Santhanam
age- > > From: Prasanna Santhanam [mailto:t...@apache.org] > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:34 AM > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > Subject: Re: documentation/wiki is a mess > > > > On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 11:10:28AM -0700, Darren Shepherd wrote: >

RE: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-04 Thread Radhika Puthiyetath
Please give us some examples .. -Original Message- From: Ahmad Emneina [mailto:aemne...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 10:22 AM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: documentation/wiki is a mess I think prasanna hit the nail on the head. I'm sure there are fea

Re: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-04 Thread Ahmad Emneina
ble the code committers to write > own docs is what I feel. > > Regards > -Radhika > > -Original Message- > From: Prasanna Santhanam [mailto:t...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:34 AM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: documentation

RE: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-04 Thread Radhika Puthiyetath
write own docs is what I feel. Regards -Radhika -Original Message- From: Prasanna Santhanam [mailto:t...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:34 AM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: documentation/wiki is a mess On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 11:10:28AM -0700, Darren Shepherd

Re: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-04 Thread Prasanna Santhanam
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 11:10:28AM -0700, Darren Shepherd wrote: > > The state of documentation of an open source projects says a lot > about the community that develops it... > Esp. for XML documentation: I say we write our own docs if we want our feature to be used. Or it dies a natural death

RE: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-03 Thread Soheil Eizadi
/CLOUDSTACK/How+to+build+CloudStack http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html From: Chiradeep Vittal [chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 11:33 AM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: documentation/wiki is a mess The

Re: documentation/wiki is a mess

2013-09-03 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
The wiki is also for users as content gets added between releases as well. But the developer content can certainly be reorganized. On 9/3/13 11:10 AM, "Darren Shepherd" wrote: >The state of documentation and especially the wiki is a mess. I'd like >to help clean this up, but I can't seem to r